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Unrest hype = The Feelies died in vain.

Colin Meeder (Mert), Wednesday, 28 August 2002 07:10 (twenty-three years ago)

two years pass...
does anyone have the tracklisting for the reissue of Imperial FFRR? there's no info on the Teenbeat site..

shine headlights on me (electricsound), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 04:15 (twenty-one years ago)

All these posts without a single mention of Unrest's Stairway To Heaven, "I Do Believe You Are Blushing." Even Christgau admits that'a a good one. A decent band with a few good songs, but really haven't transcended that early 90s indie era. Transcend...there's another good rock critic word, at the risk of sounding, uh, pretentious.

I saw them live at Maxwells after Perfect Teeth and they did this long a capella bit that was beyond goofy. Bridgid Cross started to crack up in the middle of it, which was cool.

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 04:34 (twenty-one years ago)

20 tracks:
1-11: tracks on original US CD release of imperial f.f.r.r., remastered
12: Electrico - US vinyl bonus track - short and noisy
13, 14, 17: Hydrofoil One, Full Frequency, Wednesday & Proud - bonus tracks that were on the Guernica/4AD UK CD release of imperial f.f.r.r.
15: Isabel - 12" version
16: Cherry Cherry - sounds to me like the 7" version included on B.P.M.
18, 19: Empire and Rip-off - two demos of the track "Imperial"
20: Chdemo - demo of "Cherry Cherry"/"Cherry Cream On"

The bonus tracks aren't hugely revelatory (and fans probably have 'em already, except for the demos), but do buy it for the nice remastering job.

Ernest P. (ernestp), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 04:44 (twenty-one years ago)

4ad should reactivate guernica, they released some great records on it.

keith m (keithmcl), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 04:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Mark Robinson = among the rhythm-guitar greats.

this is the truest statement on this thread. as a guitar player, "cath carroll" makes me jealous. as a songwriter, "isabel" makes me jealous. as a grammarian, this paragraph is loaded with problematic sentences, but i'm too lazy to edit it.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 04:50 (twenty-one years ago)

kornrulez696 wrote: All these posts without a single mention of Unrest's Stairway To Heaven, "I Do Believe You Are Blushing."

There are a million things about the album I love, but I particularly love the double-tracked vocals on "Blushing" and how they diverge into non-obvious, amazing harmonies. Or on "June" where Bridget sings a pedal note for the "How did it feel to be 26 degrees?" part along with the main vocal melody.

...or how they put two instrumentals back to back, as if to say, "These are not throwaways" - and they are indeed essential! (On the other hand, I wouldn't have cared if they had left off "Food & Drink Synthesizer" from Perfect Teeth.) You have the drum machine precision of "Champion Nines" followed by the kinda-sloppy-but-in-a-good-way drumming of "Sugarshack".

Mark's guitar sound is just perfect. I mean, when I listen to the opening notes of "Goodbye," I'm practically in tears.

How does ILX rate the Phil Krauth solo albums? I only have Silver Eyes - it's okay, didn't really inspire me to buy more, though. That Panax song that was on one of the TeenBeat samplers was great. Do they have anything else?

Ernest P. (ernestp), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 05:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Shoot, I was hoping they'd include the single version of "Yes She Is My Skinhead Girl" (remixed to immortal effect by Kramer, if memory serves), which has yet to appear on CD in the U.S. except on K Records' International Hip Swing.

http://64.224.76.125/miva/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=KRAD&Product_Code=KCD016&Category_Code=IJ

Pete Scholtes, Wednesday, 2 March 2005 15:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Ernest: the new Phil Krauth is excellent. I'm listening to it right now for like the 4th time this morning (24 minutes long).

The Panax 7" is so so so so great. Their entire output is that 7" and the comp track which is also great.

adam (adam), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 16:24 (twenty-one years ago)

three years pass...

i'm gonna have to top and say completely fucking classic! i love this band so much.

htshell, Saturday, 15 March 2008 16:49 (eighteen years ago)

I totally love their cover of "God Gave Rock and Roll To You". After being blown away by that in the early 90s I picked up Perfect Teeth and never really got into it. But that one cover was amazing.

