Lady Gaga, Pussycat Dolls and a Taxonomy of Vacuous Pop

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i think "just dance" is an all time banger but i dont know if i care much about gaga herself. i think the song is extremely well-written in terms of getting across the feeling of being really fucked up and not caring about anything but dancing. you don't really hear lyrics as straightforward as "I love this record baby but I can't see straight anymore/ Keep it cool, what's the name of this club?/ I can't remember but it's alright, a-alright" on pop radio and i think that's the song's biggest strength, esp. compared to awfully generic shit like "hot n cold" and "womanizer"

you down with challo.p.p.? (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 11 January 2009 12:25 (seventeen years ago)

it's the same reason why that veronicas song sticks out to me besides being sonically bonkers. "i feel so untouched right now" is arresting in the same manner to me as "i love this record baby but i can't see straight anymore"

you down with challo.p.p.? (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 11 January 2009 12:28 (seventeen years ago)

this is an interesting point from tim's OP

"Just Dance" reminds of "Piece of Me" but sounds so rote and bored-with-itself in comparison.

i think this is otm but (not to jump through too many backwards logic hoops here) it's kind of what makes the song attractive to me (lyrically at least). gaga seems bored with everything BUT dancing i.e. "what's the name of this club?/i can't remember but it's alright" - which i read as "this club kinda sucks but let's dance" which i like along with "i lost my phone but let's dance" and "what's the name of this record idk let's dance" etc etc

as it being sonically boring - yeah idk i could feel that. the keyboard bit at the beginning sounds exactly like lollipop/low

you down with challo.p.p.? (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 11 January 2009 12:31 (seventeen years ago)

also the radio down here has been playing the remix with kardinal offishal subs out the o donnis verse and the bridge iirc and is way better imo

you down with challo.p.p.? (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 11 January 2009 12:32 (seventeen years ago)

I really like the theme of "Just Dance" and (unusually for a pop song) I think the lyrics look a lot better written down than when they're sung.

Tim F, Sunday, 11 January 2009 13:13 (seventeen years ago)

At work, I have started a very successful rumour about Lady Gaga having a penis.

Cape of Good Hope: ILX's New Home of Cricket! (King Boy Pato), Sunday, 11 January 2009 13:29 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.newnownext.com/images/2008/08/12/ladygagatrl_1.jpg

"I don't know what you're talking about"

Tim F, Sunday, 11 January 2009 13:32 (seventeen years ago)

think some of the paint is coming off that action figure's legs

Local Garda, Sunday, 11 January 2009 13:48 (seventeen years ago)

hey Tim I don't know if you've spoken about it elsewhere but what do you think of natalie basingthwaite's "alive"? it's probably my favourite non-indie thing of '08 next to the presets..

Lemonade In Hammocks (electricsound), Sunday, 11 January 2009 23:14 (seventeen years ago)

I quite like "Alive" - of all the schaffel-pop efforts of 2008 it's the one that most openly and slavishly copies the blueprint put down by Rachel Stevens in 2004 (ironically, people used to claim Rachel of just copying Goldfrapp), but it's probably the best of the bunch too.

Tim F, Monday, 12 January 2009 01:16 (seventeen years ago)

four weeks pass...

http://idolator.com/5151472/congrats-lady-gaga-youre-more-annoying-than-katy-perry-now

on the one hand it;s nice to be proved right.

on the other, GNNNNNGGGHHHHH when will she just fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off.

lex pretend, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 21:00 (seventeen years ago)

it's weird because she is gross. who would want to have sex with her

happy house of representatives (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 21:01 (seventeen years ago)

She has ALWAYS been more annoying than Katy Perry!

nosotros niggamos (HI DERE), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 21:01 (seventeen years ago)

"I dig way down into my soul and I find that place where I was born to be an artist, and it carries me through. I am everything about what I do. Every marrow in my bones and blood is for this work. GaGa is the greatest creative journey of my life."

lex pretend, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 21:03 (seventeen years ago)

...

lex pretend, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 21:04 (seventeen years ago)

She is pretty gross.

The Reverend (rev), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 21:07 (seventeen years ago)

"I dig way down into my soul and I find that place where I was born to be an artist, and it carries me through. I am everything about what I do. Every marrow in my bones and blood is for this work. GaGa is the greatest creative journey of my life."

― lex pretend, Wednesday, February 11, 2009 3:03 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

lemme point out that she went to NYU

happy house of representatives (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 21:08 (seventeen years ago)

Just like Dalton from Road House.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 21:11 (seventeen years ago)

i am not sure why i dislike lady gaga as much as i do. as tim said, she has all the elements necessary for an infatuation for me but somehow she just pushes it all too far. as with the popstars i do like, which include britney, there still some human element i can cling to. britney became more interesting as soon as she became more human. with lady gaga it all seems a bumbling art project gone wrong. i like robotic voices but only if they are presented by something which seems human. also the name. urgh, so so so wrong.

