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Ground Zero has migrated and can now be found on OZ TV, friday nights, around 13.30, 12 pm on Channel 10 - you guys have this vortex hole that sucks straight through to ur free-to-air TV, don't you?

― Geoff, Thursday, 7 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

re:" graeme downes would have to be at the top of the list of guys who have everything one needs to be worshipped" ... including a BMW.

― di, Thursday, 7 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

re grame downes: and don't even get me started on the Otago University "rock" course.

― lady die, Thursday, 7 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

hey don't hassle our Universe City, they let me use these computers.

― guy pretending to be a student in the law library, Friday, 8 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

davey mog - "Big Fat E." was the Double Happies.

― duane zarakov, Friday, 8 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

Sticky Filth, Fuck Off Cuntface, that band with Dane in and the guy wearing the Slayer T-shirt headbanging and the girl with the belt of bullets and the Pink Floyd samples, The Rainy Days, Celia Patel attempting to be a torch singer in the Frisbee practise room when she brought her own lamp to shine on herself, Snapper, The Jewl of Bessamoochu the first time they played but not the second time when they repeated the exact same spontaneous chatter between songs, Lil Stevie McCabe, all doomed to Eternal Recurrence.

― Maryann, Friday, 8 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

Re: Garageland -- they're fun. You mock without cause. ;-) Though like eighteen million other bands perhaps they need to rip out the IV injecting _Surfer Rosa_ into their veins.

― Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

--*not split enz* or *crowded house* puking dont dream its over over dental waiting room subconscious volume everytime im trying to avoid that kind of thing by supermarket shopping in the early hours... nor split enz who still (i just worked out that maybe shark attack was an ego player jam about the almighty streetness of the FINN bros)... bug me.. even while rehearsing in the middle of hollywood... cos some cover bands practising their set and their set is only split enz covers... i wanted to ask them why?... and is it for love (pathetic), money (funny)or selfloathing (mirror)... and didnt they know they were americans (why not styx ?).. but i was already listening to six months in a leaky boat... (leaking bile in to our $US15-hour practice room).. and sitting in a corner feeling sad.. (not homesick).. but stalked.

― dan, Friday, 8 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

God, I just love the fact that some of my favourite music in the world is so un-hip. I had no idea. Seems as if I've always had blinders on when it came to the Finns - primarily Neil, who I think has a "hardworking" genius for melody and evocative image, a genius visibly marred by human flaws, but genius nonetheless, and Tim was deemed to have a certain melodrama based entertainment value that kept him interesting from time to time. It changes nothing though - it was primarily evaluated in isolation, no one talks to me about 'my kind of music' *ever*, and damn it if I don't just like what I like.

ummm /rant

― Kim, Saturday, 9 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

so much NZ music is so horrible but no band has such wondorous rock imbedded in every pore as The Datsuns, they are wonderful...and what about all the great wildside bands, early Head like a Hole, pumpkinhead etc etc?

― gracie C Russlyn, Tuesday, 12 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

one month passes...

My five fav bands are: Riot III - The First Fifteen - Fishschool - Axlegrinders - Stepford Five - Snort - The Quakers - Flesh De-Vice - Vas Deferens. Musician's who really inspired me, Jessica Walker - Chris Plumer - Samantha Swan,Punk Diva. Eugend from Flesh De-Vice - Dragon and Steve from Vas Deferens. Celia Patel - All the gurls in Stepford Five and Snort and Red-Rag and Barbaric Bunnies.

― dottee doeswell, Thursday, 9 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Search: Aspen "Are you that retail snob?" and "Music from passing Cars" Gordons First Album (the best record ever made in this country)...all the Bailter Space stuff from Tanker thru to Vortura...then they started to sound like lame USA indie, the first two Dimmer singles, some of the early FN stuff still sounds good, the 4 track era Tall Dwarfs still sounds odd but Knox has been increasingly pandering to his audience for some time now, King Loser were a great live band but the records are patchy, Rainy Days were good and then I lost interest....

Destroy: pretty much all FN stuff post 1990, all the KOG stuff ( wow we can make dance music just as crappy as the rest of the world can)NZ music in general has become increasingly influenced by overseas trends and very little seems to be interesting. Their seems to be more interest in copying genres (rap-metal bands popular, lame Californian punk etc) than developing an original voice. Garageland/Zed/Stellar*/HDU/etc anyone.And as David Cohen said "Neil Finn is about as exciting as porridge"...

