arctic monkeys: number 1 in the midweek charts.

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"Chun-Li's Spinning Bird Kick" is the incidental link music underneath the "this is what's next" talking on FiveLive.

"Chun-Li's Spinning Bird Kick" is also a nasty funky jam which summoned to mind Ocean Colour Scene.

Good a-side, though. Got an SMS this evening asking where the Arctic Monkeys came from and whether the web had anything to do with it.

What do you guys reckon?

A.C.M.E. (A.C.M.E.), Monday, 31 October 2005 23:47 (eighteen years ago) link

No.1 single, irritating fanbase ... yes it's true, Arctic Monkeys are truly the new EMF.

Si.C@rter (SiC@rter), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 00:14 (eighteen years ago) link

They were absolutely fucking FANTASTIC on Friday night's Later. I officially get them now.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 00:39 (eighteen years ago) link

But can any of the Arctics, as the kids call them, fit an orange under their foreskin?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 00:41 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
I think a major aspect of these guys' aesthetic has been bypassed in the discussion so far and that is their spazziness/silliness. "Crap band name?" Not if you're into teh silliness. You're gonna tell me that "The Mystery Jets" is a better band name than "The Arctic Monkeys" or "The Ice Testicles?" I don't think so, pally.

Some ILMerz appreciate visionary spaz out music but only if it's AVANT-GARDE, man (Godz, Boredoms, what have you), so they're not gonna like it from some KIDS WHO OBVIOUSLY DON'T KNOW NOTHIN' and are doing teh nouveau indie dance rock.

The question is: how visionary will the Ice Testicles' and the Arctic Monkeys' spazziness ultimately be and the verdict for me is still out. (The Monkeys' album isn't out yet and I haven't heard the whole ICE TESTICLES LP.)

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 17 December 2005 20:56 (eighteen years ago) link

With the exception of Goldie Lookin' Chain, Test Icicles are the worst band currently releasing records.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 17 December 2005 21:13 (eighteen years ago) link

They seem amusing and at least ok. Compare this to the 10,000 bands currently releasing records who are just utterly dull and I have no idea why you would say such a thing.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 17 December 2005 21:18 (eighteen years ago) link

And Tim, have you been to a battle of the bands contest recently? There's two types of bands currently making music at a local level (in the UK, anyway). Funeral for a Friend/Bullet for My Valentine style "I am emo, but I am also angry" type bands, and "MUSIC IS FUN NOWADAYS. HOW FUN IS MUSIC NOWADAYS? ANSWER: VERY!" style acts, who even the fat guy from the Barenaked Ladies would flip the v-sign to upon hearing. These bands all have "wacky" "names", "zany" "stage" "outfits", and a "fun" "approach" to "music".

They are all shit.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 17 December 2005 21:18 (eighteen years ago) link

If I may relate the words of Jessica Popper on Test Icicles:

"12-year-old boy jokes and 12-year-old boy music. I'm so glad I'm not a 12-year-old boy"

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 17 December 2005 21:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Plus: dull > unlistenable.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 17 December 2005 21:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Ice Testicles seem genuinely amusing to me. Compare a picture of them with a picture of a band like Lightning Bolt who are supposed to look funny but do not!

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 17 December 2005 21:22 (eighteen years ago) link

The "TI"s, as Conor McN is no doubt planning to refer to them soon, look like a group of mentally retarded kids going to a fancy dress event as Bloc Party.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 17 December 2005 21:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Plus weren't they bottled off every night when they supported the Attic Moneys on tour?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 17 December 2005 21:24 (eighteen years ago) link

They do not look "mentally retarded."

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 17 December 2005 21:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Would you look at a picture of the Boredoms circa Soul Discharge and say that they look mentally retarded, too?

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 17 December 2005 21:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Did Devo look "mentally retarded?"

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 17 December 2005 21:28 (eighteen years ago) link

They do not look "mentally retarded."

http://www.rockfeedback.com/images/testicicles_bandwatch.jpg

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 17 December 2005 21:29 (eighteen years ago) link

Are you going to randomly list bands and ask if they look mentally retarded now Tim? I'll help.

