MAD POLL, LOST YER WAY – ILM Artist Poll #16 – The Rolling Stones RESULTS THREAD

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ha. point being, i ruled the above out on the basis of "too offensive"

it's easy to forget how "edgy" dudes were in their day. my gf grew up in a funk/soul/gospel household and is relatively new to the notion of enjoying music made by white people. she's coming round on the Stones based on a) stolen from black people and b) "winter," but remarked last night in re "sweet virginia" whoa they did swear a lot huh? and i'm like "and that's the lyrics you can make out." then put on "star star"

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:19 (fourteen years ago)

Exile is probably one of the first major rock records w/substantial profanity in the lyrics.

Mike Love Costume Jewelry on Etsy (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:25 (fourteen years ago)

damn, this is really low for Under My Thumb. does Heart of Stone even stand a chance anymore?

gospodin simmel, Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:26 (fourteen years ago)

I don't have much of a feeling on Under My Thumb except I don't really like it. I find it kinda, skeevy? Something. I hate the line about she's a siamese cat of a girl, it just gets in my head and blehhhh yuk.

The sexism? I mean, you could argue that they've had that same basic pose for their whole career, it's kind of stupid to just hone in on one song. You form a band with a bunch of oversexed horndogs, that's what happens.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:28 (fourteen years ago)

I just heard "No Scrubs" again. Still far more sexist than "Under My Thumb."

― rogermexico., Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:33 PM (4 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

wtf

JIM THOMETHEUS (zachlyon), Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:29 (fourteen years ago)

say whatnow

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:31 (fourteen years ago)

love "2000 light years from home", was my #2 (though largely for strategic reasons). one of the few genuinely psychedelic stones stones that actually works.

love "brown sugar", too, but didn't vote for it. exposure fatigue, i guess, cuz it's a hell of a lot of fun.

"under my thumb" is brilliant full stop & brilliantly nasty (those marimbas! "sweetest ... pet in the world"), but it's always irritated the shit out of me, so i cut it w prejudice.

preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:32 (fourteen years ago)

and yeah, boggled by the "no scrubs" comment

preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:33 (fourteen years ago)

xpost we can discuss it in this thread if u like: what is sexist, exactly, about TLC's "No Scrubs"?

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:33 (fourteen years ago)

Wow, voting "2000 Light Years ..." #2 for strategic reasons is pretty heavy. Interested to see just how gamed other people's ballots are.

grandavis, Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:36 (fourteen years ago)

feel like i walked into /mra

JIM THOMETHEUS (zachlyon), Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:36 (fourteen years ago)

I'm still trying to understand why I included "Who's Driving Your Plane?" on my ballot

Iago Galdston, Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:37 (fourteen years ago)

I don't want no "No Scrubs" discussion itt

some dude, Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:37 (fourteen years ago)

although i'm kind of amazed that thread doesn't bring up Ellen Willis: http://jezebel.com/5797747/the-willis-test-is-the-new-bechdel-test

this is prob the wrong thread for it, but the willis test strikes me as nonsense. for one thing, i could see a woman singing "wild world" to her (young, naive and handsome toyboy) lover. make a good marianne faithful song, imo. for another, lots of not-sexist songs wouldn't work terribly well with the genders reversed: "street fighting man", for instance.

preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:39 (fourteen years ago)

^ more crap that doesn't belong itt

preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:39 (fourteen years ago)

2000 light years was my #3 for the reason that it has always been one of my favorite stones songs

buzza, Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:40 (fourteen years ago)

see ppl this is why I didnt vote Under My Thumb

a lot of seriously talentless bassists out there (loves laboured breathing), Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:40 (fourteen years ago)

i did!

some dude, Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:40 (fourteen years ago)

i could see a woman singing "wild world" to her (young, naive and handsome toyboy) lover

Concrete Blonde's "Joey" was not yet dreamt of in Ellen Willis' 1971 philosophy

da croupier, Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:40 (fourteen years ago)

anyway, rolling stones - great band!

da croupier, Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:41 (fourteen years ago)

anyway re frank's comment in the under my thumb thread basically saying it's all ironic/in character -- this might be true and i'm typically willing to believe it, but i'm so sick of it. feel like this is basically the defense used every single time an old rocker is accused of being shitty and there's no way it's always true. people really need to be able to fathom the possibility that their favorite decrepit rock stars were shitty people in the 70s.