Euler, Saturday, 15 March 2008 17:07 (eighteen years ago)

And right you are for it! xpost

mehlt, Saturday, 15 March 2008 17:57 (eighteen years ago)

After not listening to them for a year or so I random-shuffled onto "Imperial" the other day and was elated all over again. What a great band.

Douglas, Sunday, 16 March 2008 15:04 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, to me they are just undeniably fantastic. Its so easy to call them one of my all time favorite bands.

The comparison to "what goes on" way up thread is very otm

later arpeggiator, Sunday, 16 March 2008 15:58 (eighteen years ago)

Was just thinking about them a bit yesterday. Very glad to have caught them twice, both times great.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 16 March 2008 16:12 (eighteen years ago)

I saw them the night Bill Clinton was elected! They were great.

Was just reading Matos' "great out-of-print albums" column on Perfect Teeth in Idolator the other day.

sleeve, Sunday, 16 March 2008 16:15 (eighteen years ago)

'I do believe that you are blushing'was always a favourite of mine
Beautiful. That album (Imperial...) on the wonderful and badly missed Ajax records for a while?

I have an album by Unrest in my loft that sounds more like I thought Unrest would sound - punk. And it's not the one with the girl on the cover.I've just done a fruitless, probably lazy, google and not found it. Any ideas?

Fer Ark, Sunday, 16 March 2008 20:31 (eighteen years ago)

Sorry - talking to myself here - think it was their first album

Fer Ark, Sunday, 16 March 2008 20:34 (eighteen years ago)

Malcolm X Park?

Mackro Mackro, Sunday, 16 March 2008 22:02 (eighteen years ago)

One of my favorite bands of all time.

Fortunately, I was visiting friends in DC and was there for this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQbUIgn7PIs. You find crazy shit on the internets.

Bill in Chicago, Sunday, 16 March 2008 22:37 (eighteen years ago)

Hmmm, I just noticed that the two Air Miami demo cassettes are available from Teenbeat on CDR. I have mp3s of one of them...not bad. May have to place an order.

dlp9001, Monday, 17 March 2008 00:38 (eighteen years ago)

one year passes...

Listening to Imperial F.F.R.R. for the first time in forever (nice remastered LP reissue). Might like it better now than I did then, and that's saying a lot. A lot a lot a lot a lot. Especially digging the more abstract tracks that seemed so much less immediately appealing when I first heard it. Best semi-unheralded U.S. indie rock LP of the early 90s? I dunno. How much competition is there? More than anything, I like how of its time and genre it sounds without sounding like anything else out there. It presents itself superficially as this casually scruffy, almost tossed-off object, very much in the style of the moment, but the arrangement and sequencing are incredibly well integrated. is It doesn't "break barriers" or invent a whole new pop aesthetic, but it hums along with this oddly propulsive slackness and hits it out of the park song after song after song. I can see why some might be annoyed by the sentimental directness of "Isabel", but it's short and sweet enough for me to accept without qualms. In fact, Isabel's only deficiency is its tendency to be held up as the album's avatar (when Imperial & Loyola obviously deserve that honor). Only thing I really miss is "Yes She Is My Skinhead Girl", and maybe the 7" version of "Cherry Cherry". "Wednesday and Proud"?

Now I wanna dig out Kustom Karnal Blaxploitation and Perfect Teeth.

a bleak, sometimes frightening portrait of ceiling cat (contenderizer), Sunday, 11 October 2009 02:28 (sixteen years ago)

It's just not Imperail ffrr without Yes She is My Skinhead Girl and Wednesday and Proud.

EDB, Sunday, 11 October 2009 12:57 (sixteen years ago)

Must be a UK v. US thing - I don't associate those songs with Imperial f.f.r.r. at all. Good songs, but in my mind would tip the album toward a poppier vibe than it should be.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 11 October 2009 13:03 (sixteen years ago)

I'm North American but have a UK version. Those are two of the best songs on the album, and I couldn't live without them (I guess US distributers were a bit sketched out about songs about fucking skinhead girls on sandy beaches?)

