commendation for outstanding service to human race: resident advisor

Club night reviews seem even harder than live show reviews to do well. And I've no real interest in reading live show reviews even.

Ronan u should be the gonzo Lester BAngs of dance writing. U can do it.

x-post responding to ronan: Oh totally, I'm so over the lineage handwringing that seems so in vogue at the moment.

I wish there was some sort of popular and good dance music at the moment that could totally escape this (e.g. the class of 2002 - "Take Me With You" etc. - that was the music that coincided with your own emergence as a dance music writer), that made these considerations seem utterly irrelevant.

But current commercial electro-house isn't good enough, and UK funky house isn't popular enough...

we don't need a lester bangs of dance writing ffs

well I am addicted to indigestion meds if that helps

I wish there was some sort of popular and good dance music at the moment that could totally escape this (e.g. the class of 2002 - "Take Me With You" etc. - that was the music that coincided with your own emergence as a dance music writer), that made these considerations seem utterly irrelevant.

yeah it's annoying! some vulgarity is needed, tho I do think this is where the clubbing comes into things.

btw ronan i was going to post on yr blog but i can't remember my blogger password, you still want to check out the dubstep scene? i'll let you know when i'm next going to a dubstep night if so

you don't need a blogger password! my blog is free for all to post on!

tbh i still haven't got to grips w/posting comments on blogs, it always seems to go a bit wrong

we don't need a lester bangs of dance writing ffs

-- lex pretend, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 11:24 (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

It must happen!

Just a bit of background to mine and Tami's decision.

Renaissance didn't protest about the Digweed review. They had complained about the last three out of four reviews, and we were told that they were a annoyed that their records were not being reviewed "fairly" (they're an advertiser). The root problem was that over our two years editing RA we could never find a good progressive reviewer - we either had bitter ex-proggers railing against the genre or GU types who never had much to say.

So the review went through two drafts, both of which weren't publishable. Sales/management kept pressuring us with "Where's the Digweed review?" for like two months, and finally to relieve the pressure on Tami I decided to write the review myself. We put it up, it was taken down, and then sales commissioned, edited and published a new review without our knowledge and put it up.

Nothing to do with prog vs. minimal. It wouldn't have mattered if the new review was a masterpiece - we still would have resigned. It just goes against my sense of decency that sales dept should be able to dictate editorial. Whereas the big kick in the teeth for Tami was that sales got Todd Burns to edit the new review in secret. He didn't say boo to us - even when we met him in person. RA management had driven a wedge between us and Todd and Tami felt betrayed.

Which is to say: Nick in sales had been banging up against a brick wall of our editorial judgement for a long time, and then in Todd he found a way to bypass the system. Anyway, suddenly we had a situation where salespeople were commissioning reviews (and features) without our knowledge, and our new editor was taking direction from sales and not from us.

It was time to leave.

But anyway – I really shouldn’t be too hard on the parties involved - I imagine people are just doing their best. The bigger issue is what kind of system you have in place to separate sales & ed and whether all parties agree on that system. We couldn’t agree at RA. It’s a common problem though— Nick Hoppner said to us he struggled with the issue during his time at Groove, and then you’ve got PR people writing every day who seem to take it as a given that they can buy coverage. And yeah, I do think the lack of outcry about this incident speaks to how little readers care about the issue directly.

OTOH, it is a question of quality. The fact is that you can only get to a certain level when X% of your content is advertorial. And I do think readers care about quality.

I'm convinced a dance mag with a proper system in place can work, especially on the web. It's possible to be independent & also professional & profitable. But yes, the consensus to do it that way has be there among the people running the mag, which in the end wasn't really happening at RA. As I said, we couldn't agree on a system.

Just came to plug the Appleblim mix and read all this. Shit is pretty :/

Why didn't they just post one of those OTOH 2nd opinion reviews. Or have the two reviewers battle it out in a feature. Or have Digweed review the review, he could've complained about how all the paragraphs flowed too smoothly into each other.

mark e!!!

"so crucial" say vahid!
e for essential say me!

dl-ing now.

STL - Foggy Beats - Something
Amp Fiddler - You - Genuine
Try to find me VOL 1 - Make Dance - Golf Channel
Cole Medina - Love You Inside Out (Pinches Mix) - House Arrest
Mark E - Untitled - Unreleased
Grace Jones - La Vie En Rose (Mark E edit) - Unreleased
Bogdan Irkuk - Carpice - Rollerboys Recordings
Rondenion - Precious Time - Parker Music Works
Mark E - Get Yourself Together - Unreleased
LTJ Experience - I Love You - Irma
Marvin Gaye - Heavy Love Affair (The Revenge Rework) - Unreleased
Birth Control - Plastic People (Medit) - Unreleased

oh god this bee gees edit could just go on and on and i'd keep smiling

So looking forward to this but not gonna be able to get it onto my iPod till next week.

I had overlooked Resident Advisor for a long time because of their constant harping on progressive, but after seeing this thread a while back I was motivated to go back and give it a second chance - just in time for the defection of the staff they had with any real scruples? Feh.

Anyway -

The Amé one is yoga flame for all time...

