Was/Is Morrissey Racist?

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I read this in Sainsbury's last night. There wasn't much to it. Mozzer's comments indefensible really, but at the same time I can't be arsed being bothered about them. Meanwhile, a few pages later is a full page advert announcing the fact that Mozzer's Roundhouse residency has sold out.

I liked the bit in the interview about how because of the internet, everyone's a reporter nowadays. I mean, who on earth is he talking about?

PJ Miller, Thursday, 29 November 2007 09:53 (eighteen years ago)

But the change in England is so rapid compared to the change in any other country. If you walk through Knightsbridge on any bland day of the week you won't hear an English accent

Funnily enough, he wouldn't have heard one in his own house when he was growing up as both his parents were IRISH and IMMIGRANTS. Fucking dickhead.

Tom D., Thursday, 29 November 2007 09:54 (eighteen years ago)

Next week in NME: Zucchero moans about the dilution of Italian culture by shit indie expats from the UK.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 29 November 2007 09:57 (eighteen years ago)

I mean, at least Ray Davies still lives in Britain! He can boohoo about penny farthings, chimbley sweeps and powdered eggs from day-to-day experience.

Tom D., Thursday, 29 November 2007 09:58 (eighteen years ago)

Also when he goes to America he gets shot so this may colour his opinion of abroad.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 29 November 2007 09:59 (eighteen years ago)

Racist?
Bengali In Platforms - questionable, I put it down to bad phrasing myself.
National Front Disco - no
Asian Rut - no, but arguably quite naieve.
Did anyone see Andrew Collins pop up on the SOTCAA forum? He basically said the whole Morrissey = racist thing was the result of a slow news day and a misjudged gesture by Moz himself...

-- DG, Sunday, 3 February 2002 01:00 (5 years ago) Bookmark Link

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 29 November 2007 10:02 (eighteen years ago)

Andrew Collins and SOTCAA = the kind of British culture we must do our utmost to save

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 29 November 2007 10:04 (eighteen years ago)

I find them quaint and amusing. But they are a memory now.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 29 November 2007 10:05 (eighteen years ago)

SOTCAA was the only kind of British culture worth saving.

King Boy Pato, Thursday, 29 November 2007 10:08 (eighteen years ago)

Some of the Patos Are Amusing

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 29 November 2007 10:08 (eighteen years ago)

Well put.

King Boy Pato, Thursday, 29 November 2007 10:10 (eighteen years ago)

Perhaps Morrissey is hoping England could be more like, say, France, where they preserve their national identity by putting all the immigrants where no one can see them? That works really well.

Matt DC, Thursday, 29 November 2007 10:34 (eighteen years ago)

TBF you can't move on French radio for Hip Hop tho.

Most of it about how shit it is being black in France.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 29 November 2007 10:36 (eighteen years ago)

Somebody needs to break into his kitchen and see if he has a Ronaldinho bottle opener. That would clear up straight away whether he's racist or not.

aldo, Thursday, 29 November 2007 10:39 (eighteen years ago)

Perhaps Morrissey is hoping England could be more like, say, France, where they preserve their national identity by putting all the immigrants where no one can see them?

You mean in the French national football team?

Tom D., Thursday, 29 November 2007 10:39 (eighteen years ago)

Saying "immigrants are diluting our culture" kinda clears up whether he's racist or not.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 29 November 2007 10:41 (eighteen years ago)

You mean in the French national football team?

Elephant in room.

Matt DC, Thursday, 29 November 2007 10:42 (eighteen years ago)

World Cups and Euro Championships in trophy cabinet

Tom D., Thursday, 29 November 2007 10:43 (eighteen years ago)

In my country, immigrants are diluting our culture. For the better.

Please pass judgement on me asap, kthx.

King Boy Pato, Thursday, 29 November 2007 10:43 (eighteen years ago)

1p3 is not a country
the noise board are not immigrants

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Thursday, 29 November 2007 10:45 (eighteen years ago)

I say arrest Noizers and send them where they came from. 1p3 for the 1p3ers!

King Boy Pato, Thursday, 29 November 2007 10:47 (eighteen years ago)

Can someone find that dude that wrote this awful blogpost for The Guardian during the World Cup, saying that France should beat Italy in the World Cup final because of the number of black players on their team shows how France has always been a bastion of liberal egalitarianism, ignoring the fact that the reason that France has a half-black national team is due to 400 years of colonialist oppression.

He then went on to say that Ian Wright was an "intelligent" football pundit. Shit was jokes.

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 29 November 2007 10:47 (eighteen years ago)

The reason that Italy doesn't have a half-black national team is because they could never get their shit together.