Also I was shocked to find out how bored I was by Perfect Teeth about a month ago. I spent a long time looking for a copy, and now aside from utter classics like Angel I'll walk you home, Breather xoxo and six layer cake, I can barely be bothered. Not a criticism, per se, as much as a personal feeling of disappointment.

EDB, Sunday, 11 October 2009 14:45 (sixteen years ago)

Don't think US distribs were sketched about anything. It's just that the UK version tacked on a few contemporaneous singles that might have been hard to track down outside the States. I.e., those songs really don't properly belong on Imperial F.F.R.R. Sort of standard practice for US vs. UK releases. Most of the US Fall LPs include singles not on the original UK versions.

And, yeah, I always saw Perfect Teeth as a disappointment in the wake of Imperial. Decent record on its own merits, just a bit of a let-down in comparison.

a bleak, sometimes frightening portrait of ceiling cat (contenderizer), Sunday, 11 October 2009 16:17 (sixteen years ago)

perfect teeth is great!

scott seward, Sunday, 11 October 2009 16:31 (sixteen years ago)

so, is it weird that i LOVE almost everything i've heard from mark robinson since 1991 (cherry cherry single), but that i've heard very little before 1991? i mean, i just never sought it out. i love unrest, i love mark solo, i love flin flon, i love air miami, i like (maybe not love) grenadine. i think maybe i'm afraid i won't like the earlier stuff as much. or maybe i'm just a weirdo. and i still need a copy of origami and urbanism.

scott seward, Sunday, 11 October 2009 16:42 (sixteen years ago)

Early stuff is very different, so your trepidation makes a kind of sense. Prior to Imperial, I don't think they really knew what they wanted to do or be, so they sort of bounced around through their influences. Kustom Karnal Blaxploitation seems like the epitome of this. Slots in with the loud guitars, funk-metal tendencies and dangerous/transgressive fascinations of early 90s indie/avant culture, but the band doesn't seem to feel terribly comfortable in that clothing. Skinhead Girl single seemed like the breakthrough at the time, the point at which they became themselves (kicking off a rush of great material on the run-up to Imperial: Factory EP, Bavarian Mods, Cherry Cherry).

a bleak, sometimes frightening portrait of ceiling cat (contenderizer), Sunday, 11 October 2009 17:02 (sixteen years ago)

Don't think US distribs were sketched about anything. Since they were on the label they ran I would say no, too. Also noteworthy that they didn't tack those on to the remaster.

Scott -
The further back you go the less pop and more post-punk Mark's work is; if that's your thing, it's worth exploring. I have copies of some of the early cassette stuff but never dif out anything pre-Imperial.

x-post

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 11 October 2009 17:05 (sixteen years ago)

Picked up a copy of the Isabel Bishop EP at the shoppe this morning - after trying and failing to find the "Skinhead Girl" 45 (where do things go when you aren't looking at them?). So great, and it's especially interesting to hear Teenage Suicide and Nation Writer in the context of this discussion. They seem like the bridge between Kustom Karnal and Imperial, along with She Makes Me Shake Like a Soul Machine, which sounds totally out of place on KK.

Now I gotta track down BPM and the Cath Carrol EP...

a bleak, sometimes frightening portrait of ceiling cat (contenderizer), Sunday, 11 October 2009 20:15 (sixteen years ago)

As far as I know, the two older tracks that fans of late Unrest need to hear are, "She Makes Me Shake Like a Soul Machine" and "Can't Sit Still." Not to say that the other stuff isn't worth hearing. My favorite song of theirs is still "Vibe Out!" Completists shouldn't forget the Mod Fuck Explosion soundtrack, only one song of which is on CD to my knowledge.

dlp9001, Sunday, 11 October 2009 20:28 (sixteen years ago)

2nd Can't Sit Still - that was the song that first caught my attention, twenty goddam years ago. Would add Christina to the S list, also from Malcolm X Park.

a bleak, sometimes frightening portrait of ceiling cat (contenderizer), Sunday, 11 October 2009 20:43 (sixteen years ago)

"Vibe Out" is one of my favorites also, so good.

also search "Headringer" from the Magic Flowers 7" box and the acoustic "Cath Carroll".

sleeve, Sunday, 11 October 2009 21:18 (sixteen years ago)

Forgot about Headringer! Box was called Magic Ribbons, irc. A lot of it was crap, but that's a great Unrest song it also had a whole bunch of early Sebadoh tracks, including Cyster, which I liked a lot. Plus I loved the shit out of Mystery Tramps' The Trip, though I don't think I ever heard anything else by the band. Kind of CVB-esque.

