Robert Plant's Solo career: classic, dud, search, destroy, etc.

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Someone should talk more about Dreamland.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 14:52 (twenty-two years ago)

I would, but I never heard it (apart from the afore-mentioned cover of "Song to the Siren").

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 15:22 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=Alhuh6j437190

OH NO! That naughty Thom Jurek is at it again! Check out that line about Lester Bangs.

Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 15:37 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=Alhuh6j437190

OH NOES! That naughty Thom Jurek is at it again! Check out that line about Lester Bangs.

Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 15:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Way back when Pictures At Eleven was released, the local AOR station also put one of the UK single b-sides in rotation, a lovely little number called "Far Post", that I've never seen on any other Plant release, anywhere. Anyone have it?

d.w., Wednesday, 5 November 2003 21:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Narramind. Looks like it's on the "White Nights" soundtrack CD, which I ought to be able to find in a dollar bin somewhere.

d.w., Wednesday, 5 November 2003 21:05 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~liden/image/now_zen.jpg

DV (dirtyvicar), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 21:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah d.w., and as I posted above, it's not on the best-of! Stupid, really.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 21:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Dreamland is GREAT! like top-to-bottom great! that's all I really have to say about it though

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 21:20 (twenty-two years ago)

I think Dreamland is quite good, though it's not something I play all the time. Very creative and expressive arrangements of folk and blues songs, mostly. Very solid band, with a variety of instruments, including strings, some electronics, guitar noise, and Arabian instruments. "Skip's Song" is good almost in a LZ III way and is my favourite. "Song to the Siren" is beautiful. I like the versions of "Morning Dew" and "One More Cup of Coffee" a lot. He actually manages to do something surprising and scary with "Hey Joe".

I totally loved "Tie Dye to the Highway" at the time (Grade 6/7). I really liked "Hurting Kind" too. I also remember "Liar's Dance" being good. Some of the rest too. I remember writing a review of Manic Nirvana for a Gr 7 English assignment and saying that it was pretty good but leaves the listener wanting a little more.

I think the coolest thing about his 80s solo career was how he reinvented his persona as this button-down shirt-wearing English gentleman artiste, sort of a hippie Peter Gabriel.

"Tall Cool One" was great, WTF? Or at least I thought so then. "Ship of Fools" too. I don't remember that album as well.

Yeah, "In the Mood" is good.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 22:03 (twenty-two years ago)

whatever the quality of his solo music, mr. plant always gave props to alternative/indie/whatever bands that he liked (and almost all of which sounded rather unlike led zeppelin) -- the cure and depeche mode (maybe even the pixies?) come to mind from memory, though i am sure that there are others. for being an exception to the "dinosaurs" who acted as if punk/new wave never happened, plant deserves respect.

and yes, some of his solo stuff is pretty good ... i always liked "in the mood," "little by little," and "heaven knows" (though the lyrics are sorta c-grade bryan ferry [OF ALL PEOPLE FOR MR. DOES-ANYONE-REMEMBER-LAUGHTER TO TRY TO IMITATE COULD YOU SEE THE FAVOR BEING RECIPROCATED?!]). the honeydrippers "sea of love" remake is silly, but it lead me to the original version so it's all good in the end (plus the video was prime mid-eighties cheese and the chick therein looked like a high-school teacher i really crushed on big time).

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 6 November 2003 05:20 (twenty-two years ago)

I just played Dreamland, having just picked it up in the used bin. It's really good! Nice arrangements and song selection; I agreee with Sundar above. I didn't want to hear another version of "Hey Joe" but this one's pretty good. And "Song to the Siren" is gorgeous... Alex maybe you need to hear it again. And his voice still sounds great.

Sean (Sean), Thursday, 6 November 2003 22:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Plant is a big fan of Big Black's Songs About Fucking, allegedly.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 6 November 2003 22:25 (twenty-two years ago)

that's true, I've heard him big up it in a couple of interviews

cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 7 November 2003 01:46 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...
Robert used to urge one to squeeze his lemon, now he looks like he's been sucking on one:

http://www.borntoboogie.net/Images/premiere/tv_robplant_rolan.jpg

(That's Tony Visconti and Rolan Bolan, Marc's son, on either side of him at an event for the Born to Boogie DVD.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 15 May 2005 21:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Rolan Bolan....heh.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 15 May 2005 21:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I read the other day that Plant has sold over 20 million records from his solo career alone. wow!