Did 3rd Bass look "mentally retarded?"
Did the Goo Goo Dolls look "mentally retarded?"
Did China Crisis look "mentally retarded?"
Did Darts look "mentally retarded?"
Did 98 Degrees look "mentally retarded?"
Did Powder look "mentally retarded?"

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 17 December 2005 21:30 (eighteen years ago) link

There was nothing random intended. I was comparing the Ice Testicles to the Boredoms and Devo.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 17 December 2005 21:39 (eighteen years ago) link

As in, "FUCK ME. THE TEXT ICKLES ARE SHITE COMPARED TO THE BOREDOMS AND DEVO."

The Wanderers' Wandering Daughter (noodle vague), Sunday, 18 December 2005 03:50 (eighteen years ago) link

98 Degrees did look mentally retarded.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Sunday, 18 December 2005 04:17 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Its simple. Just remind all these crap bands like the monkeys that the world is a big place full of myriad possibilities and to venture forth out into the great yonder under blue skies, dark clouds, over hill and dale, through town and city, quench their thirst from the cup of eternal truth and multiply.

jackcarter (jackcarter), Thursday, 2 February 2006 19:12 (eighteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
article from the Times on line - sorry if it's already been posted somewhere.
***

Culture



The Sunday Times February 26, 2006


Pop: Monkey magic?
It works wonders for new bands, but does the MySpace effect have pitfalls for fans and artists, asks Dan Cairns


The term “niche product” is traditionally used to describe a commercially available item, event or attraction that is likely to appeal to only a limited number of people. Indeed, one definition of “niche” is “relating to or aimed at a small, specialised group or market”. You might, therefore, conclude that it is perverse to describe the debut CD from the Sheffield band Arctic Monkeys — which last month became Britain’s fastest-selling album of all time — as a niche product.
In a sense, you’d be right. After all, Whatever People Say I Am, That’s What I’m Not is approaching sales of 1m copies in this country. Crucially, the initial impetus for that record-breaking opening week came from the internet, as tens of thousands of web-fingered young fans flocked to sites such as MySpace and shared information, gossip and tip-offs about the group. So that rules “small” out. It’s when you subject “specialised” to scrutiny, though, that the whole notion of the new technoculture, and its possible impact on pop music — how it’s discovered, made, distributed, consumed — becomes both more complex and more intriguing.



A vivid illustration of this was provided nine days ago at Brixton Academy, in London, when the annual NME awards tour reached its climax. The headliners were the Newcastle band Maxïmo Park. Beneath them on the bill were three groups, including the Arctic Monkeys. Traditionally, all the acts congregate on stage during the final song by the headline band. On this occasion, however, members of the two bands that preceded the Yorkshire newcomers joined them for a last hurrah, after which a sizeable proportion of the audience left the venue. Maxïmo Park may have delivered a barnstorming set, but they did so after being abandoned by the support acts.

The incident put under the microscope an aspect of the brave new netspace order of things that gets buried in the avalanche of eye-popping statistics. The brand loyalty, the shared sense of “specialisation”, that impelled so many to buy Whatever People Say I Am … also, arguably, led them to reject anything that falls outside that specialised choice — in this instance, Maxïmo Park.

That’s fine for now. But it’s a febrile state of affairs, too. To borrow from the old Elvis marketing line, 50m users can’t be wrong. That figure is the latest worldwide estimate of registered members of MySpace (part of The Sunday Times’s parent company, News Corporation, since it bought the site’s owners, Intermix, last year). In America, it receives more hits than Google. And in this country — where MySpace is set to launch a UK-specific site in the spring, with a particular emphasis on music content — community websites are the dominant online destinations.

Small wonder, then, that the music business is eyeing these sites with such interest — and such fear. Where the pieces land is a question currently obsessing those who work in the old modes of mass-culture provision. And who emerges as the driving force(s) in the new equation — provider, creator, consumer — could transform the landscape in which music is made, marketed and purchased.

