Classic or Dud - "Everlong" by the Foo Fighters

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yup.

now this kind of thing is called emo thankyouverymuchjimmyeatworld

― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 11 November 2004 03:31 (twenty-one years ago)

ugh jimmyeatshit

― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 November 2004 03:33 (twenty-one years ago)

i like a few Jimmy hits (JEW hits?) despite their inanity

ooh I thought of another contender. Weezer's "Only In Dreams"

― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 11 November 2004 03:34 (twenty-one years ago)

only in dreams is too long. maybe El Scorcho.

― Ian John50n (orion), Thursday, 11 November 2004 03:34 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah "only in dreams" is a power ballad, but el scorcho (like most weezer) is too happy for krakow, nonetheless.

i should probably just be calling this stuff proto-mall-emo

― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 11 November 2004 03:37 (twenty-one years ago)

what other alt-rock hits could be the soundtrack of "tell her...just tell her...now! TELL HER NOW!!!!"?

― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 11 November 2004 03:41 (twenty-one years ago)

???

― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 November 2004 03:42 (twenty-one years ago)

maybe its my own adolescent context but I always hear "Everlong" and "Somebody To Shove" as these relentless, anxious odes to sexual/romantic frustration. Pacing outside the house, debating whether to talk to that girl. HIGH drama. Brian Krakow on the verge of tears thinking about Angela Chase drama.

― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 11 November 2004 03:44 (twenty-one years ago)

watch less tv tone

― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 November 2004 03:47 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm taking it for granted that grohl drums on 'everlong' - he does yeah? cuz that's a good chunk of what sells it for me

― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 November 2004 03:48 (twenty-one years ago)

he probably does. that sunny day guy quit cuz Grohl was being domineering during the making of the album.

p.s. I don't watch tv now. This was high school.

― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 11 November 2004 03:50 (twenty-one years ago)

though the idea of liking this track for the drums...man, it's about pain.

― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 11 November 2004 03:51 (twenty-one years ago)

corny

― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 November 2004 03:56 (twenty-one years ago)

haha - "i've got blisters on my fingers!"

― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 November 2004 03:57 (twenty-one years ago)

What the f*** is wrong w/ Jimmy Eat Stuff?

&, yeah, Foo w/ Dave drumming, but not doing everything else, is choice. (DG drums on everything except for the first track, I think.) (The drumming kinda blows on the newest Foo.) Just don't pay attention to ANY of the lyrics, though. But lyrics are bunk, right, Nedward?

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 11 November 2004 04:23 (twenty-one years ago)

how good is the second foo fighters lp? i enjoyed the first well enough even if it was one of the more hilariously overrated albums of all time (at the time)

― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 November 2004 04:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I loved the second one when I was twelve or so. Totally loved. It got really scratched up and I threw it out when I was sixteen or seventeen.. never re-bought it, but if I saw it cheap I would in a heartbeat. Their first album too, which I only originally had on cassette.

― Ian John50n (orion), Thursday, 11 November 2004 04:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Their finest song by a country mile. I'll never forget driving from Oak Park back into Chicago about 6-7 years ago via the dicey West Side roads at 3am, drunker than I ought to have been, blasting the fuck out of this on the radio, marvelling at the ho's, pimps and open-air drug dealing going on on Augusta Blvd.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Thursday, 11 November 2004 04:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I wondered if it was Grohl who was drumming. The drumming is fantastic.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 November 2004 05:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Just don't pay attention to ANY of the lyrics, though. But lyrics are bunk, right, Nedward?

Most wise.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 11 November 2004 06:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Even though most rock is reprehensible, "Everlong" is actually a timeless classic. Really. I should own "Colour & The Shape" but I hated MOnkey Wrench and My Hero.

― edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 11 November 2004 06:13 (twenty-one years ago)

That song was the first and last time I reconsidered the Foo Fighters and thought "hey, maybe they're actually good."

― Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 11 November 2004 06:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Anthony is fucking on re: "Somebody to Shove". I like it even more than "Everlong". And the world would be a better place if "Brian Krakow-rock" was acceptable parlance in music criticism.

― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Thursday, 11 November 2004 14:08 (twenty-one years ago)

KRAKOW! KRAKOW!

