if i had heard SY when i was 13, i would have definitely hated them.in fact i probably did when i was 23, 33, and 43 as well.i only liked them when i was 19.
also, whatever their motives, i think its a bit much that a bunch of grey hairs have posted this kid rant.
― mark e, Saturday, 7 April 2012 10:25 (twelve years ago) link
Is Ibold gonna start manning the bar at Great Jones Cafe again?again? p sure he served me less than a year ago.― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius)
I just assumed he didn't do that anymore...pretty cool he served you. I might go check it out
― Iago Galdston, Saturday, 7 April 2012 14:58 (twelve years ago) link
Sonic Youth '87, full showhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1QZAETFJ3a8
― dow, Saturday, 7 April 2012 14:59 (twelve years ago) link
"Kool Thing" was the... err.. koolest thing ever when I heard it at 13
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 13 April 2012 14:56 (twelve years ago) link
Wow, that show from '87 is great so far (halfway through). I really love "Hold That Tiger", pretty similar tracklist, but you can watch em play! Didn't see my first SY show until 97 I think, so very glad for any decent footage from those times. Thanks dow!
― grandavis, Friday, 13 April 2012 16:40 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i love that era of the band, so powerful.
― tylerw, Friday, 13 April 2012 16:46 (twelve years ago) link
Thank Tyler, he's the one who linked it from his blog. Also, I need to check this, and several other full-lengths listed on the same pagehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVL0kSBf1es&feature=related
― dow, Friday, 13 April 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago) link
Man, seems like there is quite a wormhole to disappear into. Thanks Tyler! Lee is really killing it, making my Friday.
― grandavis, Friday, 13 April 2012 16:53 (twelve years ago) link
yeah it's interesting -- i haven't watched too much footage of the band over the years, so it's cool to see who's playing what, guitar-wise. Some stuff I always assumed was Lee is actually Thurston or vice versa.
― tylerw, Friday, 13 April 2012 16:56 (twelve years ago) link
The Austin City Limits set (their part of the show is about 24") is pretty cool, although when they were on Soundstage a few years ago, a set of about the same length got really awkward, like they were bumping into each other--too many cooks...? Maybe that had something to do with the hiatus, although hadn't O'Rourke already left? Sorry I don't keep up.
― dow, Friday, 13 April 2012 17:08 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, it can be surprising as to who is playing what on the songs sometimes, though I usually have it sussed out. Was more suprising to me sometimes on later stuff, like "Rain On Tin". I had assumed, after hearing the record, that Lee played the cool ascending/descending lines at the end with O'Rourke, but was very surprised to see that it was Thurston for some reason.
― grandavis, Friday, 13 April 2012 17:24 (twelve years ago) link
what the hell does "S&D" stand for (thread title)
― broom air, Friday, 13 April 2012 17:31 (twelve years ago) link
Uhh, "Search and Destroy" I believe, as in what is great and what sucks.
― grandavis, Friday, 13 April 2012 17:34 (twelve years ago) link
Thank you, sir.
And what about "www"
I'm kidding
― broom air, Friday, 13 April 2012 17:35 (twelve years ago) link
Hah! Sure thing. Took me a while to figure out a lot of the ILM architecture/coding. Still am not sure exactly what the meaning or origin of "challops" is.
― grandavis, Friday, 13 April 2012 17:39 (twelve years ago) link
it is an argumentative seafood
― BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Friday, 13 April 2012 17:41 (twelve years ago) link
delicious, but rough on the digestive system
― tylerw, Friday, 13 April 2012 17:42 (twelve years ago) link
Thanks for clearing that up
― grandavis, Friday, 13 April 2012 18:20 (twelve years ago) link
dumb slang for "challenging opinions"
as in posters patting themselves on the back for ~~so against the grain maan~~
― dmr, Friday, 13 April 2012 18:29 (twelve years ago) link
for being
just finished the SY biography Goodbye 20th Century. stuff about their early career was really fascinating but it sorta devolved by the end into "and then they made this album. and after that tour, started this next album."
also bittersweet since the back of the jacket is all about how they're one of rock's long-lived success stories and such an enduring couple :/
― dmr, Friday, 13 April 2012 18:33 (twelve years ago) link
Ah (I had kinda figured out the context of it, but never would have figured out "challenging opinions", though it looks so obvious now).
Didn't mean for "Thanks for clearing that up" to sound so grumpy, I thought the answers were funny btw. Was also kinda decided on never asking what challops actually meant, but in the spirit of the S&D question went ahead and threw it out there.
― grandavis, Friday, 13 April 2012 18:37 (twelve years ago) link
Nothing about how boring a drummer SS became...stopped playing all those toms circa 1992
Nothing about how boring a 'songwriter' TM became and how samey all those albums became
― Master of Treacle, Saturday, 14 April 2012 04:37 (twelve years ago) link
it looks like the fake album reviews my joke band puts in our liner notes.
― billstevejim, Saturday, 14 April 2012 05:16 (twelve years ago) link
regarding the teen fanmail...
― billstevejim, Saturday, 14 April 2012 05:17 (twelve years ago) link
i think the eternal makes better sense live? i respected it rather than loved it when it came out, but they played a bunch off it in london last new years eve and it really blew my mind.
