nomination and discussion thread for possible top 100 electronic dance tracks of the 00s

i like how it went from hugest scope ever in dance music to a relatively dinky scope in dance music

errr house is house and ukg is ukg. and I don't think there's any doubt whether dnb and trance count as house/techno. I mean, really?

sorry, I mean 10 votes per person. about the candidates, do we really have to set it? why don't we just make it free to pick from all house/techno tracks available?

guess what i'm getting at is that if we really want to be inclusive and comprehensive limiting noms seems counterproductive

we want people to think hard about their votes, this preliminary stage should be like "oh yeah what about THAT killer track?!?" not like "oh shit maybe i should hold off on my noms in case i forgot some track or other" or "damn i forgot crazy frog will someone nominate it for me"

i think the best (and most common) voting method is giving a set number of points (50?) to distribute among tracks as you see fit

but yeah i dunno the scope question is a tough one and i'd like to let people like tim and lex who have been very active on dance threads and who often advocate for things like ukg to weigh in on it too

and then there's the question of FRANKENDANCE

well i will nominate these big dumb obvious choices:

the mfa - the difference it makes (superpitcher remix)
delia gonzalez and gavin russom - relevee (carl craig remix)
ada - i love asphalt
cortney tidwell - don't let stars keep us tangled up (ewan pearson remix)
vitalic - la rock 01
hystereo - winters in the city
antena - camino del sol (joakim remix)
jurgen paape - so weit wie noch nie
alan braxe and fred falke - rubicon
kiki - gas 126

why i was asking about remixes, btw

seems a little weird to have a "best dance tracks poll" and NOT have remixes imo. unless you were talking about what would happen if multiple versions of a track get nominated?

no, i was just wondering if i would nom, say, that Jaques Lu Cont remix of "Mr. Brightside".

really worried about people being sniffy.

let them sniff, imo

remixes are fine

different remixes are different tracks on a record so they are separate in terms of both nomination and vote

I don't really get what you mean about nominations and candidates but I'm flexible about it, really. It's the scope that I'm concerned about. I just think that there are countless "top dance tracks" lists already and do we really want to see one more? With only house and techno it just feels more focused and "purer."

The points idea sounds good.

I think the problem with "let's keep it house and techno" is that while it may seem obvious to some that drum & bass or UKG aren't applicable, I don't think the position of uk funky or post-dubstep or electro-house are nearly so clear cut, but I get the impression from durr durr durr that he'd want all of these excluded.

And then, if uk funky is excluded, should we also exclude Dennis Ferrer? And if we have a different position, what's the basis?

This comes down to 'what does durr durr durr (or anyone else) really want out of this poll' - I don't think 'house/techno' is a particularly clear answer.

Alter Ego - Rocker
Luomo - Tessio

criteria should be 'bangin' tunes you tear up the dancefloor to'

^^agree with this

And then, if uk funky is excluded, should we also exclude Dennis Ferrer?

...wut

anyway this makes a lot more sense now that i see the orig request for a nomination thread came from the house/techno bobbins thread

why would we exclude garage or etc? that shit doesn't even make sense to me.

yes, tim. I want uk funky and post-dubstep excluded, as much as I like both. but I think electrohouse (booka shade, etc) belongs in this poll. as well as Dennis Ferrer. I mean, he's as house as house can be in my ears.

anyway this makes a lot more sense now that i see the orig request for a nomination thread came from the house/techno bobbins thread

― fauxmarc, Thursday, April 19, 2012 4:59 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes, that can be a good parameter. anything that belongs in the house/techno bobbins threads, belongs here. there, I think we have our scope. what do you think, late great?

we can have a "dance partisans" poll later, ha.

i could mostly give less of a fuck about the bobbins thread :/

i don't see the point in having seperate polls tho

i mean, i think v's original formulation is pretty straightforward

Books Shade - Night Falls

Booka (stupid auto-correct)

i don't see the point in having seperate polls tho

― hologram ned raggett (The Reverend), Thursday, April 19, 2012 5:07 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

but i want to see what are the top PURE house/techno tracks according to ILM :((((((((((((((((

I fart in your PURE.

Each and Everyone (Blindhouse Mix) - Ada
Always - Midi Rain
Faith (Jazzanova mix) Amp Fiddler
Paris (Aeroplane Mix) Friendly Fires
Perfect Lovers (Unperfect Mix) Phantom Ghost

Fuckpony - Ride The Pony

I fart in your PURE.

― hologram ned raggett (The Reverend), Thursday, April 19, 2012 5:20 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

looollll. ok, what about house/techno and anything closely related? it means no dnb, breaks, dubstep (ouch), etc.

would also mean about 75% of trax already nommed would be out

What Else Is There (Trentemøller Mix) Röyksopp

Matias Aguayo -Minimal (Dj Koze Remix)

I don't really get why you would exclude UK Funky and include Ferrer.

In that case it's as logical to say "no techno not from detroit".

