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I'm going to generalize here, but with the exception of some Anglophiles, nobody in the States gets worked up over Primal Scream. I mean, they're ok and all, but come on. And Bobby isn't even good looking.

― Sean, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Kate: Bobby G is so very very good looking

Me: Uuuuurrrghhhh....shudder uuuunnggghhhh....

Cor, Kate.....

this< /a> is what I call good-looking. However, this certainly isn't.

What d'you think? :)

Doompatrol? Any opinions to offer? Is bbby a htty?

x0x0

― "Una Persson", Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Umm...

I've always thought that bobby looked really cool. Dodgy around give up but don't give out...but the jesus and mary chain bobby, yes, screamadelic bobby, stonestarchild....

I'm sorry Norman, can't budge. Must admit, I love primal scream, the only band that I will buy cd singles for...

ps. getting some peter hammill tonight. tell you what i think about a week from now...

― [email protected], Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

gawd. K-l33t HTML skillz on display again. Try cutting & pasting this for yer lamer's idea of "good"

http://www.malcolm-mcdowell.com/Gallery/Wallpaper/wp10.jpg

And paul, it's not that it's been "done before". I don't actually care if it's been done before. It's that they, or more precisely BBBY, are always banging on in the musick press abt how they're a reflection of their ultra-cool influences, but they never get close

xoxo

― "Una Persson", Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Sorry Norman, can't diss the scream. Without them I would have never started my life long obsession with the byrds/velvet underground/can/stones.........................

By the way, Spirit...didnt like.....arrgghh.....

the drum and bass covers of garage rock classics like 96 tears...how can you go wrong?

― [email protected], Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

You forgot to include a picture of Bobby for comparison. I am not the only person who thinks so. Don't MAKE me start posting links to the Primal Scream Fan Fiction archives again.

― masonic boom, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I think I have to agree with Norman, I do find their Rock'N'Roll cliche nonsense a bit embarassing, but I do like a few of their songs.

― DG, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Alright kate!!! I give up!!!

this is the link to BBBY I screwed up.

Paul - which spirit album did y'get???

xoxo

― Norman Fay, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

No..no..

Not rock and roll nonsense. They were the first band to make me BELIEVE in rock and roll! Defined rock and roll for me and loads of other people.........

primalscream/stoneroses/happymondays

They made it sexy again!

― [email protected], Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Awww, but Norman, he's still so lovely. I will hear no slander against my Bobby G's loveliness. La la la la la. ::sticks fingers in her ears:: Oh wait, you've cried uncle already. Mwah hah hah.

They made it sexy again!

Good lord, I'm agreeing with Doompatrol. Somebody call the doctor. Yes, they made it sexy again. But this is Bobby G we are talking about, he could make being a LIBRARIAN sexy again.

It's called BEAUTY!!!!! Either you have it or you don't!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

― masonic boom, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

the first one, i think, borrowed off of my hippie neighbour and his anorexic girlfriend.

i havent lived with it enough to give an honest opinion...will tell you later on.

(I'm talking about spirit)..

primal scream = rock and roll.

― [email protected], Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

the thing with bobby is that he is freak/geek god made cool. primal scream is music for outsiders...

it's the manifesto.........

so many highlights, that I can never put them in a group other than CLASSIC. The closest would have been Richard Ashcroft up to A Northern Soul. But the other two, would have to be, Super Furry Animals and Spiritualized as the two other bands that I can believe in...

― [email protected], Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Pah. Oddly, all the posturing and silly slogans you like so much DP have exactly the opposite effect on me. 'Music for outsiders'? Like who? Or is this just some silly Scream bid to wish into existence a long dead 'counterculture'? It's not 1969 any longer (thank goodness), and I think all that silly leather-trousered rock star bullshit should have been left there.

― DG, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Ahhh...

But DG (the man who hated doompatrol)...it's not 1969 for the Scream. It's the present. It's the future. It's the past. It's everything.

One listen to the scream theme Screamadelica will make anyone dance.

It's not silly it's the scream spirit, man o man.

― [email protected], Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'm scared, you're starting to make Bobby sound like a superhero.

― masonic boom, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Well, he does have his superhero theme...

Plus he could take Spidey. Look at his action with the mic stand (classic iggy by the way)...