Al (sitcom), Monday, 16 May 2005 00:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Heh, good on him, actually. Sure a lot of it was a coast on the Led Zep afterburn but you know, he really does deserve it.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 16 May 2005 01:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I was sure this was revived in light of the nice reviews for the new one... anybody heard it?

An unmentioned song I still go back to: the beautiful synth ballad "Thru With The Two Step" from Principle of Moments. Man, I wish he'd locked into that sound/vibe and just stayed there....

Dr. Gene Scott (shinybeast), Monday, 16 May 2005 05:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Can't say the new album knocked me out particularly - yes I know Jah Wobble's on it, but if Plant had done an album with Wobble (and Keith Levene?) in 1979 now THERE would have been something. Pretty much the standard post-"Kashmir" world metal muzak plod AFAIC.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 16 May 2005 06:24 (twenty-one years ago)

(X-post) - Wouldn't "Zolan Bolan" have been more appropriate?

I like Robert Plant's first three records (the Robbie Blunt trilogy) a lot, and appreciate the effort on Plant's part to make them NOT sound like Zeppelin. Which would've been a mistake, considering how his voice has deteriorated over the years - couldn't hit the high notes anymore. His next few weren't very good at all, although sampling the Beastie Boys was a clever move. "Calling To You" and "Tie Die On The Highway" were pretty spacey. (Incidentally, what the heck was up with those ultra-arcane song titles, anyway? Were they dope-inspired? pulled at random out of a hat? i-ching toss-results? or just inside jokes? Dunno; but one of the few that made sense: "Mystery Title"!

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Monday, 16 May 2005 06:47 (twenty-one years ago)

The old wheeze can still startle. I caught "Darkness Darkness" on Classic VH-1 a few nights ago and – wow. What he's lost in range he's gained in gravitas and grit.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 16 May 2005 12:32 (twenty-one years ago)

appreciate the effort on Plant's part to make them NOT sound like Zeppelin.

He has since irritatingly renounced said efforts, alas.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 16 May 2005 13:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I was sure this was revived in light of the nice reviews for the new one...

Actually I didn't even know there was one!

I have to say I kinda regret not getting The Principle of Moments back when I heard "Big Log" and "In the Mood" on the radio in upstate New York -- both reasonably big hits and spun quite a bit. I was 12 then and had I picked up the album and really gotten into it, it would have been interesting to see how I viewed Led Zep and much else in retrospect.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 16 May 2005 13:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Get Dreamland! It's great.

Sundar (sundar), Monday, 16 May 2005 14:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Ned, I was the same age when I got that record and I think I might appreciate it now more than I did at that age (in the throes of Zeppelin geeking). There's some sophisticated pop on that one and on Shaken n' Stirred ('85) that probably rubbed a lot of his fans' ears the wrong way.

Dr. Gene Scott (shinybeast), Monday, 16 May 2005 14:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I listened to the new one over the weekend. Didn't knock me out--nice "textures" and the only songs I really liked were the old-fashioned Led Zep 3-style folky ones. But I do like his voice better now, actually.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 16 May 2005 19:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Dreadful album cover the new one has, though I dare say it's better than Fate of Nations.....which is sort've like saying it's better than a paper plate smeared with yak dung.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 16 May 2005 19:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Sundar, have you heard the new one? Is it as good as Dreamland?

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 16 May 2005 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Ha, yak dung. Yeah, it's Plant's solo records that are deserving of John Lydon's Zeppelin epithet, that just looking at one of their covers made him want to throw up.

I think Zeppelin's cover art is/was unfairly derided...most of it is really good. Obv. it was Page (the former art student), who was in charge of hiring Hipgnosis.

Dr. Gene Scott (shinybeast), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 04:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Funny that PIL ended up doing Kashmir live - apparently Lydon gave Planty a call asking for the lyrics.

