Electronic Artist You'd Most Like To Put In Your... Y'Know

just doing the Lord's work here

It must be so fucking awful and terrible to be a str8 dude and be constantly afraid of one's own body's latent eroticism for fear of being perceived as gay.

But you know, I'm sure the whole "ruling the world" thing kinda makes up for it. LOL.

But, just every now and then, when there is a dude who seems comfortable enough - and it's usually not the "stereotypically handsome" dudes, it's weird looking dudes like TY and Kevin from of Montreal - to do that whole "look at me! just fucken LOOK at me" joy of being gazed at thing.

And then that's really refreshing, in an odd way.

Wait, aren't e.g. boy bands full of guys like that?

Full of guys who have been carefully choreographed to behave like that.

Not that the two things are mutually exclusive but, y'know...

Argh, sorry for kicking this off again. I guess another question is, Moka, do you actually fancy those women? Because I read this thread as for posting electronic artists you actually fancy, rather than posting half-naked DJs because they're 'supposed' to be sexy.

― emil.y

You mean dj andrea and dj carla? Definitely not. I even find them gross. In retrospective it was idiotic of me to even post them here in the first place. First because I don't really find them sexy and second because they're house djs and it's apples and oranges as I stated upthread. They do well and they do well by sexploitation, not by their actual mixing abilities. With those two I completely agree with everyone, they're being used as objects, but at the same time I don't want to think it's exclusively sexism because you see half-naked men djs in that scene too.

The rest of the girls I posted I think are genuinely sexy, even Miss Nine.

I do have to admit that part of my irritation on this thread is kind of... argh, men colonising space intended for women. (Thought obviously that doesn't apply since Lex is one of the biggest posters of hott boys and Moka is one of the biggest posters of semi naked ladies?)

I do feel caution and I want to call out mine own heteronormativity in being disturbed by the highly gendered (and sometimes sexualised) presentation of the women. I mean, it's not like there aren't female electronic musicians that I *would* actually like to put (in the orifice of my choice.) But it's just that the qualities of my attractions to women are so different to the quality of my attractions to men.

1) what did you expect would happen on this thread

2) why is leching on ginger beards superior to leching on boobs out

3) are you seriously arguing that you have better reasons for fancying people than other people on this board do? why don't you go police the WS thread then?

4) in the future, you should start threads like this w/ "this space is intended for women and gay men, straight men please don't colonise"

But, you know, I just want less dudes talking about women's bodies and sexualities on this thread because you guys have the rest of the internet for doing that, and there are very few places that women and gay men get to discuss men's looks and sexuality in the same way without being punished or penalised for it, so can we just go back to enjoying what we were enjoying?

5) this is ridiculous

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-gA7t63XypO8/TsQnXl0eeuI/AAAAAAAAAzg/EqCcILnMpMU/s1600/people-magazine-nov-28-2011-bradley-cooper-is-the-sexiest-man-alive.jpg

^^ IIRC they only talk about their skills and talents in this issue

1) Well, it was a birthday present for indulging herself in, so possibly she thought people might stay with the spirit of the thread? I know, I know, it's the internet, but still, one can but hope.

2) Because it doesn't reinforce the normative gender paradigm? (If one wanted to go the more prudish route, one could also say: because a ginger beard isn't a sexual characteristic, but I prefer the other answer)

3) This was never said.

4) Could be useful, though personally I dislike that balkanisation. Plus a bunch of straight dudes on here *have* taken it in the spirit it was intended.

5) Not ridiculous, actually true.

emil.y so OTM the money is getting a serious ladyboner.

nah emily is wrong

1) haha what is this totally benign "spirit of the thread" that suddenly got gross and awful once a few bikini pics showed up

2) i would argue that the real normative gender paradigm is that the other gender exists primarily for leching on and that this thread is playing into that whether we're leching on ginger beards or swimsuits

3) o rly go back and read the thread because i am pretty sure that i read some threads where ksc goes "oh yeah, i only like these men primarily / first for their artistic accomplishments, not for the sexiness, unlike gross people"

four) "this space is intended for women and gay men, straight men please don't post bikini pics"