The label, Leopard Gecko put out some early Seaweed stuff, a Treehouse single that I remember half liking, cool stuff by an Melvins-y Oly band called Dangermouse and a Barbed Wire Dolls 45 that's still a guilty pleasure (vaguely reminiscent of The Cult).

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a bleak, sometimes frightening portrait of ceiling cat (contenderizer), Sunday, 11 October 2009 21:33 (sixteen years ago)

Apologize for the terrible prose/grammar there. And elsewhere.

a bleak, sometimes frightening portrait of ceiling cat (contenderizer), Sunday, 11 October 2009 21:34 (sixteen years ago)

the 'fuck pussy galore' cd has at least five tracks that would appeal to fans of the imperial-era stuff. i think it's pretty easy to find cheap secondhand

i just remembered that courtney love did a cover of 'skinhead girl' that i don't think i've ever heard, i should seek it out for laffs

sound of contusion (electricsound), Sunday, 11 October 2009 21:37 (sixteen years ago)

those Sebadoh tracks are now on the Domino reissue of Freed Weed (xpost)

sleeve, Sunday, 11 October 2009 21:44 (sixteen years ago)

Picked up a copy of the Isabel Bishop EP at the shoppe this morning- - love love love this version of the song & also the Marine Girls cover. I wish I had access to it right now, actually, but it is buried in a box somewhere..

cervix-a-lot (Pillbox), Sunday, 11 October 2009 21:54 (sixteen years ago)

Aaaaand this afternoon I picked up BPM, just to get full coverage of the circa-Imperial singles & cetera (OCD kicking in hard). Nice that this stuff is so easily available used in indie shops. Again, the entire whoosh of songs they released between late 1990 and early '93 is just incredible. Sudden outpourings of all-genius material in otherwise uneven careers are strange. Welcome, but strange...

a bleak, sometimes frightening portrait of ceiling cat (contenderizer), Monday, 12 October 2009 01:12 (sixteen years ago)

Why why why hasn't some aspiring rapper sampled "Champion Nines" (off Imperial)?????

Mr. Snrub, Monday, 12 October 2009 01:22 (sixteen years ago)

[nabisco]=Nabisco? Why do you hide under a different name? What's the point if everyone recognizes you anyway? Is this a quiz show?

― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Tuesday, August 27, 2002 6:42 PM (7 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
N****h has googling fears, Alex -- it's to do with a thread he posted on that his mother found, but the thread itself wasn't the type of thing you'd necessarily talk to your mother about. ;-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, August 27, 2002 6:50 PM (7 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Ha ha old ILM.

Mr. Snrub, Monday, 12 October 2009 01:23 (sixteen years ago)

Ha ha also on the new ILX automatically substituting nabisco's real name on the quote.

Mr. Snrub, Monday, 12 October 2009 01:24 (sixteen years ago)

Every time an Unrest thread pops up, I go to the teenbeat site and find out that there's new product. No exception now: two live shows now available. May have to investigate...

dlp9001, Monday, 12 October 2009 02:25 (sixteen years ago)

Hey, just noticed that the copy of B.P.M. I picked up the other day tacks on three bonus tracks at the end: a three-minute version of "Make-Out Club", a short acoustic tune with Bridget singing, and a very brief instrumental version of Styx's "Sailing Away" (more a quote than a proper cover, but whatever). These songs aren't mentioned on the packaging or on Allmusic/Amazon/Discogs, so I'm wondering what the Bridget song is. Anyone know?

from alcoholism to fleshly concerns (contenderizer), Wednesday, 14 October 2009 19:49 (sixteen years ago)

keep repeating keep repeating

cutty, Wednesday, 14 October 2009 20:03 (sixteen years ago)

Turns out it's an acoustic version of Light Command, another Perfect Teeth track. Dunno where it comes from, or if it appears anwhere else but on BPM.

from alcoholism to fleshly concerns (contenderizer), Wednesday, 14 October 2009 20:12 (sixteen years ago)

perfect teeth is great!