― I accidentally sonned your dome (stevie), Saturday, April 7, 2012 4:42 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark
yeah The Eternal songs generally all sounded really great live. if it turns out to be the last proper SY album it's a good one to go out on, kinda underrated.
― some dude, Saturday, 14 April 2012 08:08 (twelve years ago) link
was just thinking about the time some friends and i brought hash joints into SY's june 2009 show at the 9:30 club and lit up like three rows from the stage. everyone around us inched away and one my friends got kicked out. thurston smirked
― you are my capitalism (spazzmatazz), Friday, 15 February 2013 18:12 (eleven years ago) link
rip sonic youth
ha i was at that show too, think i was way off to the (audience's) left? don't remember if i saw smoke in the crowd.
one fun thing at that show was toward the end of "Massage The History," people just started clapping to the rhythm of the song even though it was supposed to be dying down at that point, usually that kind of thing annoys me but it was kind of cool and spontaneous.
― weed, tumblr whites and wein (some dude), Friday, 15 February 2013 18:17 (eleven years ago) link
gave The Eternal a good listen on a road trip a few weeks ago, it's weird to think that it may be the last one.
― sleeve, Friday, 15 February 2013 18:25 (eleven years ago) link
it's really good imo, i kind of hope that if anything good comes of this being the possible end is that The Eternal may eventually gain a better rep because of that.
― weed, tumblr whites and wein (some dude), Friday, 15 February 2013 18:30 (eleven years ago) link
it's pretty solid -- though yeah it is weird to think of it as the "final" SY album. i have this feeling they'll pop up on the festival circuit in 2-3 years, you know, headlining p-fork to great fanfare. maybe i'm wrong!
― tylerw, Friday, 15 February 2013 18:41 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, who knows. most band hiatuses and triumphant reunions have less delicate social dynamics than the end of a marriage.
― weed, tumblr whites and wein (some dude), Friday, 15 February 2013 18:46 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, true. did they actually get divorced? wasn't sure if it was just a separation. AND THEY'LL GET BACK TOGETHER OMG.
― tylerw, Friday, 15 February 2013 18:58 (eleven years ago) link
the chelsea moving light album is excellent
― SOYLENT GREEN IS SHEEPLE (stevie), Saturday, 16 February 2013 07:45 (eleven years ago) link
took the time machine out for a spin today, listening to Evol, Sister & Daydream Nation all day today
they feel kinda perfect in this period. I love Goo and Dirty too, but fuck. yeah.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 20:10 (eleven years ago) link
Dirty Goo
― nostormo, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 20:13 (eleven years ago) link
I don't know if you've heard the Live In Chicago album recorded in 1985 (but released last year) - it's dead exciting and gives me the same feeling I had when I first heard them... fuck's sake... 27 years ago. They're also planning on making this the first of a series of 'classic' Sonic Youth concert live albums to cover what they consider to be all the main points of their career.
― Doran, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 20:27 (eleven years ago) link
I usually listen either to podcasts or pop/dance music at the gym, but I put on Dirty the other day, and it was kind of awesome. I biked so fast.
― jaymc, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 20:38 (eleven years ago) link
xpost - I haven't heard it, I will def check it out since I'm in the 'zone'
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 20:42 (eleven years ago) link
They're also planning on making this the first of a series of 'classic' Sonic Youth concert live albums to cover what they consider to be all the main points of their career.
Sounds like what they did 20 years ago through their fan club?Sonic DeathGila Monster JamboreeWalls Have EarsHold That TigerGoo Demos...?
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 20:54 (eleven years ago) link
I also have this thing where whenever I listen to Goo I have to listen to Dirty immediately after. I had (sadly chopped versions of) them on Side A & side B of a cassette in high school and I'd just listen to it over and over. They feel like a double album to me now, haha.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 21:23 (eleven years ago) link
My favorite SY albums are "Goo" and "Daydream Nation."
Which means that I envision in a world where Sonic Youth are a pop band.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 22:33 (eleven years ago) link
not such a bad world
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 22:33 (eleven years ago) link
No, but I wonder if in this world where Sonic Youth is a pop band who is the noise band?
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 22:34 (eleven years ago) link
Albert: As far as I know these are going to be as yet officially unreleased full length concert recordings from their own archive of full gigs, i.e. like the Smart Bar CD from last year.
― Doran, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 22:37 (eleven years ago) link
Sounds like what they did 20 years ago through their fan club?Sonic DeathGila Monster JamboreeWalls Have EarsHold That TigerGoo Demos...? --Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli)
Live at the Continental Club
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Thursday, 21 March 2013 00:34 (eleven years ago) link
I don't know how I feel about The Eternal in general, but Anti-Orgasm was a huge jam. I got into Sonic Youth all over again after I heard that.
― kaleb h. (Everything You Like Sucks), Thursday, 21 March 2013 00:52 (eleven years ago) link
I don't know if you've heard the Live In Chicago album recorded in 1985 (but released last year) - it's dead exciting
captures that moment when the plane leaves the runway and you sense the earth falling away and see the clouds surround
― screen scraper (m coleman), Thursday, 21 March 2013 01:02 (eleven years ago) link
^^^This is a great way of putting it.
― Doran, Thursday, 21 March 2013 08:45 (eleven years ago) link