Electronic Artist You'd Most Like To Put In Your... Y'Know

happy birthday btw

http://www.cyclicdefrost.com/blog/wp-content/issue17/Mira-Calix-image-1.jpg

Playmate and Dj Carla Miskov
http://www.midiario.com/history/2010/12/29/fotos/29-20-PLAY.JPG

and DJ Andrea Rincon

http://media.elsiglodetorreon.com.mx/i/2012/02/362105.jpeg

No idea how good they actually are but they get hired a lot.

Completely agree on Nina Kraviz. She's really hot.

Nicolaas Jaar and Andy Barlow are good choices for me too.

Of the ones on the actual poll I don't really find any of them hot. Sorry.

http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/174377_677923178_444035_n.jpg

Anyone fancy some Ed Rush? ;P

A few more:

Miss Nine (incredibly hot but she was actually a model before a dj, so...)
http://www.juice.com.sg/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/miss-nine-stereolab.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_9Sqb6Vhazxg/TLqYWUDUY9I/AAAAAAAASEE/Mc5CzNMEtEM/s1600/DJ+Miss+Nine+%283%29.jpg

Scarlett Etienne
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_BG_ZOKnhp-U/S12WH0KtNQI/AAAAAAAAIz8/j87mKVA06yQ/s400/scarlettetienne.jpg
http://a1.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/128/302f1201fe3547d3941fca5cb254944b/l.jpg

tokimonsta is sweet

http://mnmpresents.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/TOKiMONSTA2012.jpg

Hm. Can anyone spot the difference in presentation between the majority of the men and the majority of the women in this thread?

the girls arent ginger?

http://www.cdeuroxpress.com/images2/730003707124.jpg

Yeah I know emil.y although in my defense 3 of the 4 girls I posted were first known for exposing their bodies and for their dj skills later.

Of the women the most discrete looking is Nina Kraviz and she's also the one with the best music of the bunch.

Andrea Rincon and Carla Miskov were even playmates. I don't really find them sexy to be honest.

Miss Nine and Nina Kraviz on the other hand are all around beautiful.

kraviz is fine tho i cannot picture her digging for shit on moldy basements

...vagina?

Hm. Can anyone spot the difference in presentation between the majority of the men and the majority of the women in this thread?

THIS is why I like E.MILY (part 1,257)

Men not sponsored by FHM.com.ph

to be fair there are plenty of female DJs known for being attractive, inc on this thread, who don't present themselves in FHM-style.

and tbh i wish nicolas jaar and ben klock would.

which reminds me, total approval for how d. lissvik presents himself. top 3 last.fm images!

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/59440283/D+Lissvik+Dan.jpg
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/63680179/D+Lissvik+Dan.jpg
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/17583701/D+Lissvik+dlissvik_400.jpg

Hm. Can anyone spot the difference in presentation between the majority of the men and the majority of the women in this thread?

― emil.y, Thursday, April 12, 2012 1:36 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I dunno, I'm having some trouble here?

http://www.theimagist.com/files/images/Windowlicker.jpg

http://www.earthhouse.com/images/poster_art/thom%20yorke.jpg

Those Lissvik photos must be old, if iirc corectly he's around 35 now and he looks like 19 on those.

No, I kid. And I hear you.

But it's like, it bothers me. A lot. And don't want to have to have the conversation for the eight billionth time about how dicey unisex perve threads end up because FUCK THE MALE GAZE, FUCK IT IN THE EYEBALLS, WITH KNIVES. AND GUNS. AND IMPLEMENTS OF DESTRUCTION. And that gets me angry and I don't want to be angry when I'm still on a birthday high and Thom Yorke wore the red trousers again last night, and those red trousers are so tight he might as well be nekkid.

And I don't want to be heteronormative and scream "no naked girls on my beautiful thread!" And you know that I am the A+ number one fan of excellent women making excellent electronic music and if people posted pictures of Laurel Halo or Zavoloka or Stellar Om Source or Roisin Murphy or Grimes or Mira Calix with a room full of synths or up their knuckles in a laptop that would be awesome. But that "always with the half naked girls with their breasts on display" thing, it just pisses me off and then it pisses me off that I have to get pissed off about it and then I don't even fancy D Lissvik but I'm going to look at him naked just to feel like there's some tiny modicum of balance.

x-post or just get out the cheesecakey Thom Yorke photos. Sigh.

BELLY. ROWR.

http://i.imgur.com/nf08R.jpg

I mean, I don't know what's going on in this photo, but I LIKE IT.

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/63680179/D+Lissvik+Dan.jpg

he's a bit diplo looking, no?

harvey's pretty primo for an old dude.

harvey looks like the dealer from withnail and i

Yeah he does look like Diplo. If he qualifies as an electronic artist might as well add him on the writeup votes.