One of the Hipgnosis guys (most likely Storm Thorgerson) proposed artwork for Houses Of The Holy with a picture of a tennis match on the cover. When asked what it meant, he said "Don't you get it? Racket!" and that was the end of that.

Deluxe (Damian), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 10:45 (twenty-one years ago)

One of the Hipgnosis guys --- Peter Christopherson -- went onto join Throbbing Gristle/PTV/COIL. In fact, that's Cosey & Genesis getting naked and randy on the cover of UFO's Force It (shot for Hipgnosis by Christoherpson)

Funny that PIL ended up doing Kashmir live

I saw them do as their opening number on the Album tour....only the band played it before Lydon took the stage (releaving him of the burden of singing it).

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 11:07 (twenty-one years ago)

the only songs I really liked were the old-fashioned Led Zep 3-style folky ones

I can't belive how many times I've heard the latest single in the last six weeks; it's not something that would make me search out this album, but the one acoustic track I did hear was surprisingly good. How many songs on the album are like that?

Vic Funk, Tuesday, 17 May 2005 11:22 (twenty-one years ago)

three-four acoustic things, as I remember. Album does sound Plant's been checking out Jeff Buckley or something, not sure if I mean this as a compliment or not.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 12:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Album does sound Plant's been checking out Jeff Buckley or something, not sure if I mean this as a compliment or not.

Oh, the pumping irony.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 19:15 (twenty-one years ago)

"Checking out Jeff Buckley" when one is Robert Plant = looking at a smudged photocopy of yourself.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 19:17 (twenty-one years ago)

My point, Ned.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 19:29 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm glad we had this talk.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 19:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Any love for "Shaken 'n' Stirred"?

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 19:32 (twenty-one years ago)

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/078944951X.01._PIdp-schmoo2,TopRight,7,-26_SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg

100 Best Album Covers

If these are the 100 best, rock and roll is a very boring beast.

I recieved this book as a gift a few years ago, and man, is it pretentious and dull. Here is 2% of the list:
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000025NCI.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00004YS2O.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

That's right. Yer lookin' at TWO OF THE ONE-HUNDRED BEST ALBUM COVERS OF ALL TIME.

Some of the list is some of the hundred best, but there's a lot of stinkers in there, too. I would only suggest reading this at the bookstore while waiting for your mate to finish shopping.

(I would've put this on another thread, but A.) Storm Thorgerson's name has already been dropped in here like he was Candyman and B.) This is an Alex in NYC thread, so album cover talk shouldn't be discouraged.)

Take a wild guess which LZ cover they liked the best?

http://www.starland.com/sf-sc/sf01/images/Monolith/Monolith.jpg

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 19:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Any love for "Shaken 'n' Stirred"
Hip to Hoo. Kallalou Kallalou!

Funny that PIL ended up doing Kashmir live
Someone, somewhere HAS to have a copy of this...?

Dr. Gene Scott (shinybeast), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 21:38 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...
Playing Walking Into Clarksdale right now much louder than I've ever played it before. It is now a much, much better album than I remember. "Most High" - daaaamn.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 18:21 (twenty years ago)

I quite like the new one, Mighty Rearranger, as well as the accompanying show.

Rick Massimo (Rick Massimo), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 19:35 (twenty years ago)

Curious to hear it, actually.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 20:57 (twenty years ago)

It's good! I wasn't sure what to expect but it's not half bad at all. Yeah, as Edd and others mentioned upthread, there are a couple/three numbers that have the pleasant whiff of Zep III. And he doesn't embarass himself on the rockers. And the band (same as Dreamland, minus Thompson and one other) continues to be quite good. I don't think it's quite as good as Dreamland (nothing as moving/arresting as the "Song to the Siren" and "Hey Joe" covers), but it's a keeper. Nice little album. Even the drum and bass track sounds ok.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Monday, 18 July 2005 02:44 (twenty years ago)

five months pass...
On a whilm I bought Shaken 'n' Stirrled a few hours ago for dirt cheap...to call it strange would be an understatement. How does an album sound simultaneously dated (the keyb sound) and like nothing else (samples atop polyrhythms and weirdly textured guitar). Was he listening to Big Audio Dynamite?

