I don't get what the point of mentioning this is. The fucked up inclusion of box sets in the list? Because Dreams is an anthology, Dictionary is a proper LP.
― Vic Funk, Monday, 24 November 2003 19:36 (twenty years ago) link
79. Star Time, James Brown330. In the Jungle Groove, James Brown414. Greatest Hits, James Brown
― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 24 November 2003 19:38 (twenty years ago) link
equally mind-boggling is elton john's "capt. fantastic and the brown dirt cowboy" at #158. i mean, i realize they feel it's their obligation to include four or five beatles albums in the top 10 and all of jimi hendrix's output somewhere in the top 100 and the token three or four women in the top 50 -- otherwise it wouldn't be a rolling stone list -- but "capt fantastic and the brown dirt cowboy?" are they absolutely, positively sure that's a better album than "whitney houston" (#254), "ghost in the machine" (#322), "sea change" (#440) and "goddess in the doorway" (not listed!), not to mention elton's own "tumbleweed connection" (#463)? are they totally, truly sure? i demand a recount!
― fact checking cuz, Monday, 24 November 2003 19:42 (twenty years ago) link
What kills me -- as I posted in the other thread -- is that 30 #1 Hits or some comparable collection of his RCA hits is not on this list, yet they found room for FOUR Simon & Garfunkel records.
If nothing else, this list only strengthens my complete boredom with second-tier "classic-rock" (Cream, Doors, Santana, Pink Floyd)
― chris herrington (chris herrington), Monday, 24 November 2003 19:42 (twenty years ago) link
It's having The Complete Hank Williams (is this that 11-disc box or whatever?) and 40 Greatest Hits that's silly (along with the James Brown thing Matos cited).
And not to beat the Elvis thing too much, but if you gave someone who didn't own any modern pop music all 500 of these titles for their collection, they would take them home and still not be able to hear "Don't Be Cruel." How is that possible?
― chris herrington (chris herrington), Monday, 24 November 2003 19:46 (twenty years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 24 November 2003 19:52 (twenty years ago) link
Kill them now, I still demand.
― Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 24 November 2003 19:58 (twenty years ago) link
are both of the last two albums included on star time?
― disco stu (disco stu), Monday, 24 November 2003 20:03 (twenty years ago) link
― Josh Timmermann (Josh Timmermann), Monday, 24 November 2003 20:17 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 24 November 2003 20:18 (twenty years ago) link
Can RS please please please stop bigging up Seargent Pepper. Anyone stale enough to be an avid RS reader already owns it. It doesn't need any publicity.
― Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Monday, 24 November 2003 20:37 (twenty years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 24 November 2003 20:39 (twenty years ago) link
12. Kind of Blue, Miles Davis47. A Love Supreme, John Coltrane94. Bitches Brew, Miles Davis102. Giant Steps, John Coltrane356. Sketches of Spain, Miles Davis454. Getz/Gilberto, Stan Getz and Joao Gilberto Featuring Antonio Carlos Jobim
It was very generous of them to include one album by someone who isn't Miles Davis or John Coltrane. What a shame they didn't have space left over for Thelonious Monk, Duke Ellington, Billie Holiday, Ella Fitzgerald, Louis Armstrong, Charles Mingus, Charlie Parker, etc. etc.
― o. nate (onate), Monday, 24 November 2003 20:41 (twenty years ago) link
― o. nate (onate), Monday, 24 November 2003 20:43 (twenty years ago) link
303. Grace, Jeff Buckley
A Neil Diamond compilation ranks 81 places higher than Jeff Buckley? That's sickening.
― Miggie (Miggie), Monday, 24 November 2003 20:44 (twenty years ago) link
But what bugs me isn't the list itself - I mean, who among you clicked on this thread and seriously thought it wouldn't be all bitching that it was crap - but the spurious, 'official' nature of it.
1) It's impossible, obviously.2) Even if it was possible, why should Rolling Stone get to be the officiator?3) And why should they get to make money hand over fist by selling copies of it?
Lists can be fun. This one is not.
― Jim Robinson (Original Miscreant), Monday, 24 November 2003 20:48 (twenty years ago) link
― Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Monday, 24 November 2003 20:49 (twenty years ago) link
For that matter, Blood Sweat and Tears? What stopped Wenner from slipping in a Peter Cetera boxed set?
Seriously I want someone to slap these fucks in the skull and tell them that putting a lot of the music on this list is the same thing as putting a lot of James Michener on a greatest books list.
― Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 24 November 2003 20:50 (twenty years ago) link
why? does jeff buckley's album have any songs as good as "cherry cherry" or "sweet caroline" or "cracklin' rosie"? the only problem i have here is that "the neil diamond collection" is far from the definitive neil diamond comp.
― fact checking cuz, Monday, 24 November 2003 21:03 (twenty years ago) link
― fletrejet, Monday, 24 November 2003 21:05 (twenty years ago) link
Do you really need me to answer that?
― Miggie (Miggie), Monday, 24 November 2003 21:06 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 24 November 2003 21:07 (twenty years ago) link
― fact checking cuz, Monday, 24 November 2003 21:11 (twenty years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 24 November 2003 21:15 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 24 November 2003 21:15 (twenty years ago) link
no zappa (BAD)no gary numan or human league (ABSOLUTELY INEXCUSABLE)only ONE kraftwerk album and only ONE depeche mode album (INEXCUSABLE, ROCKIST AND ANTI-SYNTH)VERY poor on the techno/electro front (anti-synth/electronic music bias YET AGAIN)the top 100 or so are the usual sixties retread/boomer-favorite suspects (e.g., is anyone surprise AT ALL by anything b/w 1 and 100 on this list?)if they had to have an EATB album, it should've been ocean rainno XTC (though they're not really "my group," this is also a glaring omission)
otherwise, this list isn't as bad as i feared it would be ... particularly the deeper down you go
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 24 November 2003 21:18 (twenty years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 24 November 2003 21:20 (twenty years ago) link
Soo, soooooo true!
