Dudes, look at the date of that post.
― beachville, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 13:55 (fourteen years ago)
Do they celebrate April Fool's Day in Canada?
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 13:58 (fourteen years ago)
Christmas, Easter, Halloween--we're all over that stuff.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 14:48 (fourteen years ago)
Ah, the Neil & Phish "Down By The River" is indeed still on YouTube, now from several sources, several lengths--and this one even includes an "Arc' jam. Whole thing's from Farm Aid '98:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoMSBkEQboQ
― dow, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 14:59 (fourteen years ago)
haha oh god i remember watching that down by the river with Phish, they are just such a terrible rock band i almost feel bad for them
― Mississippi Butt Hurt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 15:16 (fourteen years ago)
yeahhh. there's also this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQfpaZGKhVk
― tylerw, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 15:19 (fourteen years ago)
haha the girls on acid are getting emotional in that vid
― Mississippi Butt Hurt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 15:22 (fourteen years ago)
it was an important day in the 90s
― tylerw, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 15:22 (fourteen years ago)
neil really should have changed the lyrics at least once to "forever meeeeeeee, forever meeeeee!"
― tylerw, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 15:25 (fourteen years ago)
the arc jam w/phish has it's moments so far...too bad phish's drummer is such a fucking china crash piddler stop it dude god was that woodblocks u turd?
― Mississippi Butt Hurt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 15:26 (fourteen years ago)
tyler do you know a lot about the dead? i'm no expert or anything but i like them...but were they a pretty pathetic operation towards the end? that vid is pretty terrible
― Mississippi Butt Hurt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 15:27 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, never liked that one, Re Phish, Hang in there for "River" (disclaimer: never seen the "Arc" part before)
― dow, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 15:29 (fourteen years ago)
re: the dead, i think they had their ups 'n' downs towards the end there. that performance is definitely terrible, but it may have been literally unrehearsed.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 15:31 (fourteen years ago)
but back to neil young, y'all see this? www.themidnightcafe.org/?p=3639
― tylerw, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 15:32 (fourteen years ago)
Some of this stuff works better w YTC, YouTube Converter. The free version from cnet just converts to mp3, paid might do more--anyway, sometimes seems better when you don't have to see it, for some reason (I get tired of highlighted beardos livin' the dream)
― dow, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 15:35 (fourteen years ago)
i might try that, i find phish pretty grating just to look at so it could be poisoning the well of sweet exploratory jams
― Mississippi Butt Hurt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 16:11 (fourteen years ago)
cool link tyler! that was one of my big disappointments on Archives 1, having no mynah birds...but maybe it was a problem with licensing and motown I guess...still that was kinda the band that i'd heard the most about and with the bruce palmer/rick james tie-in i think most fans were most curious about
― Mississippi Butt Hurt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 16:14 (fourteen years ago)
yeah it is pretty cool stuff -- some of it sounds kinda Love-ish, though that was probably a coincidence, I don't think Love even had records out when the Mynah Birds were recording (could be wrong, not sure about the dates).
― tylerw, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 16:17 (fourteen years ago)
yeah i think that would have been pretty early for a love influence...seemed like randy bachman was neil's main influence at that time based on shakey
― Mississippi Butt Hurt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 16:18 (fourteen years ago)
it is a pretty weird chapter in Neil's career -- you'd have to think that everyone in the Mynah Birds was like -- "Motown! We've made it!" And then, nothing.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 16:23 (fourteen years ago)
too bad the deal fell through, because both The Fall and Neil Young being Motown artists would be the best lol thing ever
― Mississippi Butt Hurt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 16:36 (fourteen years ago)
yeah, James Jamerson joins Crazy Horse! Hex Induction hour, produced by Quincy Jones!
― tylerw, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 16:38 (fourteen years ago)
I think Love did have some stuff out by them, but Mick Jagger was once asked about some songs like "Who's Been Sleeping Here?" having a Dylan influence, and he said it was more a matter of vocalists and songwriters the same age group, same sort of background and influences sounding like each other in some ways. I thought BS at the time, but later seemed more likely--especially back then, when the market and pool of records were smaller, plus the rise of To 40 and the border and other super AM stations in North America (could get those all over the place at night, way before rock FM), and the few legal stations in the UK, few pirate, for that matter. Didn't realize Bruce Palmer was in the Mynah Birds!