I'll have more to write when I've absorbed it, but this proves that the man was NOT coasting (I checked this album's sales, just as a by-the-way; it's his lowest-selling '80s album, and the Zep fans didn't forgive him until he made Now & Zen.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 21:01 (twenty years ago)

*er, the title should say "Stirred."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 21:03 (twenty years ago)

"Too Loud" is great.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 22:53 (twenty years ago)

I have a strong affection for the first three Plant solo albums and really should hear these recent ones.

Zwan (miccio), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 22:55 (twenty years ago)

Was he listening to Big Audio Dynamite?

Not sure about BAD - quite possible, given the man's eclectic tastes. One of his main inspirations around this time was Peter Gabriel.

Deluxe (Damian), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 23:03 (twenty years ago)

Yep!

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 8 July 2017 00:26 (eight years ago)

solid perce

mookieproof, Saturday, 8 July 2017 01:25 (eight years ago)

two years pass...

anyone listening to his podcast? it's kind of nice. He's all over the place but enjoyable to listen to.

Also learned that Richie Hayward played on Shaken n Stirred, now I have to go listen to that one

calstars, Thursday, 11 July 2019 01:36 (six years ago)

one year passes...

Robert Plant and Phil Collins backstage at Madison Square Garden, NYC during Plant's 1983 'Principle of Moments' tour pic.twitter.com/7vrEJWZ5ta

— Barney Hurley (@barneyhurley1) May 2, 2021

calstars, Monday, 3 May 2021 03:04 (five years ago)

boss business

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 3 May 2021 03:05 (five years ago)

“The break is in 7/8”

calstars, Monday, 3 May 2021 03:16 (five years ago)

"Lighten up, baby, I'm in love with you!"

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 May 2021 09:33 (five years ago)

two years pass...

you were pumping iron while i was pumping irony

mookieproof, Wednesday, 21 June 2023 03:11 (two years ago)

Heaven knows!

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 21 June 2023 03:13 (two years ago)

one year passes...

Destroy: "Big Love"

j.o.h.n. in evanston (john. a resident of chicago.), Tuesday, 20 May 2025 19:28 (one year ago)

Time hasn't been kind to Manic Nirvana, but...search: "Nirvana" and "Your Ma Said You Cried in Your Sleep Last Night".

"Tie Dye on the Highway" holds up but would be well served by a radio edit.

j.o.h.n. in evanston (john. a resident of chicago.), Tuesday, 20 May 2025 20:11 (one year ago)

Wrap Your Arms Around It Joyfully: "Big Log."

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 May 2025 20:28 (one year ago)

"Tie Dye on the Highway" sounds like The Mission going baggy. Big fan of that and also "S S S & Q" and "Anniversary". Just as McCartney likes to view Tomorrow Never Knows, McCs I, II and the Fireman as his on/off experimental strand, I like to imagine Plant has an equivalent art-pop one wrt HotH, ITTOD, Shaken 'n' Stirred, the hip hoppy stuff on Manic Nirvana.

you can see me from westbury white horse, Tuesday, 20 May 2025 20:52 (one year ago)

yeah, "S S S & Q" sounds like they tried to write a Prince song

j.o.h.n. in evanston (john. a resident of chicago.), Tuesday, 20 May 2025 21:49 (one year ago)

“The Way I Feel”: always good for driving at night to a deal gone bad.

the way out of (Eazy), Tuesday, 20 May 2025 21:52 (one year ago)

three months pass...

Led Zeppelin's Robert Plant Nearly Attacked On Stage In Buenos Aires. pic.twitter.com/tCJaz4fYQa

— Rock Photography (@Photomusicrock) August 20, 2025

Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 21 August 2025 03:04 (nine months ago)

IMPORTANT NOTE! Event happened in 2012. The Led Zeppelin star was performing with his band The Sensational Space Shifters in Buenos Aires.

visiting, Thursday, 21 August 2025 03:28 (nine months ago)

Damn Twitter.

Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 21 August 2025 03:41 (nine months ago)


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