― [email protected], Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

He is a superhero, he is Record Collection Man! See how he has that rare Stooges bootleg that you don't! Hear how he obtained that ultra- obscure MC5 live album recorded on a dictaphone in Bognor Regis! Laugh at his amusingly naive politics!

― DG, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

He sounds like he may be related to The Reader. Tom n Al should get to work on this.

― Nicole, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Bob speaks out against injustice. A 14 year old will be bored if you start to analyse the inequities of racism. The most effective media messages are the simple ones. If Momus were to have written shoot speed kill light, it would have been a delightful marquis de sade romp that would be over 14 minutes long, mentioning long dead japanese composers. Primal Scream keep it simple for the kids.

― [email protected], Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Then the kids are stupid. To be honest, the proposed Momus song sounds more interesting than any leather-trousered 'Scream Team' (pffffffff) nonsense.

― DG, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Momus is hardly rock and roll.

anyways, what about andrew innes, electronic music for the cinema. He's the man with the ideas!

― [email protected], Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Er...I didn't say Momus is rock'n'roll. Which is probably a good thing.

― DG, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Can Bobby Gillespie make Ned sexy again ?

― Patrick, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Can Bobby Gillespie make Ned sexy again ?

Bobby/Ned slash fiction???

― nicole, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Woo-hoo ! Kate needs to get to work on this right now !

― Patrick, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The prospect of me hooking up with the world's Most Assless Man is truly disturbing and hilarious all at once.

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I would *so* write Ned/Bobby fan fiction if it were not for the fact that both Ned and his lovely girlfriend Jane would kick my ASS from here to Glasgow and back, if I were even to try... ;-)

― masonic boom, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Screamadelica is a wonderful record, and XTRMNTR is without doubt one of my favourite records ever. I've got almost everything else they've done, but don't listen to it half as much as those two. Primal Scream are definitely one of my all-time favourite bands, and the fact that they're erratic and cliched and messy all adds to the charm.

― Nick Southall, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Actually, I'd be entertained and Jane would probably laugh her head off. Go on, Kate, give it a go. ;-)

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

'Ach, Ned, yer overeducated, ye've got nae drugs, yer record collection's just no up to standard and ye need to see a stylist,' rasped Bobby G, tugging his leather breeks to his ankles and hunkering down on the cream vinyl Star Wars style settee of Ned's East Village apartment, 'but I cannae resist the feel o yer Thatcherite truncheon up ma mine shaft... Ned, Ned, Christ, come on, take me higher... let's come thigither, ya bastard...' And, very gently, he -- [continued page 244]

― Momus, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

*still laughing my ass off* I've been immortalized in a Momus-written pornographic fan fic involving Bobby Gillespie, what more do I need out of life! I'll just find the noose I've got around here and be done with it. ;-)

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Word to Norman Fay. They blow a long dog. I even like a couple songs by them but the idea of them is BOGUE BOGUE BOGUE. I hate singers with that studiedly "vulnerable" "I'm looking at myself in a mirror in the vocal booth" sound, it makes me wanna kick their balls...if yr idea of "rock'n'roll" is this (only actual content - VANITY) no wonder people in yr half of the world say r'n'r is dead. Hurry up & bury it.

― duane, Tuesday, 17 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Humph! Plagiarist!

― masonic boom, Tuesday, 17 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

huh?

― duane, Tuesday, 17 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Latter day Primal Scream: a bit like Gorillaz?p> Agree with Gareth about Andy Weatherall.

One of the funniest things I've ever heard was a story about when Bobby decided to introduce the much-vaunted 'dance element' to their records. Apparently it caused all sorts of soul-searching in the band, culminating in one member bursting into tears and shouting about 'joining forces with everything we've ever fought against'.

One question: you know when people call them 'the scream'? Is that a joke?

― Nick, Tuesday, 17 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

No, no, it's 'the scream team', pfffffffffffff.

― DG, Tuesday, 17 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I just gave them a re -listen after many years last night and I must say, boring dud. Another hyped band fails to produce. SOunds like George Michael meets Suicide circa 1990.

― Mike Hanle y, Tuesday, 17 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

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SOunds like George Michael meets Suicide circa 1990.