I don't find Lissvik's face that attractive, (too square jawed, too symmetrical) but his blue tights are just beyond rowr.

Some day, SOME DAY, someone will discover ancient photos of Colin Greenwood in his bodystocking wearing eyeliner and the entire internet will explode.

Also, that photo of Thom in the swimming pool is reversed and it's really bugging me.

Why do I find asymmetry so ridiculously sexy in men? It's the same thing with Aphex Twin, it's the photos where his phace looks the most wonky that I find the most ridiculously hotttttt.

Speaking as a female I don't see what's so wrong about the semi-naked djs. They were playmates and they play for a specific niche. You'll have no trouble finding the other side of the spectre for men in gay clubs. eg (a quick google search for gay djs threw these photos on the top):

http://www.thegayobx.com/default/assets/Image/hotty_scotty_thompson_dj_gay_chicago_gay_new_york.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_OYfnPEQrU_g/So0puKMKwlI/AAAAAAAAAD4/VfkjwT4-_D0/S1600-R/gay+DJ.jpg

http://www.gay-party.com/docs/photos/antoine.jpg

Sexploitation is inherent in club culture.

Moka, I'm not going to spam up this thread arguing with you, but if you want to take a look at any of the million threads about gender and gender presentation, and the dichotomy of "men act, women appear" and the Male Gaze, you will see that we have been through this a million times before.

Why is it that you have to GIS for "gay DJ" in order to find sexualised photos of men, while standard photos of female musicians are sexualised in a way that your "not specifically packaged for the gay scene" male musicians are just not? (See also: the assumption that sexualised men are "for the gay scene" and not for a female audience, because that's annoying, too.)

This isn't just about club culture, this is about *all* of culture and how women are generally automatically presented as sexually appealing in a really standardised way (and also a really impossible beauty standard) before anything, in a way that men just are not.

And a couple of shirtless photos of men does not redress that balance, because men are always given the *choice* of whether they want to portray themselves in a sexual light, in a way that women are pressured, both subtly and overtly, to do the FHM thing.

I'm so fucking tired of this argument, and look, here I am having it again. ARGH.

I completely understand the argument and I don't support it. But I'm not sure if sexism works in the club context. My point in here is that it really depends on what electronic scene we're talking about. On the minimal techno / IDM scene you'll hardly find a dj male or female that uses sex as a presentation card. In the dance / house club scene you'll find semi-naked men and women all of the time, all over the place. It's a scene fueled by looks and sex and if you frequented clubs at one point of your life you know exactly what I'm talking about. This isn't about war of the sexes.

The problem here is that we started comparing male IDM artists with house female djs, and I'm responsible for it. Female artists like Nina Kraviz, Andrea Parker, Grimes, Bjork and all of those you mentioned are much better fits and you wont see them using their bodies as marketing weapons.

I just can't do this any more.

L@@K!!! HERE IS A PICTURE OF THOM YORKE'S ERECTION!!!

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i67/soundship/album%202/mygod.jpg

LOOK AT IT!!! LOOK AT THAT YORKE BONER!!! L@@K AT IT!!!!!

Female artists like Nina Kraviz ... you wont see them using their bodies as marketing weapons.

Maybe I'm wrong, but that's not really the impression I get with Nina Kraviz.

Female artists like Nina Kraviz ... you wont see them using their bodies as marketing weapons.

Maybe I'm wrong, but that's not really the impression I get with Nina Kraviz.

― French Cricket in the USA (NickB)

Why not? In every photo I've seen of her she's always dressed very conservative, I don't think I've even seen her showing cleavage.

Well, she's definitely more sophisticated than that phwoar-look-at-my-tittays stuff upthread but she is definitely using her looks as a marketing thing in stuff like this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=605bwlAz_iQ

If an artist dancing in his/her own music video is a symbol of sexploitation then I'm completely out of tune with you guys.

from very tail end of 2011 - its almost pastiche but i don't really mind

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xW6Xox7lDcc

hmm i think i may have posed this in the wrong thread

Yeah, I don't think I would claim that Nina Kraviz is being exploited in that video. That being my first exposure to her though, my primitive man-brain is now having a hard time dissociating her looks from her music.

I never really know what anyone looks like but of the ones listed here I'd say Ben Klock though he's not really my type as such

Yeah, I don't think I would claim that Nina Kraviz is being exploited in that video.

well, i'd say she's def walking on a thin line

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJtf-Mmkx-Q

this vid is almost embarrasing, like she's on the verge of being literally raped by a bunch of drunken fellas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckjKUPVWRts

h: In the international underground DJ scene, there’s only recently more women that have a lot of respect as DJs. Have you found it difficult to be accepted or difficult to get respect from the crowds because of this?

NK: No, no.

h: Or have you found it worked to your advantage in any way?