JIM THOMETHEUS (zachlyon), Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:42 (fourteen years ago)

Did not mean to imply that "2000 Light Years ..." was not awesome! Just interested in the strategic poll phenomena. Pretty much all of these songs are great, probably why there isn't much hand-wringing going on with this poll compared to the others I've taken part in.

grandavis, Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:43 (fourteen years ago)

Wow, voting "2000 Light Years ..." #2 for strategic reasons is pretty heavy. Interested to see just how gamed other people's ballots are.

not saying i don't love the song! i do love it, but considering there were like 40 songs i absolutely HAD to vote for and no way to for me to sensibly "rank" a lot of them, my whole ballot was essentially strategic.

preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:44 (fourteen years ago)

Pretty much all of these songs are great, probably why there isn't much hand-wringing going on with this poll compared to the others I've taken part in.

yeah, i've been happy to see every song arrive, even stuff that i cut happily. except "i am waiting", i guess.

preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:49 (fourteen years ago)

22. Let It Loose – 430 points (16 votes, 2x #1)

https://www.morrisonhotelgallery.com/images/medium/DTMICKNELLCOTE.jpg
http://www.youtu.be/DyQ7YVXrCk4

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:50 (fourteen years ago)

Didn't vote for UMT but relistening to Aftermath this afternoon I'm thinking I should've. I've also realised I've really been underrating that album and Let It Bleed ('Midnight Rambler' is the key to the latter).

Gavin, Leeds, Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:52 (fourteen years ago)

jeez every song from exile huh guys

some dude, Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:52 (fourteen years ago)

Is this the best song on Exile? I think it probably is.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:52 (fourteen years ago)

oh yes, there was no way i was leaving this off my ballot--glad it's above shine a light, which this is superior to

Iago Galdston, Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:52 (fourteen years ago)

I subbed in Let It Loose for every other song on Exile that I wanted to vote for.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:53 (fourteen years ago)

#7 for me I think

a lot of seriously talentless bassists out there (loves laboured breathing), Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:55 (fourteen years ago)

my #3. this is one of those tracks that, like, i thought i was the only one, and i am so happy to find out i'm not alone. with exile the whole is obv greater than sum of parts but i think ismael is otm. it's perfect.

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:57 (fourteen years ago)

like, i'm truly astonished that it came in this high, and on the other hand it's way too low.

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:58 (fourteen years ago)

I love it towards the end when all the backup singers sort of split apart and start doing their own thing, it's glorious

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:59 (fourteen years ago)

arguably mick's finest hour as a vocal performer and lyricist.

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Thursday, 5 April 2012 19:05 (fourteen years ago)

I've been so out of it this week -- when "Let It Loose" popped up, my first thought was "damn, I wish I'd voted for that." Then I looked at my ballot and saw that I had it in my top 10. The backing vocals make this song for me.

improvised explosive advice (WmC), Thursday, 5 April 2012 19:15 (fourteen years ago)

Vanetta Fields was a backup singer for australian singer John Farnham when I was a kid & thought he was the bees knees - she's sung for everyone but she was one of the backup singers on Exile & I think she's pretty awesome

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 5 April 2012 19:18 (fourteen years ago)

John Farnham! Pretty sure Whispering Jack was the first album I ever bought.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 5 April 2012 19:20 (fourteen years ago)

I laid it on the parcel shelf during the long journey home and the sun melted a big bump in it. But it still played, unlike the 7" of Jack Your Body that was beside it and got totally wrecked.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 5 April 2012 19:23 (fourteen years ago)

He was the best thing since sliced bread in like 5th Grade. I watched that bloody whispering jack live concert vhs so many times, lol

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 5 April 2012 19:31 (fourteen years ago)

We should save this for the John Farnham poll

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 5 April 2012 19:33 (fourteen years ago)

I still have a 7" of Jack Your Body which I could tape for you. If I still had a record player. And a cassette player. And a cassette.

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 5 April 2012 19:35 (fourteen years ago)

Does it have the little 'jjjack' in the corner of the sleeve? I love that.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 5 April 2012 19:38 (fourteen years ago)

oh yes, there was no way i was leaving this off my ballot--glad it's above shine a light, which this is superior to

― Iago Galdston, Thursday, April 5, 2012 11:52 AM (53 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

feel the same, blows "shine a light" away, didn't vote for it. voted for "only" 3 exile tracks, the highest of which won't even place, i bet.

preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Thursday, 5 April 2012 19:48 (fourteen years ago)

21. Let’s Spend The Night Together – 445 points (22 votes)

http://i42.tinypic.com/tagcwh.jpg
http://www.youtu.be/OqQ9FCVmPaI

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Thursday, 5 April 2012 19:54 (fourteen years ago)

oh yeah, that one

preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Thursday, 5 April 2012 19:55 (fourteen years ago)

weird that i never even considered voting for it. dumb ol me...

preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Thursday, 5 April 2012 19:56 (fourteen years ago)

BADABADA BA BA BADADA

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 5 April 2012 19:56 (fourteen years ago)

that one and "Under My Thumb," i really sat down not thinking either had a strong possibility of making my ballot out of all the big canonical singles there wouldn't be room for, but both ultimately felt like they had to stay

some dude, Thursday, 5 April 2012 19:57 (fourteen years ago)

Let's Spend The Night Together is one that I never think of as a favorite, but I always enjoy hearing it when it comes my way

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 5 April 2012 20:01 (fourteen years ago)


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