Who's The Foxiest Rock Critic?

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Strongo, I'm not out of my mind, I live in Philadelphia. And after seeing how harsh people were towards Ultragrrrl's appearance, I was thinking, if she's considered "ugly," then boy am I in trouble, and merely pointing out the double standard in gender and appearance. Ugly dudes can date pretty girls. How many ugly or average girls do you see with hot guys? But seriously, I have no idea, I'm going by my own shitty luck before I settled down with a nice non-rock critic dude about five years ago. When I peek out into the single world via my unattached friends (male and female), I'm glad I'm not there, because not much has changed at all.

― Sara Sherr, Friday, 2 April 2004 23:39 (twenty-two years ago)

post-rock cricketing = surely the best thing evah

― Ricardo (RickyT), Friday, 2 April 2004 23:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Jess is in Philly! And I've got the same dating record and I'm in State College, PA!

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 2 April 2004 23:42 (twenty-two years ago)

I think the pressing question is why tall guys keep dating short girls (at least this is what tall girls have complained to me).

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 2 April 2004 23:43 (twenty-two years ago)

it's a mutt and jeff kinda thing

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 2 April 2004 23:49 (twenty-two years ago)

i am so confused by this: Ugly dudes can date pretty girls.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 2 April 2004 23:50 (twenty-two years ago)

i mean, yeah, all the girls i've dated have been pretty. maybe there should be scare quotes around "pretty girls".

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 2 April 2004 23:50 (twenty-two years ago)

dan clowes to thread, obv

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 2 April 2004 23:50 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm 5'1" and tall guys usually can't even see me. Tell the tall girls to give me their legs. I'm sorry if I'm being cranky, I meant nothing but fun. It's rainy and crappy and I don't want to leave my house to go to do my show. It's good to see nerdy girls getting props. It doesn't happen nearly enough. Strongo, I've seen lots of ugly or average dudes with gorgeous girls.

― Sara Sherr, Friday, 2 April 2004 23:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Let's get back to this me resembling Simon thing. So since Kevin Shields ripped off my look, WHAT DOES IT ALL MEEEEEEEEEAN?

Sara, of course, rocks. This goes without saying. But I suppose I said it!

I have always assumed Mr. Seward to be a smouldering hunk of man. Surely.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 3 April 2004 00:02 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't think Simon R and Ned look similar at all.

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Saturday, 3 April 2004 00:14 (twenty-two years ago)

i almost said something mean.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 3 April 2004 00:15 (twenty-two years ago)

"I don't think Simon R and Ned look similar at all."

can we get someone with more html skills than me to post a side by side?

I was completely sure for a few seconds that the pic of Kevin Shields in the cardigan was Ned.

― hector (hector), Saturday, 3 April 2004 00:21 (twenty-two years ago)

When I had him as a lecturer, I thought Mark K-punk was sort of cute.

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Saturday, 3 April 2004 00:23 (twenty-two years ago)

simon r and ned look nothing alike

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 3 April 2004 00:24 (twenty-two years ago)

The kevin shields/Ned thing that i saw somewhere was pretty uncanny. Yeah, maybe i am wrong about Simon though. maybe he does look more like Lou Barlow. I've only seen one or two pictures of Simon. never met him. Rob Sheffield must be the tallest rock critic i've ever met. but i don't meet too many.

― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 3 April 2004 00:31 (twenty-two years ago)

me and jess are taller, scott.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 3 April 2004 00:32 (twenty-two years ago)

sheffield's only 6'3''

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 3 April 2004 00:33 (twenty-two years ago)

I have always assumed Mr. Seward to be a smouldering hunk of man. Surely.

Oh surely! (well, maybe 15 years ago before the bloat and the rot set in. mmm, maybe not even then.but as long as maria likes me i don't really care.)

― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 3 April 2004 00:34 (twenty-two years ago)

no way! you guys aren't giants are you?

― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 3 April 2004 00:34 (twenty-two years ago)

i am 9 foot 11

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 3 April 2004 00:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Holy shit, strongo! How much of that is yer head? HAHAHAHSHAQA!!!!

― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 3 April 2004 00:45 (twenty-two years ago)

here is a picture of maria and me all drunk on the bunnybrains website. it's old though. we are way fatter now:

http://www.bunnybrains.com/ArchivedSite/Pages/Photos/Photos(Other)/FriendsPix2.html

― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 3 April 2004 00:46 (twenty-two years ago)

I can't see your smoldering hunkitude in that pic!

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 3 April 2004 00:57 (twenty-two years ago)

i know. those are my barroom eyes, not my bedroom ones.

― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 3 April 2004 00:59 (twenty-two years ago)

i almost said something mean.