― dow, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 16:47 (fourteen years ago)
"stuff out by *then*"
― dow, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 16:48 (fourteen years ago)
yeah, I think this is the clip I saw before, minus "Arc," which might be trickier, being more freeform than "River"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YK_XPZ_Xhg
― dow, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:01 (fourteen years ago)
oh susannah - http://soundcloud.com/oldmanemu/oh-susannah-web-previewcan't really crank this since it's the kid's naptime (lol dadrock). but it sounds nice and loose.
― tylerw, Saturday, 21 April 2012 21:06 (fourteen years ago)
Sounds good! Vibe reminds me of Farmer John...choir isn't nearly as over the top as living with war
― l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 21 April 2012 21:21 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, the choir is unobtrusive, and everything else is nice and loud.
― Waterloo? Oh, we've sunsetted that. (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 21 April 2012 21:41 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, this is basically exactly like I expected it to sound. I never had any doubts.
― fruitsbs (beachville), Saturday, 21 April 2012 23:12 (fourteen years ago)
video for oh susannah! i like this songhttp://youtu.be/ei2PVpSKkF4
― tylerw, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:47 (fourteen years ago)
haha smoking toddlers!
― l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:52 (fourteen years ago)
new display name testing 1 2 3
― Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:53 (fourteen years ago)
i'm glad we live in a country where stoned old men butchering children's folk songs with electric guitars can be released on a major label
― l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:57 (fourteen years ago)
^^^
Neil's career is really amazing
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:58 (fourteen years ago)
the first 20 seconds are the best because it's like jesus guys you didn't even bother to learn the song did you?
― l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:58 (fourteen years ago)
i guess Bruce and his band don't smoke up, huh
― Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:00 (fourteen years ago)
i thought springsteen claims to have never smoked pot
either way bruce is sooo not a stoner
― l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:02 (fourteen years ago)
his stimulant of choice is diet coke iirc
― tylerw, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:02 (fourteen years ago)
i wasn't implying he WAS. just saying that you're maybe overstating the craziness of a classic rock icon releasing a major label album of folk covers when an album like that hit #3 on Billboard a few years ago.
― Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:05 (fourteen years ago)
will the secretary treasurer please record some dude's reservations in the notes of our meeting?
― l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:44 (fourteen years ago)
neil young, always riding the boss's coattails
― tylerw, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:50 (fourteen years ago)
lol sorry neil stans, continue geeking out
― Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:50 (fourteen years ago)
tbh there's no point in being a neil young fan if you're not going to be a total stan/dork about it.
― l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:54 (fourteen years ago)
we've already established that neil conceptualized this album sometime in 1964 after eating several cheeseburgers at a Toronto diner.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:55 (fourteen years ago)
Love this "Oh Susanna" as fuzzed out "Venus" or whatever, but I always wonder why Neil bothers calling them covers when all he needs to do is toss on a few new lyrics to make them his songs. I mean, they're in the public domain, anyway. I thought the same thing when Peter Gabriel did those radically rearranged covers a couple of years back. Just change the lyrics and call them new songs, dude.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 18:08 (fourteen years ago)
think there's a publishing/legality rationale behind that iirc
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 18:24 (fourteen years ago)
i think it's mostly the artist doing what they want to do -- neil can write songs anytime he wants, but he wanted to do folk covers, he's not going to sweat how the label credits it or who gets royalties enough to change how he makes the record.
― Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 18:25 (fourteen years ago)
i keep forgetting to transcribe that section of Shakey but basically in that book it sounds like Neil's had these arrangement/reworkings since the early 60s and is just getting to them now
― l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 18:38 (fourteen years ago)
oh susanna sounds great. love neil's studio chatter at the end. it's funky!