5) we're going to have to disagree on this, i'll try to keep my eye out for women getting punished for discussing men, i mean i know you guys live in england but i didn't realize you lived in victorian england

i said threads, i meant posts

seems to me that there are lots of dudes in rock that make erotic objects of their bodies. iggy pop, alice cooper, mick jagger, robert plant, jim morrison, chris cornell, david lee roth, prince, the red hot chili peppers ("give it away" video), lenny kravitz, etc.

i would say that the explicitly sexualized, male version of "that whole 'look at me! just fucken LOOK at me' joy of being gazed at thing" is an essential component of rock's identity. to say nothing of R&B artists like d'angelo and usher.

offered not as a rebuttal to anything, but as a complement to other ways in which bodies are flaunted or negated in pop.

4) she did start a Radiohead thread by basically saying don't post here if you're not gonna do so in the spirit the thread is intended in, and it did kind of work to an extent

5) but if this isn't the place for the kind of discussion you want then maybe you should look elsewhere, the internet is a big place after all and there's room for everyone. saying "you have the rest of the internet for that kind of conversation" is like saying we're living in a house with only like three rooms or something

SO suppose i posted a pic of a female electronic artist whose music i have a longstanding engagement and appreciation for (say, andrea parker) but who generally people probably wouldn't lech on in a heteronormative way (again andrea parker fits the bill, i never found her attractive) and then wrote something about what a gigantic boner her collection of analog synths gives me

please explain why i would get a sexism pass for sexualizing someone based on something non-sexual, and yet if i were to just post SEXAY PHOTOES i would not get the sexism pass

1) "It's my birthday; pick who should blow out the candles on my cake..."

2) While I agree somewhat that creating an equality of removing autonomy in favour of objectification is not ideal, you are being incredibly disingenuous if you're really trying to claim that there is no difference here.

3) Ha, okay, that's pretty much the opposite of anything MB said.

4) Yeah, okay.

5) Again, disingenuous, punishment doesn't come in the form of being put in the stocks and you know nobody was ever claiming that.

there's something distressingly hostile about your tone here, the late great. the internet (and ILX not to put to fine a point on it) is wall-to-wall with designated spaces for str8 guys to see "hot" women flaunting what they got. less so when the genders are switched. given a) the boy girl disparity on ILX and b) the complexities of gender relations in general, it's not at all unreasonable for someone to want to create a designated "safe" space for leching on electro boys. i don't see why this would be objectionable to anyone.

I was pretty o_O at the first few female electronic artists that got posted to this thread, because idk I do think they're pretty but I feel uncomfortable just being like "yo check out this hott chick wearing headphones, high five bros" & I feel like it's clearly more in the original spirit of this thread to focus on ppl who are beautiful in a cool or quirky way and are clearly invested in music than just a bunch of folks who meet some boring accepted physical norm

i think xosar and nina kraviz are pretty firmly in the "cleary invested in music" camp

In a way that, when most people see Thom Yorke doing sexy dancing, they think he's just sexy dancing because he's ~feeling it~ in the song, and that doesn't reduce Thom to solely being his looks and his sexuality, or that we, as viewers, are entitled to his physical being. The expectations are different, and that's the ugly thing. But also, that a man being sexy is just adding another layer to him as a human being, while, if a woman gets sexy, it seems like it utterly subsumes everything else they're ~allowed~ to be.

this is the #3

That if I'm attracted to a woman, it's because she's SO AMAZING that she's triggered a state of sexual superfluidity in me. And the amazingness of her has little to do with what she looks like, it's about who she is, what she's like, and all of the individual things that make her so amazing. It's not like, "see nose, see hair, see cheekbones, WANT" like it is with men.

more #3

i think xosar and nina kraviz are pretty firmly in the "cleary invested in music" camp

yeah but that doesn't mean people have to post this kinda bullshit on this thread

http://www.junodownload.com/plus/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/JPP30_art.jpg

Thanks for being the entitled dude pissing on my chips, and ruining my birthday party thread, Late Great.

This is a perfect example of a dude who just cannot HELP himself, colonising space intended for females.