The 2nd Foo album is solid. I liked it a lot more when it came out (duh), but it's not bad by any means. Light years better than the initial salvo in my book. (Though I can't understand hating "Monkey Wrench".) (Ed, you lovable kook!) Diminishing returns on the 3rd & 4th, though the 4th is probably "the best" of the Foo ouevre (if you can overlook Mr. Grohl's attempts at arena-rockdom) (and Taylor Hawkins' somewhat suspect drumming) ("somewhat suspect" only because I WANT GROHL ON DRUMS).

Actually, what the hell am I saying? Colour & Shape beats all comers. The Foo best-of is going to be fantastic (though they're probably going to include "Baker Street") (weak).

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 11 November 2004 14:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Colour & Shape is the best Foo album I love Everlong and New Way Home.

― Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Thursday, 11 November 2004 14:47 (twenty-one years ago)

i feel validated by this thread. 'Everlong's bridge reminds me of the bridge to Van Halen's 'Why Can't This Be Love' which is a big factor in why i love it so.

― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 11 November 2004 14:51 (twenty-one years ago)

have to say i don't like 'somebody to shove' much tho

― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 11 November 2004 14:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Daver, Monkey Wrench is just so UGLY and unpalatable, especially that ludicrous shouty bit in the middle. I did love Walking After You but then again, he was apparently an arsehole to poor Louise around the time, so it rings a BIT hollow. No, fuck it, Walking After You is still great, and I know a few of the other album tracks - if only I could find it bloody cheap somewhere. I'd probably go with a self-mdae CDR of the songs I do like, as I seem to enjoy every second single they put out. i.e. "I'll Stick Around" but not "This Is A Call", "Generator" but not "Learn To Fly", etc etc.

― edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Finest Foo moment = "Stacked Actors"

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh please, if you're going to jab at Courtney Love, at least you should be half as good a lyricist as she is.

― edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I haven't heard "Monkeywrench" in ages but I liked it when it came out (sounds corny when I think of it my head, way cornier than "Everlong" - which, aside from chops, evidently - is a totally Jimmy Eat World template). First time I heard the word "shit" being played on the radio frequently. I dunno if it was because they didn't have a radio edit or cuz it wasn't being used in a scatalogical sense.

― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh please, if you're going to jab at Courtney Love, at least you should be half as good a lyricist as she is.

i'd argue he has shown he is on occasion, but probably not enough

― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm biased, though, I like my rock melodic, and Grohl can do it, but seemingly chooses NOT to do it in favour of these ugly, thudding over-testosteroned monstrosities like "Stacked Actors" and "Low".

― edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Courtney's a good lyricist. Excuse me for a second while I point and laugh in your face.

BAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:43 (twenty-one years ago)

KRAKOW! KRAKOW!

Two direct hits! (the first thing I thought of, too)

I think "Big Me" is regrettably overlooked in discussions like this. What a glorious, sugary sweet pop tune. Classic video as well.

― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Courtney is a great lyricist. Your laughter means nothing, though the force is admirable.

x-post- yes "Big Me" is fantastic, the Mentos send-up. The question is, was their Mentos send-up before Blink 182's Mentos joke in one of their videos?

― edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Courtney's a better plagiarist

― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, I'm not sure what B182 vid you're referring to, but unless it was pre-"Dammit" the answer is yes.

― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Thursday, 11 November 2004 16:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't really like the Foos, but Everlong is superb.

― Wooden (Wooden), Thursday, 11 November 2004 16:13 (twenty-one years ago)

The B182 video I'm referring to is "M&Ms".

― edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 11 November 2004 16:14 (twenty-one years ago)

i had totally forgotten how great "my hero" is. what a wonderful video, too! the stepladder progression in the chorus with the snare stutters is so lethargic it's great.

anyhow, as for "everlong," yes, it's the greatest mod-rock single ever. i remember the first time i ever heard it, stoned and driving around rural va with some buddies. we had just finished listening to appetite... what makes it, in order:

1) the snare skims
2) that, if heard from the distance, the verses totally sound like they are just one chord; the tonal shifts are so subtle as to almost be imperceivable
3) just subtlety from top to bottom, actually
4) it sounds like it was recorded underwater
5) grohl's voice actually sounds good! the whole numb/not trying motif works well with his voice, which is equally nonplussed
6) this is a great song to fuck to

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 11 November 2004 16:16 (twenty-one years ago)

there needs to be a "top ten songs the poster would like you to know they enjoy fucking to" thread.

― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 11 November 2004 16:20 (twenty-one years ago)

one final point: i've always closely associated fugazi's end hits (their best record, hands down) with colour and the shape; certainly the fact that they came out within a year of each other is part of it, but structurally i think they're kind similar (track sequencing in particular) and i also think that they have similar goals -- basically to make the bugger-off rock opera without seeming like they're trying to -- only the foos are a bit more gauche about it. this is prolly horseshit, but there ya go.

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 11 November 2004 16:20 (twenty-one years ago)

haha, miccio. i haven't fucked to music in 4evah. that was a college thing, and only so the girl's sweetmates wouldn't know how she liked it (to big black, actually!).

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 11 November 2004 16:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Do I need to guess which album?

1. "Stairway To Heaven" Led Zeppelin
2. "Short Dick Man" 20 Fingers Feat. Gilette
3. "November Rain" Guns'n'Roses
4. "Can I Touch You...There?" Michael Bolton
5. "Damn! I Feel Like A Woman" Shania Twain
6. "Everlong" Foo Fighters
7. "Rush Rush" Paula Abdul
8. "Sadeness Pt. 1" Enigma
9. "Mother Mother" Tracy Bonham
10. "Hypnotize" Ja Rule feat. Ashanti

― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 11 November 2004 16:24 (twenty-one years ago)

anthony you seem more like a double nickels on the dime dude to me...

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 11 November 2004 16:28 (twenty-one years ago)

43 positions in a one night stand

― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 11 November 2004 16:32 (twenty-one years ago)

People! Take 4 and 10 off Anthony's CD there and I am yours for the night... rrrr.

― edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 11 November 2004 16:37 (twenty-one years ago)

sweetmates

Unintentional hilarity.

And please, Anthony, it's "Mesmerize," not "Hypnotize".

― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:03 (twenty-one years ago)

i'd apologize for getting the name of a Ja Rule song wrong, but I'm kinda proud that I did.

― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:07 (twenty-one years ago)

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Best Foo Fighters song by a mile.

― chap, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 00:56 (eighteen years ago)

I adore "Everlong"!!!

― Tape Store, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 01:11 (eighteen years ago)

Only song of theirs I ever liked is the one that sounds like the theme from "Welcome Back, Kotter."

― Mark Rich@rdson, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 03:27 (eighteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

Definitely one of the only (if not THE only) mid-90s alt-rock songs I'd still feel comfortable putting on a regular mixtape in 2008, not just some mix that's heavy on nostalgia. It's perfect in just about every way (including the video).

― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 20 April 2008 06:28 (eighteen years ago)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=I2GX0JUnLXE

Excellent idea, bad execution.

― edwardo, Sunday, 20 April 2008 07:05 (eighteen years ago)

I didn't hate that even half as much as I thought I might.

― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 20 April 2008 07:32 (eighteen years ago)

I've heard the studio version, it's a bit rub.

― edwardo, Sunday, 20 April 2008 10:04 (eighteen years ago)

wtf is "alt" about this?

― banriquit, Sunday, 20 April 2008 10:13 (eighteen years ago)

It's no "Learn to Fly".

― Noodle Vague, Sunday, 20 April 2008 11:20 (eighteen years ago)

wtf is "alt" about this?

^ OTM

― stephen, Sunday, 20 April 2008 16:17 (eighteen years ago)

beating arcade fire at a game they're not even bold enough etc.

― blueski, Sunday, 20 April 2008 16:32 (eighteen years ago)

lol @ chaki looking like perez hilton upthread

― Alex in Baltimore, Sunday, 20 April 2008 17:16 (eighteen years ago)

four years pass...

Man, this song slays.

― Trewster Dare (jaymc), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 15:59 (thirteen years ago)

I wouldn't put this as either 'classic' or 'dud'. I mean, it's okay. It's not shit, but it doesn't blow my mind. There are Foo Fighters tracks that I like more, and all of them are on the first two albums.

― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Friday, 3 August 2012 21:04 (thirteen years ago)

just watched the video for the first time in like 10 years and that extra chorus at the end is just perfect

― diamonddave85, Friday, 3 August 2012 21:15 (thirteen years ago)

classique

― Listen to this, dad (President Keyes), Saturday, 4 August 2012 00:56 (thirteen years ago)

One of my favorite radio hits of the '90s.

― Crabbits, Saturday, 4 August 2012 01:22 (thirteen years ago)

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