They blew it. No sludge, no doom, no Crusher/Destroyer, no incredible listen-to-the-drummer-play-fills-during-the-entire-fucking-album. Just a lot of cheap Maiden and Slayer imitations.
This is like Cave In following up Jupiter with Antenna.
I'm so bummed right now.
― harshaw (jube), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 16:00 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 16:02 (twenty-one years ago)
I really wanna hear this.
Mastadon LIVE trumps Mastadon recorded, FWIW.
― ddb (ddb), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 16:10 (twenty-one years ago)
wait, how could they stop this? :(
― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 16:11 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 16:13 (twenty-one years ago)
(most of this could change by the time the record comes out - who knows if this is the final mix?)
― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 19:47 (twenty-one years ago)
― jess, Tuesday, 3 August 2004 19:51 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 19:52 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ramon D, Tuesday, 3 August 2004 21:00 (twenty-one years ago)
Wait does that sound too pissy?
― harshaw (jube), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 05:42 (twenty-one years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 16:43 (twenty-one years ago)
― roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 6 August 2004 02:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 August 2004 02:38 (twenty-one years ago)
― roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 6 August 2004 03:07 (twenty-one years ago)
I think it's interesting how up-front the vox are compared to the other two records - dude seems to be cultivating a Phil-Anselmo-in-Superjoint-guise thing, which is welcome as far as I'm concerned
I wanna see 'em live
― roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 6 August 2004 19:43 (twenty-one years ago)
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Friday, 6 August 2004 19:46 (twenty-one years ago)
― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 15:07 (twenty-one years ago)
― reed (smile), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 20:53 (twenty-one years ago)
― Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 02:44 (twenty-one years ago)
― Rock Bastard, Wednesday, 5 January 2005 05:44 (twenty-one years ago)
― william (william), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 07:54 (twenty-one years ago)
Idolator linked to this story about Brent Hinds being assaulted and hospitalized -- what the fuck?
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 15:22 (eighteen years ago)
Sounds as though he has a really bad injury. Hope it's not as serious as it sounds.
― Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 15:38 (eighteen years ago)
:(
WTF? Horrible news.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 18:05 (eighteen years ago)
That's fucked up.
― Bill Magill, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 18:37 (eighteen years ago)
Saw them this summer. March Of The Fire Ants works even better when they play the main riff with their guitars behind their heads.
Too bad about Brent.. Hope everything works out.
― MRZBW, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 19:21 (eighteen years ago)
Interesting article in the new RS titled "Head Injury Inspires New Melodic Mastodon Album: With Brendan O'Brien on board, the headbangers craft "classic rock" sound"
Brent Hinds was attacked and cracked his head open during a drunken altercation following the MTV VMAs. He suffered brain hemorrhaging, then was plagued by vertigo for eight months. He said he wrote the music for the next album during that time with his acoustic guitar and some marijuana. "I wanted a more melodic, easy-listening situation, and definitely came from having head trauma."
If that isn't a Spinal Tap worthy quote, I don't know what is!
Brann Dailor confirms they want to make a broader, "classic-rock-sounding record." They met their producer backstage at a Bruce Springsteen concert of all places.
The article mentions three of the album's seven songs -- "Quintessence" with spacey synthesizers and vocal harmonies, "Divinations" that comes on like Master Of Puppets era Metallica but with soaring vocals and a bright chorus, and "Oblivion," a sinister, multitempo prog-metal epic with a bluesy guitar solo.
It will continue the elements theme, exploring air, ghosts and the ethereal world. The group has talked about eventually combining the releases into a box set called The Elements, heh.
So, lots of openings there to talk about shark-jumping and whatnot. However, I'm just glad they won't be repeating themselves. Hopefully it'll be great.
― Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 13:21 (seventeen years ago)
He got a kicking the other week there too.
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 7 October 2008 13:29 (seventeen years ago)
tales from topographic...
― REIGN IN FUDGE (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 7 October 2008 13:46 (seventeen years ago)
He exhibits many hallmarks of being an absolute prick. I'll still look forward to this - even if it's bad I don't think it'll qualify as shark jumping as Blood Mountain was so great it wouldn't really represent a downward curve, if you get me
― The Slash My Father Wrote (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 7 October 2008 13:49 (seventeen years ago)
I thought Blood Mountain was great, So I am looking forward to this. Remission is my favourite but there's no point in trying to remake it when simply it couldn't be as good.
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 7 October 2008 13:58 (seventeen years ago)
I thought Blood Mountain was terrible, so I expect listening to this will be like actually receiving head trauma.
― What's good for Wall Street (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 7 October 2008 14:18 (seventeen years ago)
Did you like Leviathan? I couldn't get my head round people who loved one and hated the other
― The Slash My Father Wrote (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 7 October 2008 14:37 (seventeen years ago)
Yeah I did like Leviathan. It's definitely a difference by degrees but the Blood Mountain riffs are just a little bit worse, the vocals are a lot worse, and the lyrics swing away from awesome shit like chasing a whale to kinda lame shit like made up D&D creatures.
Basically I feel like they've been simplifying the formula a bit with each release, and the LAST thing we need is another '00s band getting its classic rock on.