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Yeah, that's why it's a classic. :)

― Omar, Tuesday, 17 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

'George Michael meets Suicide', hmmm...that reminds me, since the weight of public opinion is bearing down on the 'Primals' (well, what's stupider, that or the 'Scream Team'? Okay, both), I have to say that I like their Suicide rip-off cover of "96 Tears", if only because they were shamefaced enough to actually forego the publishing royalties that time.

― tarden, Wednesday, 18 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

four years pass...

I was at my first ever Primal Scream gig in London's Wembley Stadium. The highlight of course was "Star". I was sat a few rows from the front of the stadium and I was sure Bobby Gillespie winked and smiled at me.

After the gig I wandered backstage looking for the Scream's dressing room. I found it easily, and then I listened at the door and heard their gorgeous Scottish accents inside. I was listening for about ten minutes before I felt a tap on my shoulder.

It was their Bass Player, Mani. He asked me if I'd like to be able to hear them more clearly. I nodded my head but instead of opening the door for me he pushed me against the wall opposite.

He moved his hands all over my body still fully clothed. Our breathing started getting heavier. Then he lifted up my T-shirt and my bra and started stroking my breasts. He pressed his hands down harder and my breathing became faster. He put his head in front of my breasts and started licking the tips. They began to harden.

Just them the dressing room door opened and Bobby Gillespie walked out and stopped and stared at what he saw. "Wouldn't you rather do that inside, Mani?" He asked Mani. Mani took my hand and led me inside the dressing room. Bobby followed behind.

Inside the dressing room were the other members: Duffy, Throb and Innes. They all looked at me holding Mani's hand. I noticed I still had my T-shirt and bra lifted up and they all could see my breasts.

My nipples were softening now. They all looked as though they wanted me badly. Mani asked me to lie on a double mattress on the floor. I took all my clothes off first. My underwear seemed to disappear very quickly. It was hard to tell where it went as they were all gathered around it. There was a scuffle for my underwear then they moved nearer me and my underwear had gone. I couldn't tell which one of the cheeky Scotsmen had my underwear. I was lying on my back on the mattress. I wondered who would make the first move. Bobby did.

He spoke to me paying me compliments on my body. He knew I enjoyed hearing his voice. He looked deep into my eyes and then planted a small kiss on my lips. He moved away as if he had enough already...then he came back again. He put one of his big hands on my breasts.

He started moving the hand on my breast in a circular motion. I smiled at him. He smiled back at me... but it wasn't just a normal smile... it was a warm sexy smile. His eyes looked so beautiful when he smiled. I couldn't take my eyes off his beautiful face. The other members were becoming impatient. Innes pushed Bobby out of the way. I made a suggestion of something that would please me. Innes pushed Bobby onto the floor and started undressing him. He rubbed his hands all over Bobby's nakedness. He took Bobby's cock in his big hands and started stroking it gently. Then he put it into his mouth and sucked it. It was really turning Bobby on. While I was watching standing up now, I suddenly felt a hand on my back. The hand went and then I felt a hard cock entering me from behind. I didn't know who's it was...

― evil heet, Monday, 24 April 2006 18:58 (twenty years ago)

otm

― gear (gear), Monday, 24 April 2006 19:14 (twenty years ago)

YSI?

― Washable School Paste (sexyDancer), Monday, 24 April 2006 19:17 (twenty years ago)

this is ILM not Escort or Razzle !

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 24 April 2006 19:23 (twenty years ago)

this is ILM not Escort or Razzle !

Tell that to c-man.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 24 April 2006 19:49 (twenty years ago)

My underwear seemed to disappear very quickly. It was hard to tell where it went as they were all gathered around it. There was a scuffle for my underwear then they moved nearer me and my underwear had gone.

― gear (gear), Monday, 24 April 2006 20:45 (twenty years ago)

the article in Observer Music Magazine at the weekend was interesting and contained things i didn't really know before like his links with Altered Images and the Pastels. And his Peter Hook's Bass Guitar annecdote.

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/omm/story/0,,1756657,00.html

― koogs (koogs), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 08:02 (twenty years ago)

this is ILM not Escort or Razzle !

I dunno, I'm seeing a promising new trent for ILX thread revivals here.

― lil' merzbow wow (haitch), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 08:38 (twenty years ago)

trend, perhaps?

that mani though, what a cad.

