the occasional thread for mean, nasty, ugly, evil metal that doesn't smell good and that takes itself way too seriously

el sabor, are you down with the New Wave Of Latino Thrash? i am. they rule. and they don't give a SHIT about ANYTHING except thrash fuckin' metal.

merciless death:

http://www.myspace.com/mercilessdeath

fueled by fire:

http://www.myspace.com/fueledbyfire

violator:

http://www.myspace.com/viothrash

eternal devastation:

http://www.myspace.com/eternaldevastationthrash

sociofobia:

http://www.myspace.com/sociofobia

wardeath:

http://www.myspace.com/wardeaththrash

slaver:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=74397371

crucifier:

http://www.myspace.com/crucifiergreece

comando nuclear:

http://www.myspace.com/comandonuclear

witchaven:

http://www.myspace.com/witchaven

street force:

http://www.myspace.com/streetforcethrash

infantry:

http://www.myspace.com/thrashtokill

warbringer:

http://www.myspace.com/warbringer

hatchet:

http://www.myspace.com/hatchet2006

sakrificer:

http://www.myspace.com/sakrificer

malicious assault:

http://www.myspace.com/maliciousassault

a couple of those might not actually be cali or south american thrash, but they might as well be!

i love the Merciless Death album. those dudes are on fire. their influences:

The following bands in no particular order : Slayer - Exodus - Anthrax - Testament - Death Angel - Dark Angel - Possessed - Vio-Lence - Exumer - Voivod - Kreator - Destruction - Sodom - Venom - Sepultura - Nasty Savage - Nuclear Assault - Overkill - Metal Church - Sabbat (UK)- Sabbat (Jap)- Mortal Sin - Exciter - Annihilator - Agent Steel - D.R.I. - Celtic Frost - Iron Angel - Assassin - Sacrifice - Slaughter (Canada) - Acid Reign - Korzus - Coroner - Darkness - Paradox - Blessed Death - Deathrow - Artillery - Razor - Heathen - Forbidden - Death (Scream Bloody Gore and Leprosy) - Necronomicon - Sarcofago - M.O.D. - Exorcist - Devastation - Whiplash - Vendetta - Blood Feast - Morbid Saint - Powerlord - Vulcano - Accuser - Apocalypse - Coven - Onlaught - Atomkraft - Sentinel Beast - Hell Bastard - Gothic Slam - Evil Dead - Flotsam and Jetsam - Hirax - Viking - Laaz Rockit - Abbatoir - Num Skull - Deathwish - Mutilator - Destructor - Torture - Violent Force - Kublai Khan - Slaughter Lord - Rigor Mortis - S.O.D. - Sadus - Virus (UK Thrash) - Sacred Reich - Anacrusis - Mercenary (Bay Area) - Acrophet - Dream Death - Poison (Germany) - Warrant (Germany) - Mercyful Fate - Morbid Angel - Deicide WE ARE VINYL/CD/CASSETTE/VHS COLLECTORS OF ALL THE BANDS WE HAVE LISTED!

Hrmm, so uhh, is it just me or is that Ganzmord song basically polka with some chaotic grindy bits between verses? I guess it doesn't swing enough for that to be quite true, but this song is way too happy to be evil. I did like the Bad Brains section. Could do without the Death-style bridge.

I think there's something in me that in effect strips off all the noise and screaming and takes the melody/beat to the fore. This kind of sucks, because it makes a lot of these evil bands sound surprisingly happy. Often rockabilly-like (Heretic come to mind)
Maybe I've simply lost my black metal listening-skills. [insert bit about "faggots don't like $band it hurts their pussys"]
I just don't feel the grim any more!
I did consider going to see Nunslaughter live, but suspect I'd be sick of it in 10 minutes, just like I was with the (admittedly funny) live record I used to have.

So, fuck it all. Thrash is where it's at. I'm gonna go put on some Terror Squad! Discö bloody discö!

ganzmord makes me happy! there is some GREAT noise on the album. i still like the stuff from the split though too. the stuff from the demo on the album is the most over-the-top skreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee noise. in a year, he'll probably be scoring operas and forming bm supergroups.

also digging archival french speed from 84:

http://www.hellsheadbangers.com/accelerationprocess.jpg

DOLLAR GORE RULES.