King Boy Pato, Thursday, 29 November 2007 10:49 (eighteen years ago)

honestly, i dont see how someone who cares about their country and wants to keep the national culture alive is automatically seen as a racist. if this was an african or asian country and someone was talking about wanting to protect it from western influence, who would bat an eyelid?

titchyschneiderMk2, Thursday, 29 November 2007 10:52 (eighteen years ago)

if this was an african or asian country and someone was talking about wanting to protect it from western influence, who would bat an eyelid?

the state department

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Thursday, 29 November 2007 10:53 (eighteen years ago)

I'm sick of African pop stars complaining about immigration.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 29 November 2007 10:54 (eighteen years ago)

He cares about country so much he's lived abroad for 10 years? Nice work if you can get it.

Tom D., Thursday, 29 November 2007 10:54 (eighteen years ago)

Also why when hip-hop recording artist "Fifty Cent" says the n-word in his chart smashes he's awarded with Grammies and gold records, but when I say it at my local pub I'm barred? Seems like it's one rule for blacks and another for the rest of us.
xxxp

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 29 November 2007 10:54 (eighteen years ago)

i say we cut off the funding.

Frogman Henry, Thursday, 29 November 2007 10:55 (eighteen years ago)

Where's Jagger to give the colonialist viewpoint on all this?

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 29 November 2007 10:56 (eighteen years ago)

Mick Jagger is resident in the Turks and Caicos Islands for tax purposes.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 29 November 2007 10:58 (eighteen years ago)

Last time I looked he was sitting, quill in hand, penning a yearning love letter on the back of a slave.

Matt DC, Thursday, 29 November 2007 10:58 (eighteen years ago)

If you say the N word, you get arrested.

For impersonating a police office.

I thangyew.

Mark G, Thursday, 29 November 2007 10:59 (eighteen years ago)

Actually maybe Morrissey does care about this country, after all he's spared us 10 years of Morrissey. I thangYEW.

Tom D., Thursday, 29 November 2007 11:01 (eighteen years ago)

"He cares about country so much he's lived abroad for 10 years?"

he moved away because he saw the way things in this once glorious country were heading. if it wasnt for the erosion of traditional english culture, we might still be able to boast one of its true exponents (mr moz, in case you were unsure) right here where he belongs.

titchyschneiderMk2, Thursday, 29 November 2007 11:03 (eighteen years ago)

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Frogman Henry, Thursday, 29 November 2007 11:03 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.buckeyeinstitute.org/uploaded_images/Head%20in%20Hands.jpg

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 29 November 2007 11:04 (eighteen years ago)

xxp
best post ever

Frogman Henry, Thursday, 29 November 2007 11:04 (eighteen years ago)

"If you say the N word, you get arrested."

another problem you see. if i listen to my timbaland album in my car (british made, in case you were wondering), i hear the n word used copiously, yet if a nice young lady like emily parr says it, she is made an example of. double standards? i believe so.

titchyschneiderMk2, Thursday, 29 November 2007 11:05 (eighteen years ago)

we might still be able to boast one of its true exponents (mr moz, in case you were unsure)

What, that Paddy bastard?

Tom D., Thursday, 29 November 2007 11:05 (eighteen years ago)

"he moved away because he saw the way things in this once glorious country were heading. if it wasnt for the erosion of traditional english culture, we might still be able to boast one of its true exponents (mr moz, in case you were unsure) right here where he belongs."

seriously i cannot get over how fantastic this post is

xp stop trying to top it

Frogman Henry, Thursday, 29 November 2007 11:06 (eighteen years ago)

you confuse me, titchy.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Thursday, 29 November 2007 11:06 (eighteen years ago)

OKAY WHICH OF YOU SMART-ARSES HAS GOT A FAKE TITCHY LOGIN?

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 29 November 2007 11:06 (eighteen years ago)

ah, i just saw that my dom passatino made a similar comparison above. good to see i am not alone.

"What, that Paddy bastard?"

did you not listen to irish blood, ENGLISH HEART? no, thought not.

titchyschneiderMk2, Thursday, 29 November 2007 11:06 (eighteen years ago)

you confuse me, titchy.

-- That one guy that hit it and quit it, Thursday, 29 November 2007 11:06 (39 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

4-4-2

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 29 November 2007 11:07 (eighteen years ago)

Please tell me you are doing clumsy Martian-style irony. Please.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 29 November 2007 11:07 (eighteen years ago)

did you not listen to irish blood, ENGLISH HEART?

Do I look stupid?

Tom D., Thursday, 29 November 2007 11:08 (eighteen years ago)

YEAH WHY YOU NO RISSEN TOM SO-CALLED D

Frogman Henry, Thursday, 29 November 2007 11:08 (eighteen years ago)

Stupid irriot

Tom D., Thursday, 29 November 2007 11:09 (eighteen years ago)

http://img176.imagevenue.com/aAfkjfp01fo1i-29787/loc429/47123_Nuts03_-_Emily_Parr_122_429lo.jpg

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 29 November 2007 11:09 (eighteen years ago)


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