― What's good for Wall Street (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 7 October 2008 14:48 (seventeen years ago)
awesome shit like chasing a whale to kinda lame shit like made up D&D creatures
Haha this is some pretty definitive narcissism of small diffs to be fair. Of your other points I guess it's an 'eye of the beholder' deal but I've not listened to either for a good 18 months so hey
― The Slash My Father Wrote (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 7 October 2008 15:11 (seventeen years ago)
I'm curious to hear what a more "prog" Mastodon sounds like, so I'm going to remain hopefully optimistic for this one. Prick tendencies aside, Mastodon is one of my favorite metal bands going right now.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 15:15 (seventeen years ago)
Not much sympathy for Hinds on this thread. The guy gets his head cracked open, and everyone seems to think he had it coming. Does anyone know who did it and why?
― o. nate, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 15:37 (seventeen years ago)
That was a fight with one of System Of A Down IIRC. I read a story a few weeks ago about him putting that guy King Khan in the hospital in which he seemed fairly indefensible
― The Slash My Father Wrote (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 7 October 2008 15:48 (seventeen years ago)
Haha this is some pretty definitive narcissism of small diffs to be fair.
Yeah no doubt. I dunno, "Circle of Cysquatch" and "Colony of Birchmen" sound like Magic cards (I'm pretty sure the second one IS a Magic card). It's like they totally believed that people liked their records for some kind of high-concept narratives when in fact I just appreciated that I knew what he was talking about with "WHITE WHALE HOLY GRAIL"--simple, clear, and direct.
I haven't listened to them recently either (was hoping they were still on the iPod so I could make some points on this thread but no dice). I just feel like Remission and Leviathan had these great twisty riffs that were complicated but totally rocking and Blood Mountain was a less-engaged, more same-y version of that. There are still songs from Remission that have a "holy fuck how did they write that" quality for me, and Leviathan was a little more accessible but still in that vein. Like when there was a 5-second blues riff on Leviathan it was a nice homage and made me smile, but that should definitely NOT be their future direction. When are bands going to stop thinking that effects pedals and multi-part epics are like what you do when you grow up?
― What's good for Wall Street (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 7 October 2008 15:49 (seventeen years ago)
Oh yeah and Hinds has a lengthy track record of being a violent dick.
― What's good for Wall Street (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 7 October 2008 15:50 (seventeen years ago)
http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/news/145767-mastodons-brent-hinds-vs-king-khan-fite
― The Slash My Father Wrote (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 7 October 2008 15:55 (seventeen years ago)
yeah, dick.
blood mountain w/choruses could be kinda cool. since there really aren't any on that album.
― REIGN IN FUDGE (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 7 October 2008 16:12 (seventeen years ago)
MASTODON: Deluxe Vinyl Box Set To See Release
A collectors edition MASTODON vinyl box set is set to be issued on November 18th via Relapse Records. This box set will be a one-time pressing strictly limited to 1,000 copies and include nine 180-gram LP’s encapsulating the legendary band’s entire history of recordings.
http://shop.relapse.com/dbimages/sleeves/7025LP_216.jpgThe box set will be cased in a heavy duty, foil stamped black box and include the following:
~ The vinyl pressing of MASTODON’s ‘06 Reprise debut Blood Mountain on expanded double LP.
~ The band’s critically-acclaimed 2004 release Leviathan, expanded to double LP.
~ The band covers of “The Bit” (MELVINS), “Emerald” (THIN LIZZY), and “Orion” (METALLICA).
~ A live record documenting the band’s performance as part of the Relapse Contamination Festival in 2003. This LP is, and will remain, exclusive to this box set.
~ The band’s reissue of early recordings, Call Of The Mastodon.
~ The final vinyl pressing of the original Lifesblood recording.
The box set will also include an embroidered logo patch, a vinyl sticker set, as well as a custom MASTODON turntable mat. All of these items will be exclusive to this box set, never to appear outside of it. For more information on this release, including pre-order options, please visit http://shop.relapse.com/store/product.aspx?ProductID=30891
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 10 November 2008 20:29 (seventeen years ago)
Non us versions have more expensive shipping obviously
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 10 November 2008 20:30 (seventeen years ago)
price
US $240Canada $245Mexico $265Overseas $275
All Boxsets will be shipped via UPS or Fed Ex.
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 10 November 2008 20:33 (seventeen years ago)
lol @ "entire history of recordings"
― BIG HOOS' macaroni is off the motherfucking chain (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 10 November 2008 20:52 (seventeen years ago)
Mastodon does its part for military-contractor-in-Iraq-themed video game.
― jaybabcock, Monday, 10 November 2008 22:32 (seventeen years ago)
well that sucks.
― BIG HOOS' macaroni is off the motherfucking chain (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 10 November 2008 22:38 (seventeen years ago)
It'd be cool if someone could ask them what the um heck they were thinking re "Army of Two." I tried, and was rebuffed by "management." Cool, duderz.
― jaybabcock, Monday, 10 November 2008 22:48 (seventeen years ago)
that my ATL-based parents were aware of it and texted me because they knew i saw mastodon over a decade ago [during their "our son only listens to bands with animal names in them" phase] - he clearly hit when it was meant and mattered.