WAH

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 3 April 2004 01:25 (twenty-two years ago)

"King of Queens" owns this thread by weird-ass default

― Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Saturday, 3 April 2004 01:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Julie Burchill could severely criticize me till I begged for mercy.

― briania, Saturday, 3 April 2004 11:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Sara Sherr ([email protected])

I knew I recognized this from somewhere. Then Sciarinno popped in my head.

Simon R and Ned look alike? That would be a good question when having an eye test. Answer YES, you're obv blind.

― jesus nathalie (nathalie), Saturday, 3 April 2004 12:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Rosemary is right: Raggett and Reynolds do not, I think, look alike.

Sara Sherr quoted Lloyd Cole and nobody noticed!

Nipper, you ... disappoint me.

― the ... pinefox, Saturday, 3 April 2004 13:11 (twenty-two years ago)

okay, jeez, don't sue me. i saw a picture of simon a zillion years ago and i think his hair was longer. they are both sexy scientists if you ask me.

― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 3 April 2004 13:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Simon did have longer hair of a time, like all right thinking people.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 3 April 2004 13:32 (twenty-two years ago)

plus, i said he looked a LITTLE like you, not that you were twins or something. i mean, you guys could be cousins at the very least.

― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 3 April 2004 13:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Strongo does realise he's being come onto so much on this thread he's likely to drown bukkake-style, right?

― Markelby (Mark C), Saturday, 3 April 2004 13:54 (twenty-two years ago)

BARRY!

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Saturday, 3 April 2004 13:55 (twenty-two years ago)

I feel like Rick Baker's special effects have attacked me.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 3 April 2004 14:18 (twenty-two years ago)

i feel sorta weird

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 3 April 2004 14:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Hi Nicole!

(still working on the sweets, btw!)

― Markelby (Mark C), Saturday, 3 April 2004 14:57 (twenty-two years ago)

I knew a guy who looked like Rick Baker. Or maybe that was Rob Bottin.

― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 3 April 2004 15:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Dick Smith had a crush on my father. True story!!

― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 3 April 2004 15:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Cliff Jones. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

― Super-Kate (kate), Saturday, 3 April 2004 15:20 (twenty-two years ago)

How did I unintentionally quote Lloyd Cole?

― Sara Sherr, Saturday, 3 April 2004 16:36 (twenty-two years ago)

I knew a guy who looked like Rick Baker. Or maybe that was Rob Bottin.

Scott Seward is Craig Finn in disguise and I claim my $5

― Nate in ST.P (natedetritus), Saturday, 3 April 2004 16:37 (twenty-two years ago)

jesus nathalie sez:
I knew I recognized this from somewhere. Then Sciarinno popped in my head.

and now im hopping onto this thread! hi nathalie!

this thread makes me laugh in that silly semi-psychotic 12 year old way. not at y'all, not even with y'all. it just does. but this is good.

the few photographs ive seen of chuck klosterman leads me to believe that he resembles an ex-boyfriend of mine, right down to the drinking habits and cranky diatribes. both may even appreciate king crimson.

personally, i prefer not to date anyone involved in the music business [be it a musician, writer, publicist, record label owner, etc] just 'cause it seems like a bad idea to get your web all tangled up, etc. of course, i came to this brilliant philosophy of "just 'cause": the hard way.

but i will say this, in regards to cute rock critics: that doug wallen is one fine piece of ass.

― maria tessa sciarrino, Saturday, 3 April 2004 17:29 (twenty-two years ago)

I met Tom Savini at the Fangoria Weekend of Horror once. The Ramones as well. And Steve Bissette. None of whom are rock critics but suddenly scott and ned are talking about special effects artists. When I was in middle school I wanted to grow up to be Dick Smith.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 3 April 2004 17:30 (twenty-two years ago)

I like this Sciarrino personage. Stick around!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 3 April 2004 17:38 (twenty-two years ago)

If Simon Reynolds does, in fact, look like Lou Barlow, then put Simon Reynolds down as my answer.

― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Saturday, 3 April 2004 17:40 (twenty-two years ago)

that strongo hulkington is a dishy chap

― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 3 April 2004 17:44 (twenty-two years ago)

So Simon looks like Lou, I look like Kevin. From there, the world!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 3 April 2004 17:44 (twenty-two years ago)

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Sara's unintentional Lloyd Cole quote: "cheekbones like geometry" mirrors the "Perfect Skin" line of "She's got cheekbones like geometry and eyes like sin / and she's sexually enlightened by 'Cosmopolitan' / she's got perfect skin..."

Love that song.

― Chris Hill (Chris Hill), Saturday, 3 April 2004 18:07 (twenty-two years ago)

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MJ looks resigned to a life where canoodling will never be a simple thing.