Stop putting words in my mouth, stop wilfully missing the point of everything that has been discussed - so far quite reasonably and politely! - and just go away.

late great, how on earth do you transpose those into "the way I feel attraction is better than the way you feel attraction, eurgh, you grosslings"? The former is a reasonably accurate look at the socialisation of sexuality, the latter is a personal exploration of how one person feels attraction.

basically, everyone just chill out, post pics of people you wanna bone and then we can either smirk at your choice or agree with it. simple, surely.

fair enough, i have no real take on this ~issue~, i just kind of look on in awe as the fucks begin to cluster

xpost to crut

i can help myself. in fact i am going to help myself by *flouncing off*

meanwhile pls enjoy yr designated time of leching on male electronic artists w/ non-standard body types (oh wait they're all tall and skinny) and non-classically-attractive faces, i'm sure it is really helping to fight negative gender dynamics

THREAD NEEDS MORE LINDSTROM

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well she's certainly not being a complete regressive moron itt like some of us

I'm sure that Thom Yorke will be DELIGHTED to learn that he's tall now.

Dr O'Brien's treatments worked wonders, he grew a foot overnight.

If only he could grow Jonny a new thumb!

worst cheesecake ever

No, that actually happened.

Dr O'Brien (Ed's father) treating Thom to make him grow, that was a real thing. In the actual world, not a cheesecake.

(He only grew an inch, though.)

((Why do I *know* these things?))

voted aphex twin in my vagina

this thread was always going to end this way, regardless of any variables that happened in between.

(He only grew an inch, though.)

This is a self-indulgent birthday thread*, which imo is way less odious than the fact that ILX has one to five gigantor rolling threads in site new answers threads devoted to posting nude or nearly nude traditionally hot chicks. And has for many years on end.

*thank god for one day a year of excused self-indulgence; I think I started six polls one year on my birthday

This thread is a good place to admit I have a totally dumb crush on Fletch, electronic/clapping and saying "yeah" artist

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2386/2423625749_154d98456d.jpg?v=0

man hasn't touched a non-computer keyboard since 1983

yes I know <3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLBn1bRnOvc

love the leather scene/incredibly dumb white t-shirt outfit he is rocking here

just dancing away behind that teetiny moog

Does anyone else really, REALLY hate the tone of those "what did you expect?" comments and "did you think this thread was going to end any other way?" comments. You silly woman. You talked about boys you fancy. You mentioned your vagina. You wore a short skirt. You were ASKING FOR IT. You totally DESERVED to get raped/clusterfucked/attract misogyny.

Fuck that attitude in the most un-heteronormative orifice you can find, please.

I have to say - if I had a source of endless naked or nearly-naked photos of dudes who look like Aphex Twin or Thom Yorke, I'd have a rolling thread on site new answers for each of them!

My beef isn't with people fancying who they fancy - my beef is with the way our culture works, in terms of 1) the way female artists vs male artists are packaged and marketed, 2) how male sexual desire is made primary, and female sexual desire is demonised and 3) how unattainable those standards of beauty are, and how these unrealistic standards are used to punish women who cannot conform to them.

The only mild controversy was "Moka, you can not be serious!" to which she replied "actually, you're right, those were silly" and we rolled on happy as ever coz I <3 Moka.

But there's always some guy with a beef who wants to hallucinate things I did not say into an argument. I mean, how - HOW - do you get from my describing the differences in kind between my str8 attractions and my lesbian attractions - how do you get from that to "my lust is better than your lust."

I'm just gonna take the fact that my dumb parody birthday thread is still rolling two days later as, I dunno, evidence of the fact that birthdays are cool and most people on this thread are happy to celebrate with me in the spirit it was intended.

x-posts, Abbs, I approve, but I cannot join you, because incest is RONG.

Now we wanted some HOTT ELECTRO BOYS so here is Erol Alkan to prove that I don't discriminate against hott boys whose beards aren't ginger.

http://www.mpiii.com/images/artists/e/erolalkan.jpg

http://factmag-images.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/legowelt-slide.jpg

wd join the Legowelt movie and book club (may not speak enough Dutch however)

MB what is your relation to Fletch????