Anyone feeling overly generous and want to share this with me? I'd love to hear the Trickski mix too, and if you haven't heard his Beats In Space mix, it's well worth a listen. Nice slowed down throbbing dark and erotic techno with a touch of soul:

http://www.beatsinspace.net/audio/2008/jan22/bis012208part2.mp3

Thanks.

all the ra episodes are archived here shhh :

http://www.podfeed.net/episodes.asp?id=5782&ct=1

Thanks for the effort, but it looks like they just link to the RA archives, which for the most part are, you know, dead. They don't even provide a dead link to the Ame mix for some reason.

I can upload it the now if you want? Fact I'll just upload it.

http://rapidshare.com/files/131994981/2007-01-24_RA042_-_AME_.mp3.html

mark e is really great

Yer a helluva guy Jim.

I co-sign the above two statements.

I was listening to RA114 (Aeroplane) in the car this morning and didn't realize that I missed my exit by 10 or so miles.

^^^^^^great. whats the song @ about 36 mins or so where they keeping singing "had enough"?

Sorry Deej can't remember the answer to that but yeah how good is it!! Nice to see Aeroplane expanding into house music proper with their Shortwave Set remix, and the John Daly remix of Toby Tobias is just @_@

Don't know. The track listing for it is:

01. Fleet Foxes - White Winter Hymnal - Bella Union
02. Quixote Feat. Lisa Li-Lund - Before I Started to Dance (Prins Thomas Diskomiks) - Versatile
03. They Came From The Stars I Saw Them - Moon Song (Holy Ghost! Remix) - This Is Not An Exit
04. The Shortwave Set - Now Til 69 (Aeroplane Remix) - Wall Of Sound
05. Dolle Jolle - Balearic Incarnation (Todd Terje Mix) - Permanent Vacation
06. Eine Klein Nacht Muzik - La Serenissima - Modular Recordings
07. David Rubato - Circuit (Aeroplane Remix) - Institubes
08. Eddy Meets Yannah - Solid Ground (Crazy P Remix) - Solid Ground
09. Toby Tobias - The Feeling (John Daly Remix) - Rekids
10. Mugwump - Yajna - Disco 45/Kompakt
11. Bostro Pesopeo - Communquis - Permanent Vacation
12. Maelstrom - Enter The Cosmo (Sankt Goran & Erik Sidung Remix) - Solar Disco

the John Daly remix of Toby Tobias is just @_@

-- Tim F, Tuesday, August 12, 2008 7:01 PM (34 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

im guessing this is what it is? looks positioned right

deej, that's Eddy Meets Yannah - Solid Ground (Crazy P Remix).

aka crazy penis.

Can't wait to hear this one.

http://mnmlbeats.wordpress.com/tag/ra-mixe/

Archive ^^^

-- jim, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 19:43

gone:(

any leads on a new one? i've been looking without much luck

really loving the Portable/Bodycode one

New podcast is Black Dog doing an Underground Resistance mix! Tracklist:

01. Underground Resistance - Antimatter - Underground Resistance
02. Voice Of Electrifying Mojo
03. Underground Resistance - Afrogermanic - Underground Resistance
04. Underground Resistance - Mirage - Underground Resistance
05. Underground Resistance - Windchime - Underground Resistance
06. Underground Resistance - Talkin2Z - Underground Resistance
07. Underground Resistance - Final Frontier - Underground Resistance
08. Underground Resistance - In Or Out - Underground Resistance
09. Underground Resistance - Maroon - Underground Resistance
10. Underground Resistance - Death of My Neighbor - Underground Resistance
11. Underground Resistance - Baghdad Express - Underground Resistance
12. Underground Resistance - Inversions - Underground Resistance
13. Underground Resistance - Technology Gap - Underground Resistance
14. Underground Resistance - Antimatter - Underground Resistance
15. Underground Resistance - I Am UR - Underground Resistance
16. Underground Resistance - Tazumal - Underground Resistance
17. Underground Resistance - Hunting the Program - Underground Resistance
18. Underground Resistance - Toxic Broadcast - Underground Resistance
19. Underground Resistance - Detonate - Underground Resistance
20. Underground Resistance - Orbit (Black Dog edit) - Underground Resistance
21. Underground Resistance - Riot - Underground Resistance
22. Underground Resistance - Base Camp Alpha 808 - Underground Resistance
23. Underground Resistance - Entering Quadrant 5 - Underground Resistance
24. Underground Resistance - Adrenalin - Underground Resistance
25. Underground Resistance - Gamma Ray - Underground Resistance
26. Underground Resistance - Ambush - Underground Resistance
27. Underground Resistance - Sea Quake - Underground Resistance
28. Underground Resistance - Kill My Radio Station - Underground Resistance

!!!

That's what I thought!

best RA podcast in ages.
the fact its mix #123 for RA is not by chance i would suggest.

the numerological genius of ken downie

it's 123 = 100 + 23 which is the 10th sum of 10 plus the 10th prime number DO YOU SEE

1 + 2 + 3 = 6 DO YOU SEE?!?

mark e otm

they did a similar looking mix with rob hood tracks:

http://www.dogsquad.co.uk/tbd/?p=370

not sure i want to hear 21 hood bangers in a row but anyway!

sam500 fear not that hood mix is not all bangers ..

will check it out thanks. nighttime world was lushness.

derrick carter this week!

playing a bit of catch up for the past 2 months or so, but really diggin' the greg wilson one right now, which kind of surprised me.

holy crap MOTOR CITY SOOOOUUUUUUUUULLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

Yeah, that mix is lovely. Beautiful in fact. Best one for ages. Must listen again.