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Friday, 22 August 2025 06:06 (nine months ago)
Not that they need it now, and basically never did, but here's my 2007 Collegtown alt-weekly defense and celebration of them, when some metal purists were like, oh they're bringing the trendies in, they're not really metal anymore and never were: https://mycolone.blogspot.com/2025/07/mastodon-polymathic-rawkissers-of.html They were coming to town, Columbus OH, so I took the opp.
― dow, Friday, 22 August 2025 17:57 (nine months ago)
Remission - Leviathan - Blood Mountain - Crack the Skye was an incredible, incredible run.
This might sound weird, but every time I saw Mastodon after 2010, their live mix was abysmal. Trebly, not heavy, kind of quiet. Even as recently as the Hushed & Grim tour.
― A. Begrand, Friday, 22 August 2025 19:37 (nine months ago)
truly amazing first 4 albums. I saw them play the pitchfork fest in Chicago right around Blood Mountain and it was easily one of the biggest highlights of the whole thing.
― gman59, Friday, 22 August 2025 19:41 (nine months ago)
The only album they put out since then that seemed weak was The Hunter, I'd say the rest are all very solid.
― whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Friday, 22 August 2025 19:51 (nine months ago)
That said, they all lean way more toward hard rock than straight up metal, if that is a dealbreaker for you.
so bummed about this. crack the skye is such a brilliant record.
― conspiracitorial theories (stevie), Friday, 22 August 2025 21:18 (nine months ago)
and i feel what made mastodon great was the balance between the four of them
That's true, though I also thought that Brent was more equal than the rest of them, and was bummed that his voice in the band seemed to shrink in the post Crack The Skye years
― whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Friday, 22 August 2025 21:30 (nine months ago)
A Facebook post from Mikael Åkerfeldt of Opeth:
"Brent Hinds is gone. An incredible musician. A force of nature. Our friend. My friend. I got the news today from the Mastodon boys as I was having coffee with my mother and her partner. They’re talking about their plans for the upcoming weekend, but I couldn’t really hear what they were saying, to be honest. I was (and still am) overwhelmed by shock. I reached out to the boys in my band delivering the tragic news and my phone has been buzzing every 10 seconds since. There’s so much to be said about Brent. We’ve spend so much time together with him on the road. I like to think we got to know each other quite well. Brent demanded attention (and got it) every time he stepped into our dressing room or bus, which was quite often, I'd might add. Fred and him would jam backstage. I’d keep an eye on him/them and their usual tour-shenanigans to the point where Brent started calling me ”Dad”, and I was calling him ”Son”.
I have so many memories of him, most of which I can sum up as ”good times”. We often talked about stage nerves. How nervousness can be good, but also, if bad, how it can hinder your performance. The latter sensation manifested itself as a fictional person: ”Peter”. Brent would go: ”Peter was on stage tonight, and that fucker sucks ass” when he had a bad show.
It’s too soon to grieve I suppose, this hasn’t sunk in at all. I only just heard about this tragedy 5 hours ago. It’s beyond devastating, and judging from what’s being said on our private Opeth group-chat I know I can speak for the whole band.
The ”Dad-Son” thing stuck over the years. I last saw Brent when he came to our show in Atlanta (October 22, 2024). He walks in and goes ”What’s up Pops?”. It’s a very, very bright memory but it makes me numb with sadness right now, thinking about it.
We’d like to offer our warmest and most loving condolences to his family and friends, colleagues, fans, and of course to the whole Mastodon inner circle. The incredible band that was instrumental for making us and the world aware of the phenomenon that is Brent Hinds. Note that I can’t write about him in past tense just yet. He still ”is”.
I’ve included a photo of myself and Brent from our last tour together. I fail to remember where it was taken, but I remember we're singing along to Van Halen’s ”5150”. Right there, is exactly how I will remember him. Always.
Brent Hinds, rest in peace.
Love from your friends in Opeth
Mikael Åkerfeldt, August 21, 2025"
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Saturday, 23 August 2025 01:31 (nine months ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQ65pizgD9I
incredible new song, mastodon goin' hard again
― ivy., Tuesday, 2 June 2026 16:32 (one week ago)
cute little mahavishnu orchestra bit launching into their heaviest riff in some time... that's the stuff :)))))
― ivy., Tuesday, 2 June 2026 16:35 (one week ago)
kurt ballou on production!!! aaaaa
― ivy., Tuesday, 2 June 2026 16:36 (one week ago)
surprisingly good, they haven't had this energy in a while
― whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Tuesday, 2 June 2026 16:39 (one week ago)
So fucking good, very pleasantly surprised.
― better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 2 June 2026 16:51 (one week ago)
Whooa, that's awesome. Always meant to get into these guys but never did; looks like now's the time. Is this prognumetal a throwback to an old album's sound, or something new?
― TheNuNuNu, Wednesday, 3 June 2026 10:32 (one week ago)
Feels like a throwback to Blood Mountain or Leviathan.
― whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Wednesday, 3 June 2026 12:32 (one week ago)