― clemenza, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:44 (fourteen years ago)

Speaking of Rock Scene, can't find another of Lisa Lisa right right now now, so here's this. Debbie may never have gotten paid for being a rock critic, but she proffered some pertinent observations, for inst: "Lester thought he was a 300-pound Jim Morrison." Ooh! Close enough, and pretty mild, considering his hatchet-job-as-coffee-table-book re Blondie.
http://a4.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/51/fb025d92c59d4ad5b75851629bebffb2/l.jpg If doesn't incl credit, it's by Bob Gruen (of course!)

― dow, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:55 (fourteen years ago)

god i was so in love with her.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/424658_2521941175081_1449881301_31846887_1089239271_n.jpg

― scott seward, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 22:26 (fourteen years ago)

Look at that look she's giving us, those glasses even. Born to crit!

― dow, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 23:47 (fourteen years ago)

I always assumed this was the answer:

http://ichlugebullets.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/matthew-perpetua.jpg

― dlp9001, Thursday, 2 February 2012 02:31 (fourteen years ago)

Wonder how much traffic Alfred's blog got from that link!

quite a lot...

― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 February 2012 02:36 (fourteen years ago)

http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lkg1h7YiYs1qbn8ndo1_500.jpg
Sam Shepard (ex-Holy Modal Rounders) wrote about and with Dylan, also wrote plays featuring music performed by actors (himself and Patti Smith.)Smith, writing for Creem and other rags, would list whatever she loved in Top Tens ("I saw the most beautiful girl on the subway"). Her Rock Scene Television saga got a planeload of UK scribes checking out those combustible ragamuffins, even lead to Eno's demos (Verlaine nixed 'em, but sound okay to me, for demos). But way before that, exploring what being a rock writer might mean, she was an inspiring figure already (circa '72, like this pic).

― dow, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:17 (fourteen years ago)

sorry-you can click on that and get it, but
http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lkg1h7YiYs1qbn8ndo1_500.jpg

― dow, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:18 (fourteen years ago)

Here they are onstage
http://ro-mashka.ru/photo_s/Sam-Shepard-20-15.jpg

― dow, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:23 (fourteen years ago)

And this recent Luc Sante piece is the most astute view of Smith I've even seen (incl some description of her rock writing, her overall apporach and how it could seem like mere namedropping etc but how she developed it)
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2012/feb/09/mother-courage-rock/?pagination=false Good pic by Judy Linn here too.

― dow, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:31 (fourteen years ago)

Scribe scrutinizing (credit: Judy Linn)
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/flash/Lens/2011/03/20110317-patti/480px.jpg

― dow, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:36 (fourteen years ago)

Ellen Willis gets to work
http://www.frieze.com/uploads/images/front/Music-Crawford.jpg

― dow, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:28 (fourteen years ago)

Willis: "H'm-m-m...Promises, promises--still..."
http://vidunderfull.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/ellen-willis.jpg credit: UMinn Press

― dow, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:33 (fourteen years ago)

one month passes...

http://www.artnet.com/Magazine/features/drohojowska-philp/Images/drohojowska-philp7-16-2.jpg
(Libby Lumpkin)

Grrrr! "A quitter never loses, and a loser never quits." Dave Hickey, charter Noise Boy. Marvin, His teen familiar once warbled in the Voice, " 'I ain't tryin' to come on like Hollywood/But Hollywood is what I am." And pointed out that if Neil Young had come out with such, crtis would be swooning over how poignant it was--but since Randy Bachman sang it, nertz to him,(Marvin was also hot for Kiwanis gumball machines as talismans of the New Normal). J.Hoberman was irritated by Hickey's chuckling at his own jokes in a doc, and seems delighted with himself in his award-winning collection Air Guitar, but it's only right and Mr. Natural. Also a good songwriter (and art critic, come to think of it).

― dow, Saturday, 3 March 2012 19:49 (fourteen years ago)

two years pass...

http://zicoydelia.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/burroughs3-zicoydelia.jpg

WB interviewing JP in C---Daddy. He also did Bowie in Stone (nice work if you can get it).

― dow, Wednesday, 3 September 2014 22:22 (eleven years ago)

Holly Hernandez, of Melody Maker Demo Hall fame.

― Master of Treacle, Wednesday, 3 September 2014 23:41 (eleven years ago)

Hell, jesus

― Master of Treacle, Wednesday, 3 September 2014 23:42 (eleven years ago)

Yep.

Ooh, just finally read that Luc Sante piece linked by Dow in Feb. 2012

― curmudgeon, Thursday, 4 September 2014 15:39 (eleven years ago)

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