― David, Friday, 10 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Surprised at no mention of the Skeptics...if you can get past the singers' mannerisms the music is great (Skeptics 3 and Amalgum), ditto for the first Headless chickens mini LP. As a general rule in NZ music any band from Auckland is shit (in this country bands move to AK to "make it"), any band from Palmerston North is stuck in the 80s, any band from Wellington is kidding themselves, any band from Christchurch thinks they are better than any other band in NZ and any band from Dunedin is too busy masturbating to notice anyone else. Hope this clears things up.

― David, Friday, 10 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

five months pass...

STICKY FILTH, THE WARNERS, TOY LOVE,SPELLING MISTAKES- NO ONE ELSE MATTERS-FLYING NUN IS BOOOORING

― Stacey Winteringham, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

It's been nearly ten years since Flying Nun put out anything remotely classic. But the stuff I still listen to from that early period:

Bats - any of their recordings up to and including The Law of Things.

Chills - Heavenly Pop Hits and most of Brave Words

3Ds - Hellzapoppin'

Pretty much the entire of the Getting Older and Tuatara compilations.

Look Blue Go Purple - everything

Chug - Sassafras

Straitjacket Fits - Melt

The Verlaines - Bird Dog (my fave NZ LP ever)

The Clean - evereeeething. especially At The Bottom (that guitar sound!!!!!)

I'm sure there are heaps more but I'm sleepy..

Destroy: Garageland, most FN releases post Garageland (exception: The Subliminals first EP, released a couple of years ago)

― electric sound of jim, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Forgot: Double Happy's Other's Way, BailterSpace's Vortura, a lot of the early Tall Dwarfs stuff.

As for non-FN, Roy Montgomery is my fave. I adore it when he sings, too. Dead C have their moments, but I'd be hard pressed to say I actually like them all that much.

― electric sound of jim, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

No one has mentioned the band Jean Paul Sartre Experience. Phantastic psychedelia. Another band missing are the Able Tasmans. Their music is something like naive (almost all NZ bands sound young and fresh) art rock.

― alex in mainhattan, Monday, 21 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

the puddle. rik starrr

― Alasdair, Monday, 21 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I had a Puddle record (single? album? can't remember) and I remember it being really shithouse..

― electric sound of jim, Monday, 21 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

the Puddle were choice, George H . is one of the greatest unsung heroes of NZ rock'n'roll - man i wish he would come out of retirement. I saw him walking down the NE Valley the other day with his dog & he had shaved his head, he looked all freaky & satanic.

― DUANE, Tuesday, 22 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i dont like eating lamb so dont know fuck all about new zelend. suppose to be i love music not i love cuntrys.

― XStatic Peace, Tuesday, 22 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

he's definitely a sung hero round my way. Acetone records of France were going to release more stuff by them, but I believe they lost touch.

― Alasdair, Tuesday, 22 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

give em his phone # then.
it's (NZ country code whatever that is)(03)473 8750.

― duane, Thursday, 24 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Which Able Tasmans CD do you like, Alex? I'd never heard of them before yesterday, when I borrowed "Store in a Cool Place". It isn't even listed on AMG. It's dated 1996. Is that past their prime? AMG shows nothing after '93, except for a comp from 2000. I haven't had a chance to give it a good listen yet. (The sucker's LONG.) What I've heard is noisier and looser than I expected.

As long as this thread's being revived.....Search: Renderers "A Dream of the Sea" from 1999.

― Curt, Thursday, 24 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Curt, the only Able Tasmans CD I happen to own is actually "Store in a Cool Place". Nevertheless it is not my favourite. I have a tape from 1988(?) with "A Cuppa Tea and Lie Down" which was one of their first albums. It sounds more natural and I prefer it a lot. Quite melodic with a little folk rock touch. collating bones, a kind of mini-review site, writes on four of their albums.

― alex in mainhattan, Friday, 25 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Duane - that's fantastic - I will.

― Alasdair, Friday, 25 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Y'all realize that when I get over there in September I'm going to be making note of these various recommendations...so MAKE MORE! :-) I actually hadn't realized about that newer Renderers album, which means that I Must Acquire It.

― Ned Raggett, Friday, 25 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

three weeks pass...

hdu - metal? hahaha. I suppose they are.

how about:

the clean - getaway weta - geographica blair parkes - the end range - all the way to lunch the wrong records dollar mixture compilation letterbox lambs - not a private joke poultice - three beefmeisters and a french movie cloudboy - down at the end of the garden

can't find 'em? try noizyland.com

― James Guthrie, Thursday, 21 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Ned,

Good luck finding much worth buying in New Zealand. I certainly didn't have much luck when I was there.