Not that I really care but i think if you're gonna be restrictive then you should have a think about what the biases really are.

if this is really about "middle class refined house and techno only please" then say so.

more like 75% of the trax already nommed are fitting enough. 85%, even.

xpost

i like the idea of an all encompassing electronic dance music poll of the 00s

Audion - Mouth to Mouth
Matthew Jonson - Marionette

I'd just say to hell with it and let the voters decide which tracks are house/techno related and which are not. We're cool enough to do that, right? About Dennis Ferrer, I don't understand what's the deal. Yes, maybe his tracks get played by uk funky dj's but his tracks are house, no doubt about it.

i'm also still trying to grasp this tying of ferrer to funky rather than mainstream house archetypes and it isn't happening at all

Shackleton - Blood On My Hands (Ricardo Villalobos Remix)

I think it's best to have a wide range of noms, and people can decide for themselves what they consider to fit under the umbrella. If only because I think this Dennis Ferrer/UK Funky v House thing would be just the tip of the iceberg.

also I'm well excited for this. thanks lg!

and what kind of umbrella is it?

Well the umbrella would presumably be "electronic dance tracks of the 00s"

also is this 2000-2009?

if that's the umbrella then I don't see any debate about what fits and what doesn't.

let's make it 2000-now.

exactly

I think it's best to have a wide range of noms, and people can decide for themselves what they consider to fit under the umbrella. If only because I think this Dennis Ferrer/UK Funky v House thing would be just the tip of the iceberg.

yeah I was just citing it as an example.

But if you can't see why saying "The Cure & The Cause" is in but "Do You Mind" is out is thoroughly inconsistent then you do not have ears.

hystereo - gonna love you
supra 1 - still believe ( phantom remix )
caro - my little castle

kerrier district (luke vibert) - dick
mariah carey - h.a.t.e.u. (chew fu stop hatin' mix)

Not particularly fashionable atm but:

Justice - Waters Of Nazareth

connan mockasin - forever dolphin love (erol alkan extended rework) http://youtu.be/pVu5BXppxyg

Metro Area - Orange Alert (DFA Remix)
Pet Shop Boys - Minimal (Tocadisco's Sunday at Space Mix)

two that *might* be up for debate:

Phoenix - Lisztomania (Classixx Version)
Justice - D.A.N.C.E. (Alan Braxxe Remix)

Calling late great to proceed with this poll

Some of these nominations are a bit on the poppy side, and I'm dubious that any nominations at this late date will gather any consensus, but only about half of my favorites were already covered above:

Kylie Minogue - Slow (Chemical Brothers remix)
Blondie - Heart of Glass (Jesse Garcia Electric Spain remix)
Offer Nissim - Perfect Love
Rihanna - Don't Stop the Music (Jody Den Broeder Big Room mix)
Missill - Glitch (feat. Jahcoozi)
ATFC feat. Rae - Giv Me Luv (Ocean Trench Mix)
The Amplifetes - Somebody New (Claes Rosen Vocal remix)
Count Funkula - Corruption
StoneBridge - Put 'Em High (JJ 12" mix)
DJ Sneak - Fix My Sink
Sylvie Marks & Hal 9000 - Baby I'm Electric
Mylo - Drop the Pressure (Rex the Dog mix)
Trentemøller - Rykketid
Classixx - I'll Get You feat. Jepp
Jeremy Glenn - New Life (Perseus 'Summer of 83' remix)
Pablo Calamari - I Bought My Wife on the Black Market (Dcup mix)
Body Language - Social Studies (Plastic Plates remix)

poll closes at the stroke of midnight GMT on may 2 2012

wait, our votes have to be in by then?

nominations for the poll I mean

phew. reassessing some of these tracks takes longer when they're all 9 minutes.

some big tunes before this closes:

depeche mode - enjoy the silence (ewan pearson remix)
Minimal Man - Make a Move
Carl Craig - Sandstorms
Kings of Tomorrow - Finally
St Germain - Rose Rouge
Funk D'Void - Diabla
Moodymann - J.A.N.
Pépé Bradock - Life

Hold on, you're complaining about other people's choices not being electronic enough, and you're nominating "Rose Rouge"? (Not that I've anything against it, brilliant tune!)

But but, isn't it jazzy/deep house? I've never complained about some tracks being "not electronic enough" anyway. Maybe you mean not EDM enough.

i was thinking of nom'ing sandstorms, life and JAN the other day, but got sidetracked, so thx

Henrik Schwarz - Stop Look And Listen
Rhythm And Sound - Poor People Must Work (Carl Craig Remix)
Martyn - Seventy Four (Redshape Mix)
Panda Bear - Bros
The Field - Kappsta
Pantha Du Prince – Eisbaden

i like how you try to sneak panda bear in behind a few excellent choices

progress? anything? late great

wait until the weekend

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GR8jOJZERhs

cool :)

Thanks NickB for building up that spotify playlist

Erm.... just a link here for anyone else (like me) who wasn't aware of the new thread:
review of nominations and VOTING for (very nebulously defined) ELECTRONIC DANCE TRACKS of the 00s

thank you NBS