How about free gore? My husband did security at one of the Metal Fests in Milwaukee (Hawkwind, do you live there?) eons ago and came home with a stack of free CDs. One title I'll never forget was Inbreeding The Anthropophagi (had to look up "anthropophagi") by Deeds of Flesh who might be too girlie for this thread. Also remember a song called "Chunks in the Shower" which AMG tells me is by Deeds of Flesh as well. But other "chunks" titles came up and I came across this album by one Broken Hope:

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:dcfwxq9hld6e

Titles seem promising beyond "She Came Out In Chunks": "Coprophagia" (know that word!), "Hobo Stew," "Decimated Genitalia," and, my favorite, "Felching Vampires." No nun rape, though, unless "Preacher of Sodomy" preaches thusly. And you gotta love that parental advisory sticker.

Aside: you should check out nunsploitation cinema if you haven't already. Start with Alucarda and then move your way down. I can't get enough of the stuff.

Hey my buddy's in a pretty good Mexican thrash band:

http://www.myspace.com/muertevilla

ahh, scott - i'm so glad you dig morsure, i mentioned them on rolling metal and no one seemed to give a shit. that album's fucking great. i said it somewhere else and i'll say it here: the metal urbain of thrash.

going to have to check out the latino thrash links later, but i remember in the late 80s when the mexican dudes started getting into the scene in a big way, some killer bands and many of them didn't get past the demo stage. sadistic intent and nausea/terrorizer did, though.

I was listening to Karma Bloody Karma by Cattle Decapitation yesterday - does that count or are they too pussy for this thread, I mean they are vegans and everything?

The Morsure is rad! I only just got it, which is why i couldn't comment before.

a lot of the non-Cali thrash bands are from Brazil. Like Slaver:

http://a884.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/01385/38/86/1385836883_l.jpg

http://a450.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/00731/94/45/731945449_l.jpg

i dig cattle decapitation. i don't care if they are vegan. it's not like i can tell they are vegan from the music. and even if they sucked, they would always be classic just for this:

http://www.portlandmercury.com/blogtown/files/2006/07/az_1478_Humanure_Cattle%20Decapitation.jpg

OMGLOL. I haven't seen that one before.

japanese hentai-inspired goregrind is the best kind of hentai-inspired goregrind:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=2OXKogY0zz8

amoebic dysentery:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=hk8cZ2LVBQA&mode=related&search=

-vs-

pulmonary fibrosis:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=7N4DyWEPFk4&mode=related&search=

dammit man i was about to go get lunch 3xpost

herman neuname wrote on the other metal thread:

"I bought the Whitehorse 2xCD from 20 Buck Spin."

i like it. i'd never heard whitehorse before. they do the ugly epic doom thing very well. i might like that monarch! double cd on crucial blast more though. maybe.

you know what i REALLY like is the stormcrow/sanctum split that 20 buck spin sent me. but i'm a sucker for a d beat. stormcrow and sanctum call their music WAR CRUST. which is a great tag. i wonder what last fm would come up with if i typed that in.

also got the new one from Forgotten Woods. from Norway. first album in over 10 years! they must have gotten lost in those woods. or they forgot to make a record. in the woods. i'm sad that oystein doesn't feel the grim anymore :( that means that geir is the lone grim Norwegian on ilm. and that is really sad!

Putrid Pile you guys

seriously

at MDF dude was unfuckinghinged and made noises without any vocal effects that were, 'ow you say, SIIIIIIIIIIIICK

Putrid Pile have a new album coing out on the ever-loveable Goregiastic Records:

http://www.goregiasticrecords.com/

that new Forgotten Woods album is pretty fucked. Kinda mellow for this thread though. They must smoke a lot of pot. What kind of pot do you get in Norway?

oh man Foetopsy's on Goregiastic - they were one of my favorites at MDF, their album isn't breakin' a lot of ground but it sure is breakin' a lot of grind har har har! fuckin' love those guys

got Moribund mail yesterday too. new Drawn And Quartered album sounds nice. MERCILESS HAMMER OF LUCIFER! also new Hacavitz which i'm looking forward to and new Godless Rising featuring dudes from Vital Remains.

have you heard the new Drawn And Quartered, John? i would think you would like it.