Right now, most of the talk is about the empowerment of the artist and the fan at the expense of the manufacturer and the retailer. Certainly, the two former groups appear to hold the whip hand as never before. The ease with which, as a music consumer, you can register with such sites (and don’t be put off if you’re at the less net-savvy end of the spectrum; it’s a doddle) means you’re just a few clicks away from becoming a well-informed voice in the forging of new musical tastes. And if you’re in a band, posting new songs, details of forthcoming gigs and evidence to surfing A&R men of the size of your online fan base opens music-biz doors that once might have been slammed in your face.

If, however, you are a high-street retailer, or a music-industry executive with huge overheads, the current thinking is that you should be afraid, very afraid. If the wilder dreams of techno-cultural forecasters were to materialise — if, for instance, bands were to make viable the model of selling their product directly and cheaply to fans — where does a big label with 40,000 employees go other than down the pan? Yet if a new generation is riding a 24-hour electronic loop that will make them both a powerful engine of taste-making and a formidable commercial resource, might there not also be some downsides to this cyber-scenario? Bombarded with choice, informed to the point of instant expertise, how do you react? In an ideal world, you advance serenely towards the Proceed with Purchase button. What, though, if such choice, far from locking down your certainties, instead makes them more malleable? As far as pop music goes, it’s here, I think, where the battleground lies.

Let’s return to the Arctic Monkeys, and the three key participant groups with a role in their success. First, the fans. A sense of community and ownership draws them to social-network sites and into purchasing the album. Said album sells 1m copies. What happens to that sense of community and ownership then? In any case, aren’t the Monkeys old hat now — what about that new act everyone’s buzzing about online? Second, the band itself. Remember when everyone was talking about Franz Ferdinand? The circus has since moved on. Could that hype, and those record sales, be fashioning a mighty big trap for the Sheffield band? Lastly, the music business, old and new. You have the resources to adapt to new formats, invest in changing technology and exploit fresh revenue streams. Cyberspace is delivering priceless marketing profiles to your inbox.

Back, finally, to “niche product”. Once a term that implied a modest commercial return, it could turn out to be music’s key mantra for the net age. You know what you like, and where to find it. We know what you like, too, and we’ve learnt how to sell it to you. The niche becomes a capricious temporary address, a staging post to the next specialisation. There’s one step forward: fans have more power. But the collective fickle finger of fate hovers restlessly over the mouse button — and over the bands. Now that’s scary.





ratty, Tuesday, 28 February 2006 00:13 (eighteen years ago) link

Rubbish!

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 08:14 (eighteen years ago) link

four months pass...
they're finished aren't they?

a member quits and the new single isn't NME single of the week!

there's a very quick turnover in your modern pop game.

pisces (piscesx), Monday, 17 July 2006 16:16 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

lol at people talking about Test Icicles as if they were gonna be big upthread.

Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 20 November 2007 16:24 (sixteen years ago) link

Weren't they big upthread?

Mark G, Tuesday, 20 November 2007 16:27 (sixteen years ago) link

Upthread Ranking

Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 20 November 2007 16:29 (sixteen years ago) link

With the exception of Goldie Lookin' Chain, Test Icicles are the worst band currently releasing records.
-- Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 17 December 2005 21:13 (1 year ago) Bookmark Link

Ah, for the innocence of days before New Young Pony Club

Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 20 November 2007 16:32 (sixteen years ago) link

lol at me not liking them very much upthread.

pisces, Tuesday, 20 November 2007 16:52 (sixteen years ago) link

lightspeed champion, though - he's rather good.

CharlieNo4, Tuesday, 20 November 2007 17:01 (sixteen years ago) link

monkeys are the most visible of the current glut of northern uncle toms. enough already with the meat pie rock n roll.

s.rose, Tuesday, 20 November 2007 18:40 (sixteen years ago) link


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