― lil' merzbow wow (haitch), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 08:39 (twenty years ago)

one of his big hands

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 08:40 (twenty years ago)

I couldn't tell which one of the cheeky Scotsmen had my underwear

Donald, Where's Your Troosers?

― Kids Will Eat Them Till the Cows Come Home (Dada), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 08:46 (twenty years ago)

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what about real tenement kids as well? like Jim Kerr, lol

― calzino, Thursday, 8 June 2023 19:40 (three years ago)

I read somewhere that founding Roxy bassist Graham Simpson received a salary from the band for the rest of his life (a mental health crisis led to him leaving after the first LP). I think there was a profile in the Wire? Anyway it struck me as very cool if true.

― meat and two vdgg (emsworth), Thursday, 8 June 2023 19:49 (three years ago)

He was the only bassist to be a full member of the band, and would have continued to earn royalties on that first record. Of course he and Ferry were the founding and only two members for awhile, keeping him on salary would have been a nice gesture (although I thought he was said to have disappeared for decades, which isn't conducive to picking up cheques).

― Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 8 June 2023 19:52 (three years ago)

re: travis...

Travis is a pseudonym. Which makes it even more interesting that she chose to mention Bobby Gillespie by name. pic.twitter.com/yX0xUHHFfL
— Frankosonic (@frankosonic) June 8, 2023

― rincton monkspoon (NickB), Thursday, 8 June 2023 20:31 (three years ago)

? thought it referred to the milquetoast popular band - Fran Healey, “Why Does it Always Rain on Me?” etc. Hence the “grin collectively”.

― assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 8 June 2023 20:43 (three years ago)

odd that Miki says she never liked clubs much as she was a bit of a raver. i guess she means the kind of clubs BG attends.

― stirmonster, Thursday, 8 June 2023 21:12 (three years ago)

Could mean lots of things, I guess? "I went to clubs when my band was my main thing and it seemed the thing to do", "I used to get into clubs while I was recognised but in retrospect the queue jumping felt uncomfortable" etc, etc.

― djh, Thursday, 8 June 2023 21:53 (three years ago)

Louie isn't on Twitter but has been reading the messages of support & has asked me to post on his behalf. He sends a big thanks for the warm wishes and says it's been overwhelming. A difficult week for the #MartinDuffy family but ❤️ from us all pic.twitter.com/wdVY8jGaDI
— Steve Duffy (@SteveDuffy99) June 8, 2023

― rincton monkspoon (NickB), Thursday, 8 June 2023 22:04 (three years ago)

That's good to hear.

I confess to being slightly concerned about how all this will affect the continued presence of Boaby (as opposed to Bobby) Gillespie on ILX.

― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 June 2023 22:18 (three years ago)

maybe he'll chime in on the "have you been cancelled" thread

― ꙮ (map), Thursday, 8 June 2023 22:22 (three years ago)

Ah!

― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 June 2023 22:23 (three years ago)

A period of sober reflection and a commitment to do better next time? Followed by a speed-fuelled arson spree in Primrose Hill for the fans.

― just the sound of four guys smelting in a room (Matt #2), Thursday, 8 June 2023 22:57 (three years ago)

Well I guess I just found out that I knew Martin Duffy's brother when I lived in Cardiff, I had no idea who his brother was.

― nate woolls, Thursday, 8 June 2023 23:30 (three years ago)

seven months pass...

oh hell yes

Mo Saleh from Gaza presents the Aida Celtic shirt to the giant of journalism @azaizamotaz9. Motaz fearlessly and relentlessly brought the war on Gaza to millions of people around the world and inspired others to do similar. pic.twitter.com/6CpyJiB9e7
— Aida Celtic (@aida_celtic) January 28, 2024

― Murgatroid, Monday, 29 January 2024 01:13 (two years ago)

seven months pass...

IT LIVES

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVskjwNj80Q

― Ned Raggett, Friday, 30 August 2024 12:41 (one year ago)

I can hear Tom D’s cries of pleasure from here. (I may be getting the emotion incorrect.)

― Ned Raggett, Friday, 30 August 2024 12:42 (one year ago)

Private video, so this remains a mystery

― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Saturday, 31 August 2024 09:22 (one year ago)

Boaby can rest easy, I can't see the video either.

― Defund Phil Collins (Tom D.), Saturday, 31 August 2024 09:30 (one year ago)

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