got the latest issue of SOD in the mail the other day too. kinda disappointed that Lordi were on the cover. And also kinda disappointed that the cd was just a southern lord sampler. they usually have great death label comps. oh well. still a great issue overall of one of my fave mags.

haven't heard it, no - feel like I saw it though! will poke around

the thing about Foetopsy that makes them great though is that they don't take themselves seriously AT ALL - dude was wearing a belt made up of tampons onstage

dud of the week: seizure crypt album. dudes trying to revive old skool (but not that old) NYHC but it's really anemic. don fury production and all that, but so flat. half sung/half rapped (kinda) shit. i'd rather listen to judge. or madball. or sick of it all. definitely did NOT provide the "unbridled crossover ferocity" that it advertised. where's my token entry reunion! (there probably was one. what the hell do i know? i think everyone has reunited four times by now.)

NYHC is so often anaemic and weak if it's not done right. I can see why a lot of HC fans just write off the whole genre. I mean I do most of the time! I like old Agnostic Front though. Their 3rd album sucked so much shit I never bothered with anything after.

I will be downloading Foetopsy :)

finally getting around to the Vital Remains's Icons of Evil...fuck do I ever love this band

not as great as "Dechristianize" yet but we'll see

fucking GUITAR SOLOS up in this bitch, proper stuff

i love the first two agnostic front albums too. cause for alarm is so awesome. wish i still had a copy. it's been so long since i heard the third album. i don't think i hated it. it was metallic, i remember that.

It was metallic but in a really feeble and powerless way. Like a lot of crossover. Even good crossover stuff like DRI and COC has songs that just fall flat and 3rd AF is a whole album of that.

I'm not a big crossover fan though, in general.

I tend to like "proper" hardcore punk, or thrash metal, much more than most attempts to combine the two.

I like Cryptic Slaughter a lot. And Dead Horse.

this hacavitz is the shit. drummer is just going nuts. i love that they recorded it as a duo. very very cool album so far.

honestly, this is probably my favorite crossover album of all time and i know people who HATE it with a passion:

http://xclaim.com/images/hwr.gif

i mean, i can't even tell you how many times i've played that album. 500 times? i do love dri, but my love for their early days knows no bounds.

i guess i wasn't really that much of a skate punk fan in the 80's. speaking of which, Mcrad have a new album out.

i took to thrash like a fish to water though.

I've never heard that SSD album. I'm not a huge fan of theirs though, compared to other Boston bands like DYS, Jerry's Kids, Negative FX, Freeze etc.

Hacavitz album is definitely my pick of the week. great black/death action. great riffs. insane drummer. gnarly solos. punk energy and feel. total sweetness. oh, and completely fugly.

"i guess i wasn't really that much of a skate punk fan in the 80's."

although i loved jfa with a passion. there are always exceptions.

You've motivated me to look for How We Rock now. Partly because it's so hated by hardcore punkers!

xpost I'm not a big skate punk fan at all but I do dig JFA and Ill Repute (amongst others)

this might be the first punk record i bought where i thought to myself at the time, hey, this sounds like metal!

http://homepages.nyu.edu/~alr237/kraut_whettingthescythe.jpg

not all of it, but the songs ngri and flossing with an e string especially.

hey, col. poo, have you heard daymares or sss? i have to review their new albums. on the punk tip and all.

http://www.myspace.com/yourdaymares

http://www.myspace.com/shortsharpshock

oh wait i lied i'm not reviewing the sss. though i like the sss album. i am reviewing the new toxic bonkers album though.

http://www.myspace.com/toxicbonkers

Fueled by Fire are boring as shit live. Saw them open for, I think, Municipal Waste, who admittedly will make any band seem boring, but they were still pretty damn boring. Did I mention that they're boring?

SSS, on the other hand, are totally awesome.

Fueled by Fire just signed to Metal Blade, so I don't know what that says about metal blade in 2007.

Although I did like the Middian album, which is doom but doesn't smell good at all.