Nathalie (stevienixed), Thursday, 12 February 2009 19:06 (seventeen years ago)

ugh hipsters?

The User Formerly Known As Pfunkboy Latterly Known as.. (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 12 February 2009 19:09 (seventeen years ago)

that quote could've come from any solo girl out there. big deal.

i like the mask she wears in the new vid (esp. as it hides her annoying hair).

O Supermanchiros (blueski), Thursday, 12 February 2009 19:11 (seventeen years ago)

I am still somewhat convinced she is a tranny.

nosotros niggamos (HI DERE), Thursday, 12 February 2009 19:40 (seventeen years ago)

I don't think so. She styles herself like one.

The Reverend (rev), Thursday, 12 February 2009 21:13 (seventeen years ago)

Oh it's very clear that she isn't, or that she's had surgery if she has, but almost everything about her screams TRANNY!

nosotros niggamos (HI DERE), Thursday, 12 February 2009 21:14 (seventeen years ago)

http://open.salon.com/files/victor_victoria%5B1%5D1229458627.jpg

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 12 February 2009 21:15 (seventeen years ago)

I might like her more of if she was a tranny. Except then I think: the drag queens who are like Lady Gaga I'm not so much into. I prefer my drag queens more... blowsy? Mrs Havisham-esque?

Which is why that chick from Scissor Sisters going solo probably would have been a better version of Lady Gaga than Lady Gaga is, esp. if she'd gone hyper-commercial too.

She'd be like the tranny version of Fergie, rather than the tranny version of Christina Aguilera's new look.

Tim F, Thursday, 12 February 2009 21:19 (seventeen years ago)

I am trying to imagine the tranny version of Fergie and all that comes to mind is:

http://a.abcnews.com/images/Entertainment/abc_alley_061212_ssh.jpg

nosotros niggamos (HI DERE), Thursday, 12 February 2009 21:21 (seventeen years ago)

fergie is already her own tranny version, surely

lex pretend, Thursday, 12 February 2009 21:22 (seventeen years ago)

Well the same applies to Christina Aguilera surely?

Tim F, Thursday, 12 February 2009 21:22 (seventeen years ago)

Maybe this points to the super-double-pointlessness of the entire Lady Gaga Project.

Tim F, Thursday, 12 February 2009 21:23 (seventeen years ago)

also:

standard lily allen interview with jonathan ross, but wait for the gaga mention at 3mins in. it's worth it.

lex pretend, Thursday, 12 February 2009 21:23 (seventeen years ago)

Maybe this points to the super-double-pointlessness of the entire Lady Gaga Project.

^^^ pretty much OTM

nosotros niggamos (HI DERE), Thursday, 12 February 2009 21:24 (seventeen years ago)

since there's not teenpop thread i'm just gonna post the video for this dope demi lovato song in here

who needs avril right??

rev. al shipley (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 19 February 2009 07:19 (seventeen years ago)

sounds like if paramore were writing songs when they were 15

rev. al shipley (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 19 February 2009 07:20 (seventeen years ago)

Woah, I really like that. The way she sings "some may say I need to be afraid of losing everything..." makes it sound deep. Deeper than the song actually is admittedly. Is the guy interviewing her supposed to be a send-up of Perez Hilton?

Tim F, Thursday, 19 February 2009 07:42 (seventeen years ago)

two weeks pass...

omg that's not her right?

Surmounter, Friday, 6 March 2009 22:29 (seventeen years ago)

oh its her

and why (roxymuzak), Friday, 6 March 2009 22:30 (seventeen years ago)

oooo
mmm
gggg

wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Friday, 6 March 2009 22:30 (seventeen years ago)

http://ultimate-ladygaga.org/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=25

and why (roxymuzak), Friday, 6 March 2009 22:31 (seventeen years ago)

EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

Surmounter, Friday, 6 March 2009 22:32 (seventeen years ago)

O_O

moonship journey to 51 (k3vin k.), Friday, 6 March 2009 22:32 (seventeen years ago)

^just as a prophylactic against any "everybody has a bad shot sometimes" comments, she looks like arthur kane in every single one of those

and why (roxymuzak), Friday, 6 March 2009 22:32 (seventeen years ago)

also she seems to be looking like that deliberately

lex pretend, Friday, 6 March 2009 22:38 (seventeen years ago)

still!

Surmounter, Friday, 6 March 2009 22:40 (seventeen years ago)

she's having a gigantic nose deliberately

and why (roxymuzak), Friday, 6 March 2009 22:41 (seventeen years ago)

that wig

wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Friday, 6 March 2009 22:42 (seventeen years ago)

ugh son

Terius (The Reverend), Friday, 6 March 2009 22:44 (seventeen years ago)

would not poke 'er face

Hateful Guard at Maryland Training School for Boys (some dude), Friday, 6 March 2009 22:47 (seventeen years ago)

speechless

Surmounter, Friday, 6 March 2009 22:48 (seventeen years ago)


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