― scott seward, Sunday, October 11, 2009 12:31 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark

鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 14 October 2009 21:08 (sixteen years ago)

everything post KK Blaxploitation through to the end is near flawless, inc Perfect Teeth

Remove This Vile Tweet (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 14 October 2009 21:15 (sixteen years ago)

one of my favorite bands ever, so creative

Remove This Vile Tweet (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 14 October 2009 21:16 (sixteen years ago)

It's being weirdly underplayed in the official announcement from the Wedding Present, but their Seamonsters anniversary tour in North America next year has Mr. Robinson doing Unrest songs as the opening act. Minor detail there!

https://media.brooklynvegan.com/xxrzsfjkyw/uploads/2025/10/27/wedding-present-seamonsters-tour-2026.jpg

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 28 October 2025 22:55 (seven months ago)

@Ned: Mark's opening for Coffin Prick and Fred Frith in a couple weeks in the Richmond. First SF show since Perfect Teeth.

imperial frfr (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 28 October 2025 23:13 (seven months ago)

https://www.4-star-movies.com/calendar-of-events/live-music-fred-frith-coffin-prick-mark-robinson

imperial frfr (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 28 October 2025 23:14 (seven months ago)

Quite a combo there!

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 28 October 2025 23:18 (seven months ago)

Mark has been doing solo medley sets where he tries to jam in as many Unrest songs as he can do in a row

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 29 October 2025 03:43 (seven months ago)

man i gotta say that does not sound good

a (waterface), Wednesday, 29 October 2025 12:08 (seven months ago)

not to yuck other people's yum but i don't think i could sit through that and i love unrest

a (waterface), Wednesday, 29 October 2025 12:08 (seven months ago)

I dunno, I think I'd totally be up for a huge medley of Unrest tunes played at "Cath Carroll" pace.

henry s, Wednesday, 29 October 2025 13:56 (seven months ago)

Mark Robinson is a master of the 30-second song snippet, as evidenced by his Cotton Candy turn.

henry s, Wednesday, 29 October 2025 13:58 (seven months ago)

I mean if I'm going to see the Wedding Present anyway (and I am)...

fluffy tufts university (f. hazel), Wednesday, 29 October 2025 14:06 (seven months ago)

Saw him a few weeks ago. Was introduced by a comedian talking about Gen X music stuff and laying out the rules of what the performance would be - 50 songs in 30 minutes (or was it 30 songs in 50 minutes?). MR was pretty delightful/charming, but a little goes a long way / the songs really do blur together, when played truly solo. YMMV of course!

mr.raffles, Wednesday, 29 October 2025 14:31 (seven months ago)

somebody posted a video of him doing the medley set and it rules

sleeve, Wednesday, 29 October 2025 14:41 (seven months ago)

I would take either the medley or 50 mins of "Hydroplane", nothing in between.

imperial frfr (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 29 October 2025 15:36 (seven months ago)

ha oh look I posted that video upthread six months ago

sleeve, Wednesday, 29 October 2025 15:42 (seven months ago)

one month passes...

Steve Shasta r u going to this: https://www.4-star-movies.com/calendar-of-events/live-music-fred-frith-coffin-prick-mark-robinson

Οὖτις, Saturday, 6 December 2025 16:05 (six months ago)

I've really been on the fence because I'm stuck downtown until 7:30pm.

But if YOU are going perhaps that tips the scales. Plus that lineup is so weird and funny.

imperial frfr (Steve Shasta), Friday, 12 December 2025 16:32 (five months ago)

Robinson is gonna do an annual dc area holiday show with other Teenbeat acts December 28 at little Galaxy Hut in Arlington, VA

curmudgeon, Monday, 15 December 2025 22:00 (five months ago)


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