NK: I can definitely tell you that I have so many things to think of, and I really don’t want to go down the topic of living in a sexist world, being such a poor lady and stuff like that. I have a personal problem with one thing…

h: Sure.

NK: I don’t want to talk about more women in the industry or this. My problem is that people are still taking… A driver, does he have a sex?

h: Sure…

h: I’ve seen you DJ a few times and I had no question that you knew what you were doing, absolutely no question. I was trying to approach the question more from the angle that I understand that you do actually do what you do, and I understand that you’re actually really doing it, but I still hear a lot of people, even people that I know that I respect in the music scene, that will talk about the way you look before they talk about the way you play.

NK: Well that’s not a problem for me. Of course it’s not a problem! I’m a girl… if people stop looking at me as a girl I’d be very upset. Didn’t you see the real girl who doesn’t like to look at the mirror and check how pretty she is, or if the makeup is perfect? Come on! I’ll always be a woman and I like my femininity. I like to be attractive and have people constantly watching me and stuff, definitely.

h: Yes.

NK: I mean, I believe energy is one of the most important things that makes everything move. That’s the most important point in the whole thing! Coming back to the question, I would say I have no problem with people taking me as a woman behind the decks. No problem! But only if they are really educated enough to realize the difference between just any woman behind the decks and me is huge, enormous… it’s immense, it matters. So when they realize the difference and they realize I’m a professional first and can mix my tracks and have my own style and sound, then no problem. Look anywhere you want! Enjoy my ass shaking, anything, feel free, but only if you realize that and enjoy what I’m doing and the music, only if you take it as the whole concept. If you take it separately, then get lost really! Then this is sexism, I don’t want to be the doll really or a puppet.

https://halcyonline.com/2011/qa-nina-kraviz/

so russian

so amazingly russian <3

ARGH see this is so complicated, because it is, and it isn't.

Like, the whole thing of, sexuality is INHERENT in music, and especially dance music.

Dancing is sexual display. It's an artform and an expression, too, but it's also very much a sexual display. And it's not as if male musicians from Elvis Presley to Thom Yorke have not taken advantage of that. Because, on one level, I really don't see any difference between that Nina Kravitz dancing video posted above, and this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfOa1a8hYP8

Sexy artists doing their sexy thing, to sexy music. That's what it's about.

But it gets complicated by, questions like, why is Nina doing her thang in a leotard, while Thom is doing his thang in a pair of jeans and a non-revealing shirt? They're sexualised in different ways.

But it's also about the sense of entitlement which exists in the eye of the viewer, of how many men take a woman being in revealing clothes, doing a sexy dance as entitlement, that that means not just that they are entitled to the Gaze, that THEY ARE ENTITLED TO THEIR BODY. In a way that, when most people see Thom Yorke doing sexy dancing, they think he's just sexy dancing because he's ~feeling it~ in the song, and that doesn't reduce Thom to solely being his looks and his sexuality, or that we, as viewers, are entitled to his physical being. The expectations are different, and that's the ugly thing. But also, that a man being sexy is just adding another layer to him as a human being, while, if a woman gets sexy, it seems like it utterly subsumes everything else they're ~allowed~ to be. They get reduced to sex and nothing else. Which is blatantly unfair. And it's not about ~man-brains~ so don't give me that crap, it's about how women are portrayed and the expectations that our society has around women and female beauty. And it's bullshit.

But, you know, I just want less dudes talking about women's bodies and sexualities on this thread because you guys have the rest of the internet for doing that, and there are very few places that women and gay men get to discuss men's looks and sexuality in the same way without being punished or penalised for it, so can we just go back to enjoying what we were enjoying?

You know, Nina, I am happy for you to have the option of being pretty-girl and enjoying your own looks and your sexuality.

But I would like to be a girl, and be accepted as a real girl and a true girl, as someone WHO DOES NOT LOOK IN THE MIRROR THAT MUCH and wants to be free to be accepted as a woman in the same way.

Like, I want to have the freedom to have the same attitude towards my looks that the Aphex Twin does.

And not have these expectations of "what girl doesn't like looking in the mirror?" foisted on me, because you know what, I would like to be a woman and be free of *those* expectations of femininity. That infuriates me.

I would like a world where Nina gets to be sexy, and I get to schlump around in baggy combats with my hair in a messy ponytail and both of these be OK options for us to be ~taken seriously!~ as women.

As women, and as *musicians*.

Obviously there's a difference to "being exploited" and having one's sexuality serve as part of one's persona and music. Surely there's loads of counter examples, but I think it's straight up naive to say there isn't a disparity in representation in a male dominated market.

And I think it was Ronan who once made the very OTM point here that there's so much subliminal (homo)erotic hero worship placed on djs that when you finally get a high-end female djs it suddenly becomes acceptable to be "omg cassy i luv u ur so beautiful"