I did, however, get a very funny Dead C story. I wound up dropping off a hitchhiker at a friend's house and began talking with a person there. (In Christchurch, as I recall.) Anyway, I mentioned that I felt like I'd do okay meeting people if I moved there or something, because I have specific interests, like New Zealand music ... like the Dead C. ...

her eyes lit up, and she took me next door. Next door was a musician and recording engineer. He was not in the Dead C. Nor was he related to the Dead C. in any way. However, he had a Dead C. record that he couldn't get rid of, and both of them were absolutely delighted that an American had come all the way from Texas to take the Dead C. CD in question off their hands.

They were so delighted I couldn't bear to tell them that the CD, TRAPDOOR FUCKING EXIT, was one of the only Dead C. CDs I had at the time. I wound up giving it to the radio station when I got home. I think they also gave me a copy of Pieters/Russell/Stapleton's LAST GLASS, which I also already had.

On the other hand, I got to see Fence and Sandoz Lab Technicians at a club Alastair Galbraith runs in Dunedin (the Arc), and I went to the museum Michael Morley works at there as well.

Search: Omit, instrumental Roy Montgomery, Alastair Galbraith, Dead C., Doramaar, Surface of the Earth, Chris Knox, Tall Dwarfs, some Peter Jefferies.

Destroy: Flies Inside The Sun, and the Bilders records don't do much for me.

forgetting a bunch.

― doug, Thursday, 21 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Alastair Galbraith never ran the arc. He did run Everything Inc which was over the road. Lots of the Builders records are great but perhaps you heard the dodgy Wellington ones.

― hamish, Thursday, 21 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Sorry, [email protected], but the Clean Getaway belongs in the DESTROY column. David Kilgour's new album, however, after initially disappointing me, is growing better with each listen.

― Curt, Thursday, 21 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

TONY VALENS & THE INCISIONS

― , Thursday, 21 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Wreck Small Speakers On Expensive Stereos for having the greatest band name ever

― electric sound of jim, Thursday, 21 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

one month passes...

i reckon the best nz band has got to be Rubicon!!!!or zed..... still i loooooooooooove the bruce song!!!! its my fav!!!WHO would call a kid bruce anyway!!!!!!! hehe ah.......nz music rulz!!!!!!

― Mel, Thursday, 4 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Rubicon are fucken rude

― , Saturday, 6 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

zed are fucken even ruder

― , Saturday, 6 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

two weeks pass...

Jesus fuck! What a goldmine. Not yet mentioned but honest, and possibly only understandable to the most blindedly patriotic Kiwi, but "Songs from the Front Lawn" - Front Lawn and "Salty" - Muttonbirds are wonderful. "Kaleidoscope World" -Chills is a fantastic collection, and "Higher" EP by HDU always perks me up when I've collapsed. Oh shit, New Zealand's never been an albums place, and I'm trying so hard to look credible - um...the first Dribbling Darts of Love album...the Rip...Stones...Hi-tone Destroyers. Nah, screw it "Woodface" was pretty good eh? -except for Chocolate Cake.

― Darryl, Thursday, 25 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

d-4: ANY GOOD OR NOT? They seems likeable.

― fritz, Thursday, 25 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

they're sort of allright. bands like that are 5c a kilo out here, BFD is what i say.

― unknown or illegal user, Thursday, 25 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

one month passes...

Looks like most bases have been covered here already I would add a search for some good ol rock n roll: "Bliss 20 essential NZ classics"(also a "Bliss 2" released) on Festival Mushroom Records. Great compilation of nz pub rock classics fron the late 70's and 80's. Stone cold classic stuff.

Currently I really enjoy thrashing Goodshirts power pop albulm "Good",

― kiwi, Sunday, 9 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Lots of Good stuff already been covered but don't forget Birchville Cat Motel. Alastair galbraith is the fucken greatest solo artist ever, Dead C rock like a beast, the first Peter jeffries album is Brilliant but nowhere near as good as the entire out put of the band him and his bro graeme had, This Kind of Punishment. Graeme is probably the more talented actually, I love his work with The Cakekitchen, there's a great single called Bald Old Bear. If I had to pivk one band i'd pick Snapper. or the Clean. Or the Doublehappys. Apparently there's an all girl band kicking around these days calle Hellfuckenrumble. Nice. The Chills had a big hit in about 1980 called Pink Frost, which is the source of mouch money that enabled flying Nun to make lots of really great records.

