Nina Kraviz - Nina Kraviz [2012]

This shit has live sounding drums locked to a house grid.

oh man that is just THE WORST. Live drums and house music is SO DFA

never mention the fact that there is absolutely nothing resembling live drums on this at all

all these 'criticisms' make me want to like this even more than i already do

and yea it is weird how earnest posts about an understated album have inspired so much vitriol.

i feel like i can listen to something on hessle or swamp 81 and think to myself, "i have no idea where or why anyone would listen to this stuff" but that doesn't mean i'm not willing to accept that i might have overlooked smthg or be listening to it in the wrong context and maybe i should just let it slide and post about stuff i actually enjoy

LOL @ this sounding remotely like black leotard front. that would be AMAZING but unfortunately it is not true

― akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Wednesday, March 21, 2012 12:42 AM Bookmark

yeah, really!

this is kind of cool. reminds me of kate wax, julia holter, emika and all the other chicks from the arty electro thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WE5uHNoGOHU

Sascha Funke vs. Nina Kraviz
http://open.spotify.com/artist/1meuzXhsNqB8rtK4Cc2MUy

"vitriol" seems kind of hyperbolic

jimi's just offering a gentle "idgi"

idgi it either but tim's comment about it sounding more or less like a poker flat album from the last 10 years kinda covers any other comments i could add to the thread

i don't hear even any vague similarities between nina kraviz, blondes, john talabot and dfa. also the only people who have heard of nina kraviz are huge dance heads, not indie people

also the only people who have heard of nina kraviz are huge dance heads, not indie people

I played her for Rev in the outloud room one night, which I think was his first time hearing her. I'm neither a dance head or an indie people.

neither/nor, rather.

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you're head people.

nina released records on dj jus-ed label, can't get realer house than that.

"it's not house cos i like house", "it's not indie cos i hate indie"... jesus, state of some of you.

"it's not indie cos i hate indie"

who said this?

superfluous "not" there

ok, gotcha

I am frequently surprised by the lengths people will go to in order to categorise things together based on their own feelings of love or hate rather than, um, what the music sounds like.

This is mega Berlin 2012 DFA tech indie house if ever I saw it.

lmao dude

still gotta hear this album but i like what i've heard from nina kraviz. also she's hot. and hey is she dating ben klock??

she's def popular with teh dance heads.

i don't get the "indie" thing or the dfa comparisons either. haha ok i just relistened to some kalabrese and i don't know what i was remembering because kalabrese is certainly not "jam packed" or maximalist, by and large. there is a lot of overlap with what nina kraviz is doing for sure. it's more interesting to me to figure out why they're different, though, and to my mind they are. damned if i can really explain it. i can also see the comparisons with poker flat but again i've been bored silly by most poker flat stuff i've heard and not this, which despite its surface-level boringness and songs which develop maybe 2mm from where they started still manages to keep me listening (some more than others, obv; i don't really like the ultra-leaden voice on "ghetto kraviz" for example). perhaps one point of distinction between kraviz and somebody like dani siciliano (or kalabrese) is the sense of cheapness to it, for lack of a better word. half thought-out. which is maybe what jimi was getting at. but me, i like cheap if it sounds like this!

I am frequently surprised by the lengths people will go to in order to categorise things together based on their own feelings of love or hate rather than, um, what the music sounds like.

i feel like this has been the scourge of dance discussion here and beyond for a long, long time. not that there hasn't been plenty good discussion. really wish it would stop, there is this constant thing everything some people hate is labelled as a word they've already decided they hate and vice versa, regardless of the music.

oh come on, makes perfect sense, this music sounds like shit, that other music sounds like shit, qed

that post was indie nonsense.

only a soulless dance fan would say something like that

on the essential mix...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01h5gtt

Loving it so far. Very much making me want to don a pair of shades and sway by a rooftop pool rather than being in the basement shop of a university selling Polo mints.

Ghetto Kraviz is so ghetto.

awful, gay, indie, dfa, live, drum, old, man, brown, turd, fog, house, music

Proverb states soulless dance fan gets glass in feet.

I saw her over the weekend and she only played super-super-super-SUPER-SUUUUUUPEEEEEEEEEERRRR-tracky techno with barely any synth lines or anything and no real obvious breakdowns or buildups and most people (self-included) had no idea what to do with it. Like people would just dance for a little bit and then stop cause there weren't really any cues in the music to ease back here, go nuts here, whatever.

Like it was all pretty banging and stuff but not really in the service of anything.

you probably forgot to do drugs first.

I did have someone ask me if I knew where to get any E. But I didn't know. :(

only track of hers i know is zlobnii mikrob - representative?

this, which despite its surface-level boringness and songs which develop maybe 2mm from where they started still manages to keep me listening

i don't know, but maybe there's less songcraft getting in the way of the good bits? i hear, like, refrains, and fragments of refrains, and of backing vocals, but less of a heavy effort to sculpt them into house's version of a 'song'

even if it is there somehow.

cuz anyway good refrains or groups of refrain-like parts don't need so much in the way of development

DJ Kicks mix is sultry and moody and deep and basically what I expected, not hugely thrilling but not boring and definitely cut from the same cloth as her album.

Fabric mix is tight!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUhQV6QBeck

tracked down a decently priced copy of her album for REKIDS on cd.
cannot wait to hear it.

Is this the record from 2012 that's self titled

yup.
saw it on cd in my local hmv in the week of release and thought i'd get it at some point.
never saw the cd edition again except for £££ via amazon.
however, someone who used to work for the label is on discogs and has a clearly has a couple of copies up for grabs :
https://www.discogs.com/Nina-Kraviz-Nina-Kraviz/master/414521

Absolute classic record. Enjoy!

also from the same bloke,
got the radioslave/rekids/mixmag covermount ordered as i never got the mag.
and ...
shhhhh, but a hopefully few extra edits and stuff that are not allowed to be advertised on discogs
cannot wait.

ok, package arrived yesterday.

the standard NK cd album with skinny promo (perfect for the car !)
along with a copy of mixmag with NK on the cover and a covermount cd of a mixtape of unreleased extras aka 'Mister Jones'.
(alongside a few REKIDS extras, but hey i dont want to brag)
blood and sand, it's a good album.

in other news : just found out today that Radio Slave had a proper artist album out recently !
clearly i am no longer on the ball, as i had no idea.

and weirdly, NK is this months cover of Mixmag, with 2 cover variations available.

ty for reminding me about this album

it's a cool album, i like it

canceled

https://www.residentadvisor.net/news/44688

Yeah that was all garbagey yesterday.

lol I saw the initial instagram post and scrolled right on past

I absolutely don't want to delve into that conversation, hoo boy