― mizzell, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 18:53 (fourteen years ago)
What I mean is, Neil - or anyone - can skronk out songs like his "Oh Susannah" at will. So why not?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 19:03 (fourteen years ago)
er one of the new york shows I mean. one at MSG and one at the new Barclays Center in BK.
― dmr, Monday, 13 August 2012 21:29 (thirteen years ago)
BNL wrote no one's favourite Canadian songs when we've so much else to choose from ;)
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Monday, 13 August 2012 21:55 (thirteen years ago)
might be seeing one of the NY shows so I'm still debating whether to hear these previews or let new Neil hit me live in person the way he'd like it.
― da croupier, Monday, 13 August 2012 21:59 (thirteen years ago)
I don't think I'll listen to the bootlegs but before I would consider getting tix I had to see that the setlists weren't 90% Americana ...
― dmr, Monday, 13 August 2012 22:11 (thirteen years ago)
You know, dumb question, but I've always wondered why "Hey Hey My My" namechecks Johnny Rotten and not Sid Vicious, when the latter (rhyme scheme aside) makes more thematic sense. Johnny Rotten never burned out or faded away, and I sometimes wonder if Neil realized he got the wrong guy and just thought, hey, it's a great song so fuck it.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 13 August 2012 23:18 (thirteen years ago)
if wiki is correct sid hadn't died yet when the album was recorded
plus i get the sense neil didn't even *know* that much about the pistols, he just felt something in the wind and wrote about it
― Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 13 August 2012 23:34 (thirteen years ago)
Yeah, isn't the track about Elvis, really?
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 13 August 2012 23:42 (thirteen years ago)
So it sounds like Ralph Molina is using Hot Rods exclusively, instead of sticks. Don't really see it as an aesthetic choice...maybe he's protecting his hearing?
― Choogle Image Search (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 14 August 2012 22:57 (thirteen years ago)
new album according to sampedro, will be called "Psychedelic Pill"http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/inside-neil-young-and-crazy-horses-new-album-and-tour-20120814
― tylerw, Wednesday, 15 August 2012 04:03 (thirteen years ago)
Don't really see it as an aesthetic choice...maybe he's protecting his hearing?
Too little, too late, dude. You're in Crazy Horse!
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 15 August 2012 11:35 (thirteen years ago)
i'm so in love with the 2nd night of the colorado bootlegs
― Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 15 August 2012 19:51 (thirteen years ago)
someone just sent me a 35 minute mix of all the feedback jams at the end of Walk Like A Giant entitled Arc 2012. Noise album of the year?
― tylerw, Wednesday, 15 August 2012 19:57 (thirteen years ago)
Without a doubt. The "Giant" jams make Fushitsusha sound like the Magnetic Fields.
― Choogle Image Search (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 15 August 2012 20:11 (thirteen years ago)
Let me be the upmteenth person to note that the noise-jam ending of "Walk Like a Giant" is completely awesome.
― chr1sb3singer, Thursday, 16 August 2012 19:56 (thirteen years ago)
kind of sounds like they're slaughtering a whale
― tylerw, Thursday, 16 August 2012 19:58 (thirteen years ago)
Dude, which "Walk Like A Giant" has this slaughtered whale moment, wanna listen! I guess I will listen to all of it, glowing recs, but I don't think the version I listened to reached quite those heights.
― grandavis, Thursday, 16 August 2012 20:50 (thirteen years ago)
Well, there's a hair of hyperbole at work here. We're not really talking Fushitsusha (I hope). It sounds more like, dunno, Masaki Batoh. Or Neil Young.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 16 August 2012 21:29 (thirteen years ago)
ok judge for yourself -- here's Arc 2012: http://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com/post/29629148690/arc-2012-for-nearly-two-decades-now-fans-have
― tylerw, Friday, 17 August 2012 17:15 (thirteen years ago)
Brilliant. Thanks for posting that!
― Choogle Image Search (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 17 August 2012 22:04 (thirteen years ago)
I should admit that I've totally come around to "Americana" and now sort of view it as the closest we're going to come to a whole album of stuff like the "Farmer John" cover. As major an album as minor albums get.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 18 August 2012 20:50 (thirteen years ago)