Oh, the Sferic Experiment are awesome too.

Who gets the obscure prize?

― Andrew, Monday, 10 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

two weeks pass...

True what they say about The Gordons esp Future Shock ep & 1st album being OUT OF THIS WORLD, Doublehappies (fantastic live when Shayne wasn't acting like a prat), what about Dunedin Double 12"??? The Stones supporting New Order in 1982 were tasty. Best NZ band I saw live though, was Nocturnal Projections (look for CD compilation on obscure German label)in 1982: mucho intense yet melodic. Good to see 1st XV getting a mention. Naked Spots Dance, what about them, then?: can you tell I'm from Welli??? Herco Pilots for using quotes from the Seven Crystal Balls (Tintin) on their double 7", Toy Love and the Great Unwashed 1983. The Good Old Days... sigh.

― Benjamin Morgan, Wednesday, 26 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

three months pass...

haha for all you Gordons-luvving types, Flying Nun have just rereleased the 1st album + Future Shock. buy it at smokecds, or something < /shill>
oh yeah, & they're also rereleasing Skeptics III, the Chills' Submarine Bells, early JPSE comp, & a/the Great Unwashed collection.

oh yeah, & the upcoming Clean Anthology looks to be the BEST THING EVER.

― Ess Kay (esskay), Tuesday, 15 October 2002 08:52 (twenty-three years ago)

four years pass...

If anyone's interested, there's an entire concert by The Enemy available here. Not great sound quality, but "Iggy Told Me" at the very least is worth hearing.

I'd also like to stick up for the Bats' Couchmaster - excellent album, with some really nice use of textural feedback that doesn't appear in much else that they've done.

― clotpoll, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 05:13 (eighteen years ago)

one year passes...

so from the sounds of it, a safe bet for someone getting into NZ music would be to get albums from the clean, the bats and birchville cat motel? any other necessities?

― Emily Bjurnhjam, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 21:15 (seventeen years ago)

the chills are the best

― mizzell, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 21:17 (seventeen years ago)

The Terminals

― wilter, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 21:17 (seventeen years ago)

EXPONENTS!

― obamaloverholeinyohead (Mackro Mackro), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 21:34 (seventeen years ago)

No love for The Shocking Pinks?

― Treblekicker, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 21:46 (seventeen years ago)

Messages From The Cakekitchen, This Kind of Punishment, Alaistar Galbraith are all pretty essential.

― Alex in SF, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 21:48 (seventeen years ago)

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― donald wears yer troosers (doo rag), Friday, 28 October 2022 08:11 (three years ago)

eleven months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjJY95_Kj9E

― donald wears yer troosers (doo rag), Thursday, 12 October 2023 18:33 (two years ago)

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― donald wears yer troosers (doo rag), Thursday, 12 October 2023 18:35 (two years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyObGLciBRA

― donald wears yer troosers (doo rag), Thursday, 12 October 2023 18:38 (two years ago)

Hey do rag I was thinking of you - and George Gossett - when xyzzzz and I saw the Dead C in London this summer - good times

― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 12 October 2023 19:49 (two years ago)

takes all sorts i guess

― donald wears yer troosers (doo rag), Wednesday, 25 October 2023 06:54 (two years ago)

eleven months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bu3wHKERS4

― this train don't carry no wankers (doo rag), Wednesday, 2 October 2024 05:52 (one year ago)

been on the frog power train for the last couple of monthst too. all the best songs don't seem to have videos... last half of this one in particular:

https://frogpower.bandcamp.com/album/south-dunedin-astral-projection-seminar

― linee, Wednesday, 2 October 2024 06:03 (one year ago)

yea frog power is a brilliant & prolific artist previous band Coyote with his brother who is now sadly departed also excellent

― clouds (peanutbuttereverysingleday), Wednesday, 2 October 2024 06:28 (one year ago)

i'm intrigued about where all the comments are coming from, presuming these aren't also just dunedin/NZ people... has he got caught on with the RYM or something similar?

― linee, Wednesday, 2 October 2024 09:07 (one year ago)

nah i'm from nz. the other person who commented i dunno tho

― this train don't carry no wankers (doo rag), Thursday, 3 October 2024 20:01 (one year ago)

but assume anyone who'd heard of coyote is probably from dunedin

― this train don't carry no wankers (doo rag), Thursday, 3 October 2024 20:02 (one year ago)

five months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jgUNlLSbZY

― foghat leghorn (doo rag), Saturday, 15 March 2025 18:37 (one year ago)

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