More dollar death:

http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/dre400/e496/e496368zop0.jpg

Also on Grind Core, cover art also by Cradle of Filth dude. Apparently Tipper Gore didn't like these guys in the 80s, but this one is from 1992, with the main guy and some scabs. Crap production (obviously), but it's actually pretty tuneful. The local used record store has tons of Grind Core releases in the dollar bin.

my problem with death metal now is the definition of 'brutal' death has changed to this homogeneous, unimaginative glut of bands that are basically just breakdowns, pingy drums, and pig-vocals with sterile, pristine production, whereas 'brutal' death in the 90s had this wide gulf of talented bands with earthy, raw production and personality. oh, there was shit too, lots of it, but like nowadays idk who is even at the forefront of 'brutal death' that isn't just an old school band that didn't retire.

which is...why I liked Disgorge (US) a lot, tbh.

(the non-brutal wing of death metal, otoh, seems to be fine as it has always been, thriving even)

oh yah all the flavors like prog/tech/blackened/doom have so many great bands doing it now. an abundance of riches. that crunchy riffy swedish style. i love all the stuff that sounds like that now. even some people who know how to write songs! like, memorable songs.

listened to nihilist and entombed demos today too. they never get old. they could come out today and they would be my new favorite band!

my problem with death metal now is the definition of 'brutal' death has changed to this homogeneous, unimaginative glut of bands that are basically just breakdowns, pingy drums, and pig-vocals with sterile, pristine production

I love that shit, but I freely admit that it all sounds the same. I buy those albums based solely on cover art, because I know they're gonna sound indistinguishable from one another. I feel like I should put them all into a giant playlist like I do with all the Total compilations on the Kompakt label, and just shuffle it. Gurgh gurgh gurgh gurgh gurgh, ping ping ping ping ping, all day long.

a little fancy for this thread but i wanted to give some love to something new. i love the way it sounds. very digi. i like the way its edited. like it was engineered by someone with a latin freestyle background. death metal bands should start putting their records together on tape with razorblades. that would be awesome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cehSqvek4N0

why won't someone reissue this on cd for me? the old cd copies go for stupid money. they became something completely different later but i don't care about that stuff i am all about this album.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_Oy7qO3NLg

so sikkkkkkkk!!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjaV-3PLXh8

i can't keep up with all the insanity that GoatowaRex is putting out. sheesh. they don't even let a fella catch his breath!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARWFOjki3tU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n80pKUmyCUc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzcwVNjLL1M

very entertaining tribute album. good job by everyone. lots of great crunch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KY6f3pqIiAo

the guitar sound on this is just.....fuck....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIJp9_BM1Qg

reason #6666 why i never need to listen to Pantera.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XSNuZC3ymc

I'd not heard that Necrophobic but the guitars are SO clearly a Tomas Skogsberg production.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcBC9D8atNE

recorded in the 90s. released in 2009.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1YxhKaq0bI

I wrote this in 2008:

Upon Listening To Amok's Necrospiritual Deathcore

I listen to a lot of music. Tons. It is one of the great joys in my life. And you never really know what is going to hit you the hardest next. Or at least I don't. Not all the time anyway. Sure, I have a good idea by now what I will like and what I won't like based on prior listening and descriptions. Some things definitely sound enticing to me when I read about them beforehand. And I know I will probably be turned off if I read certain warning sign words in a review or article or whatever. "post-Soft Bulletin Flaming Lips", "emocore", "Death Cab For Cutie", "Amerindie pop with a dash of electronica". Stuff like that. Basically, 90% of the junk promo e-mail I get reads like a worst-case scenario to some degree. And I definitely anticipate loving certain things before I hear them. I was so blown away by French band Deathspell Omega's Kenose album that I really couldn't wait to hear their next album. Lots of people felt this way. Kenose was special. It FELT genuinely evil. The darkness surrounding it is the kind that is not easily duplicated or faked. You have to commit wholeheartedly to making music like that, and you have to give of yourself to receive something so, in some ways, repellent. Or abrasive. Well, not if you are a metal fan you don't. Not usually. Abrasive and repellent is par for the course. But some records work so hard to push against you. Push you away from the music. For adventurous listeners, this means that it's time to push back. To dive in and see how far under you can go. Try and figure out what the hell is going on in there. This is me, anyway. This is what I like to do. I allow the music to take me over. To have its way with me. Which is one reason why I listen to music louder than most people do. I don't want it to be background. Wallpaper. Something to wash dishes too. Don't get me wrong. I do wash dishes and listen to music. But I want to HEAR it. And the people in my life have been turning it down for decades.
Anyway, the follow-up to Deathspell Omega's Kenose came out in 2007 and I enjoyed it a great deal. But it didn't suck me in like Kenose. I didn't grapple with it. Ultimately, it's probably a more "listenable" album. It's still crazed and heavy and nuts and all that, but it doesn't create that perfect storm of atmosphere that Kenose whipped up in its tsunami of blackness. Fas - Ite, Maledicti, in Ignem Aeternum, the latest album, suffers a bit from Kenose's success. This band has already BEEN to the other side. So what do you do for an encore? It's a tough trick. A trick that many bands before them have tried to pull.
Norway's Amok was one of the bands that pulled me down to new depths in 2007. Their Necrospritual Deathcore album on the Planet Satan Revolution label threw me for all kinds of loops. Here's my review from Decibel Magazine:

Color me impressed! Amok’s first full-length is a helluva malevolent beast. A big shout-out to Necrocum, Goatpromoter Lava, Iscariah and… Stanley. Sigh. Attention, dudes in bands: Just GIVE your drummer a cool name, OK? Apparently they have a hard time coming up with one on their own. Anyhoo, these Norse noise boys serve up the blackened death-thrash hybrid with scary aplomb. With their heavy, heavy super-repetitive riffs that sink below ground in a swirling depressive spiral, you can see why the band name-checks olde-tyme demonic thudmasters like Von and Sadistik Exekution. But just when you think you’re in for simple heads-down mid-tempo thrash or proto-BM, they throw in a what-the-fuck echo-laden blues guitar solo or some other disorienting effect and top it all off with some modern BM flair. Suffice it to say, there’s more than meets the eye here.

And this leads you to the three-part showpiece of the disc. The creepy Jim Jones samples in between songs are another harbinger of the dementia to come. After a long-ass intro of tubular bells and monk chanting comes a completely sick guitar line that sets the mood for this mini-epic. Lots of spoken word shouting—Jim Jones transcripts?—culminates in the drone-like repetition of the line “No way out/ There is never a legitimate reason for leaving” amid all manner of unearthly sounds, time-changes and that sick sick guitar. So cool! Also, it sounds like a different band entirely from the first half of the album. Then things get really weird. More of these fucked noises, please! And a shout-out to Nazipenis Hoest, who plays drums on this “Goatflesh Removal” trilogy; he’s always there when you need him. Apparently Malfeitor Fabban from Aborym is on this thing somewhere too, but all is chaos, and who can tell what’s going on? Highly recommended for fans of all things mysterious and spooky. Or just for Satanists with a taste for bad-ass guitars. You aren’t all into cheesy keyboard action, right? —Scott Seward

So, yeah, that's how I felt about the album at the time in spring of 2007. Translated into Decibelese, of course. And I kept coming back to it. The guitars on Amok's album...ooh la la. They are everything over-distorted guitars should be. Just glorious. But it's that album-ending "Goatflesh Removal". Man, I just can't explain it properly. The spoken vocals that are at complete odds with the rest of the album. The mantra-like calm. One of the missions for Amok as a band was to take things back to that old school of 80's scuzzbucket death and (actually fairly rocking) destruction of yore. And it is mission accomplished until this last bit. Because the last bit doesn't remind me of any Cro-Magnon proto-death acts I can think of. When I'm listening to the Goat Removal Trilogy, and Necrocum and Goatpromoter Lava and the rest are firing on all cylinders, I realize that I want everything to sound like this forever. That I want it to last forever. The song. This music. I never asked for these sounds. I had no idea what to expect when I put the cd on. I had never heard Amok before. The last albums by Primordial, Harvey Milk, and Converge have made me feel this way as well. It's as if time has stopped. The sounds these bands are making are simply archetypal sounds that act as perfect illustrations of what their music is and what their time on earth sounds like and what their creative goals are and what has come before them and what will come after them. I mean, PERFECT. The noises they are making are historic noises. They are making history in sound. Not for record books. I mean, that they are making history in the way that a tree makes history when it grows another ring. Their growth has enabled them to perfectly actualize their moment in time and space. Your most perfect day on earth may beat these albums by a mile, but nobody, as of this moment, has devoted a 100% cotton hoodie to your perfect day. And I never SAW your perfect day. So I must report on phenomena as it reaches me through whatever means are at my disposal. You can send me pictures of your perfect day, but I can't promise anything. Okay?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSbFksGIMCw