this is very tony randall meets tony robbins meets tony the tiger
― boy, was that Dan Fielding hungry for some cake! (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 12 April 2012 13:34 (twelve years ago) link
nabisco says things, is OTM
http://www.vulture.com/2012/04/lil-b-at-nyu-whats-so-funny-about-love.html
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 12 April 2012 15:50 (twelve years ago) link
was just coming to post that
― The Reverend, Thursday, 12 April 2012 15:54 (twelve years ago) link
ICP's "Miracles" got stuck in my head while reading that
― deejeridoo (some dude), Thursday, 12 April 2012 15:57 (twelve years ago) link
thank you based nabs
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 12 April 2012 16:08 (twelve years ago) link
And now? “I go to sleep, I’m so happy — you know why? Because I know I’m living what I’m talking about. I go to sleep at the end of the day, I’m like” — and here he mimed sleeping like a baby. “It feels so good to be honest.” He mimed mumbling peacefully in his sleep: “Honesty … integrity … loyalty … passion … friendship.”
Someone in the crowd yelled: “Are you a brony?”
― goole, Thursday, 12 April 2012 16:16 (twelve years ago) link
the fact that EMP was in the same building and a good amount of NYU students appeared to be in attendance makes me grateful for what a totally different vibe we had there
― deejeridoo (some dude), Thursday, 12 April 2012 16:28 (twelve years ago) link
That's for goddamn sure.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 12 April 2012 16:31 (twelve years ago) link
so... did this
if you put all of based god's serious tracks on one album you'd have like the best ny rap album of the past few years
― wee-based god (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, January 25, 2011 1:47 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ever actually happen? is there a legit 'best of', lil b, based god
― sleepingbag, Tuesday, March 13, 2012 5:09 PM (4 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
really tho, no one has done a RAR of this
― max, Thursday, 12 April 2012 16:38 (twelve years ago) link
i made a mix once but it's just his 2009-2010 vaporous stuff
― Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Thursday, 12 April 2012 17:14 (twelve years ago) link
(not including any of the paint material)
wow nabisco's piece is really great.
― Mississippi Butt Hurt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 12 April 2012 17:42 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, agreed
― boy, was that Dan Fielding hungry for some cake! (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 12 April 2012 18:42 (twelve years ago) link
it's kind of weird to me that even the smarter takes on this whole thing seem to lay the obnoxious LOLZ reception he got almost wholly at the feet of the audience itself as if Lil B's music and his presentation of it never actively encouraged that kind of engagement. and the idea that projecting a kind of super-positive motivational speaker/philosopher persona can't be in and of itself kind of a schtick really ignores the existence of Andrew W.K.
― deejeridoo (some dude), Thursday, 12 April 2012 19:20 (twelve years ago) link
h8 posi zombies
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 12 April 2012 19:24 (twelve years ago) link
Base yrself fitter
― sleepingbag, Thursday, 12 April 2012 19:26 (twelve years ago) link
it's difficult to explain the middle ground
― boy, was that Dan Fielding hungry for some cake! (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 12 April 2012 19:29 (twelve years ago) link
― deejeridoo (some dude), Thursday, April 12, 2012 1:20 PM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
See, I think the idiot savant element of Lil B is hard to properly explain, but I think there is some element of that in him, and I'm speaking as a huge Based God fan. And it plays into the is-B-putting-us-on aspect of the discussion. I don't think B is stupid, and I think there is some element of self-awareness to the whole self-help persona. I think he courts it to an extent, but here's the kicker—while B might be self-aware and acknowledge that it might be silly, it doesn't lessen the message. You can be ironic (not that B is ironic) AND sincere; you can joke but still be serious about "treating everyone like babies."
― heiswagger (rennavate), Thursday, 12 April 2012 19:44 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i think he definitely believes in what he's saying, and it's perfectly OK to couch an honest message in humor or knowing absurdity, lots of great artists have. it just seems like bordering on willfully obtuse to act like anyone who came there to snicker and shout "thank you based god" is callously stomping over a serious event that more well behaved audience members went to witness with zero irony or rubbernecking intended.
― some dude, Thursday, 12 April 2012 19:57 (twelve years ago) link
totally otm
i mean this was LIL B GIVING A LECTURE AT NYU, there was a 0% chance it wasnt going to be awkward
― ♆ (gr8080), Thursday, 12 April 2012 20:00 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, I agree there. But I'm sure there were SOME who did go there just to snicker at Lil B. Basically, it's complicated... but that feels like a cop-out? But yeah, why can't it be a sincere event but still funny? I do think that's a very precarious balance to find, an extremely fine line to walk.
― heiswagger (rennavate), Thursday, 12 April 2012 20:02 (twelve years ago) link
it can't be a sincere event because anyone selling the kind of hippie dippy platitudes he's selling without any weirdness or lolz would not fill a room with NYU students
― some dude, Thursday, 12 April 2012 20:06 (twelve years ago) link
u dont think the dalai lama would fill a room w/ nyu students?
― max, Thursday, 12 April 2012 20:07 (twelve years ago) link
i mean more from lil b's perspective. i'm sure he was serious about all his advice, etc, regardless of the inherent lulz to them or any wink-wink self-awareness.
― heiswagger (rennavate), Thursday, 12 April 2012 20:08 (twelve years ago) link
these are all really interesting points, very based discussion everyone
― Mississippi Butt Hurt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 12 April 2012 20:08 (twelve years ago) link
well i mean out of contemporary musicians who act like religious gurus, not actual religious gurus
― some dude, Thursday, 12 April 2012 20:13 (twelve years ago) link
Alright, y’all, so we’re about to wrap up. I want to take pictures with y’all for Facebook and Twitter. Let’s take these rare pictures real quick and we’ll get up out of here. [Proceeds to sign a variety of sneakers, MacBooks and cooking utensils, and take photographs and shake hands for a half hour]
― dmr, Thursday, 12 April 2012 20:20 (twelve years ago) link
that's from the end of the Fader's full transcript (!) of the lecture
www.thefader.com/2012/04/12/based-scripture-the-full-transcript-of-lil-bs-lecture-at-nyu/
― dmr, Thursday, 12 April 2012 20:21 (twelve years ago) link
I kinda admire Lil B's willingness to step up and accept the idolized-role-model status we give to celebrities who are even a little bit articulate, knowing and deep/energized, while humorously deflating it at the same time. When he loses that urge toward self-deprecating humor, he'll have lost touch with reality.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Thursday, 12 April 2012 20:44 (twelve years ago) link
i dunno it just seems like such a smirky pantomime of hero worship and inspirational rhetoric for a bunch of jaded milennials that are too cool to actually look up to anyone or belive in anything without a thick layer if irony
― some dude, Thursday, 12 April 2012 20:51 (twelve years ago) link
act like anyone who came there to snicker and shout "thank you based god" is callously stomping over a serious event that more well behaved audience members went to witness with zero irony or rubbernecking intended.
don't think anyone's acting as if this is true
― Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Thursday, 12 April 2012 20:54 (twelve years ago) link
i think ppl at the lecture were probably engaging w/ lil b in a lot of different ways and w/ different levels/kinds of irony, jadedness, condescension, whatever. & some of it is probably warranted or brought on and encouraged by lil b & some of it not.
― max, Thursday, 12 April 2012 20:55 (twelve years ago) link
i mean there's some straight up heinous attitudes contained in some of those audience reactions
― Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Thursday, 12 April 2012 20:58 (twelve years ago) link
yeah but absolutely nothing that's inconsistent with the way people interact with him or his music online afaict. maybe having it acted out in the flesh makes it seem different, i dunno.
― some dude, Thursday, 12 April 2012 20:59 (twelve years ago) link
not much to add to the discussion, but I really enjoyed that Nabisco article, and listening to the lecture again and trying to tune out the crowd, and it's actually really nice and heartwarming - charming in its simplicity, like (i'm really eloquent today). I doubt the sincerity of the crowd much more than the sincerity of Lil B, mind.
― I'm not going leftfield on you... (hypehat), Thursday, 12 April 2012 21:33 (twelve years ago) link
wtf is a 'sincere event'?
― ogmor, Thursday, 12 April 2012 22:51 (twelve years ago) link
is it demographically homogeneous & free of anything that cld go viral
― ogmor, Thursday, 12 April 2012 22:54 (twelve years ago) link
well like if a kid gets killed and they have a candlelight vigil
― Mississippi Butt Hurt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 12 April 2012 22:54 (twelve years ago) link
ogmor, well, everybody could be delivered with a wink and a nudge, y'know, but he sounds so genuine (and yeah, he does have a sense of humour about it, but it doesn't seem very idk meanspirited). Regardless of anything that could go viral or anything weird or whatever, that's not what i meant.
― I'm not going leftfield on you... (hypehat), Thursday, 12 April 2012 22:59 (twelve years ago) link
Lil B openly encourages anyone in the room to say whatever they want at the beginning of his talk
― ♆ (gr8080), Thursday, 12 April 2012 23:16 (twelve years ago) link
Show at New Museum tonight was excellent.
― Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Friday, 13 April 2012 02:40 (twelve years ago) link
it was
― Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Friday, 13 April 2012 12:31 (twelve years ago) link
Lil B From The Pack (@LILBTHEBASEDGOD) is now following you on Twitter!
*LEAVES WORK, FINDS NEAREST BAR, BUYS EVERYONE SHOTS*
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:08 (twelve years ago) link
felt the same impulse
― Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:19 (twelve years ago) link
wait what, this just happened to you? i mentioned him once like a year ago and he followed me 5 minutes later
― some dude, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:21 (twelve years ago) link
some of us are late bloomers, some dude
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:21 (twelve years ago) link
also i'm not sure if i've ever mentioned him
well, i'm proud that you've finally joined our very exclusive club that only a quarter of a million people belong to
― some dude, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:23 (twelve years ago) link
thank you, some dude
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:25 (twelve years ago) link
i wonder if any other famous people have a 2-to-1 ratio of followers to followees, it's pretty insane
― some dude, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:27 (twelve years ago) link