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 24 November 2003 21:21 (twenty years ago) link
― Mark (MarkR), Monday, 24 November 2003 21:22 (twenty years ago) link
246. Ornette Coleman - The Shape of Jazz to Come
― Broheems (diamond), Monday, 24 November 2003 21:27 (twenty years ago) link
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 24 November 2003 21:27 (twenty years ago) link
no kinks album higher than #231
― fact checking cuz, Monday, 24 November 2003 21:33 (twenty years ago) link
― o. nate (onate), Monday, 24 November 2003 21:36 (twenty years ago) link
― Broheems (diamond), Monday, 24 November 2003 21:37 (twenty years ago) link
81 isn't nearly enough places.
― Colin Beckett (Colin Beckett), Monday, 24 November 2003 21:39 (twenty years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 24 November 2003 21:44 (twenty years ago) link
as far as their zappa picks go: i guess it's verboten to admit to liking any of his post-original mothers stuff (and by no means is this restricted to rolling stone). even when the post-original mothers stuff blows the original mothers stuff off the map (see roxy and elsewhere, one size fits all, and joe's garage, just for starters). and if they had to pick a token sixties Zappa album (other than woiiftm), both absolutely free and uncle meat are INFINITELY better than freak out!
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 24 November 2003 21:54 (twenty years ago) link
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 24 November 2003 22:00 (twenty years ago) link
― Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 24 November 2003 22:13 (twenty years ago) link
― billstevejim, Monday, 24 November 2003 22:15 (twenty years ago) link
That said we all think the list is a big frikkin' joke. Blender's Top 1000 list was way better, esp. since they didn't do any ranking and didn't end up with overlapping hits comps like this one.
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 24 November 2003 22:20 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 24 November 2003 22:23 (twenty years ago) link
You speak wisely, should have been top 100 at least.
― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Monday, 24 November 2003 22:28 (twenty years ago) link
― nate detritus (natedetritus), Monday, 24 November 2003 22:48 (twenty years ago) link
I don't find any redeeming value in Diamond, despite the debatable tag of memorable some of his songs could have. I shrug in my indifference, though I'm glad some of you like the man.
― Miggie (Miggie), Monday, 24 November 2003 22:56 (twenty years ago) link
― robin (robin), Monday, 24 November 2003 23:01 (twenty years ago) link
fact checking cuz is completely OTM here. And kudos for speaking up about it.
― Sean (Sean), Monday, 24 November 2003 23:13 (twenty years ago) link
― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Monday, 24 November 2003 23:32 (twenty years ago) link
Where's Pulp, Saint Etienne, The Magnetic Fields? Even the Stone Roses didn't make it. What the...
― daavid, Monday, 24 November 2003 23:57 (twenty years ago) link
Balls. Proof that albums can't make sense of music.
― Jim Robinson (Original Miscreant), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 00:07 (twenty years ago) link
Why don't you guys just realised that hip-hop will never be even remotely as important as rock. Hip-hop is just as passing fad - completely forgotten in 20 years - while rock will live forever.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, November 25, 2003 5:55 PM (sixteen years ago)
Whoa there, Nostradamus.
― pomenitul, Sunday, 20 September 2020 19:32 (three years ago) link
So uh, the only evidence of this i can find is a picture of the October issue's cover on Bruce Springsteen's facebook page, but it looks like they're revising the top 500 again
https://www.facebook.com/brucespringsteen/posts/10158393622925250
― josh az (2011nostalgia), Sunday, 20 September 2020 19:33 (three years ago) link
Will Arctic Monkeys crack the top 200 this time? Stay tuned.
― pomenitul, Sunday, 20 September 2020 19:35 (three years ago) link
I did my best.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 20 September 2020 19:51 (three years ago) link
Geir still has 3 years left to be proven right. Give him a chance guys.
― 29 facepalms, Sunday, 20 September 2020 20:07 (three years ago) link
i can't at this list being a hype-able intellectual property
― dyl, Monday, 21 September 2020 03:23 (three years ago) link
Led ZeppelinLed Zeppelin IILed Zeppelin IIILed Zeppelin IVLed Zeppelin VLed Zeppelin VILed Zeppelin VIILed Zeppelin VIIILed Zeppelin IXLed Zeppelin X
― James Gandolfini the Grey (PBKR), Monday, 21 September 2020 13:10 (three years ago) link
imaginary Rolling Stone otm
― error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 21 September 2020 13:21 (three years ago) link
I’m a big Dylan guy, but Highway 61 has never been one of my faves.. seeing it rated above Blonde on Blonde is surprising to me
Highway 61 was the first Dylan album where I really understood what the fuss was about, so that may be coloring my perceptions. But I still think that song for song, it is the most consistent Dylan album. Blonde on Blonde has better sound and better vocals. For a while it was my favorite. To be honest I mostly listen to post-2000 Dylan and/or bootleg series stuff these days, and haven't played either of these in a while.
― o. nate, Monday, 21 September 2020 18:21 (three years ago) link
To be honest I mostly listen to post-2000 Dylan and/or bootleg series stuff these days
Me too! That's funny.
― Scam Likely (morrisp), Monday, 21 September 2020 18:24 (three years ago) link
New list, new #1: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-lists/best-albums-of-all-time-1062063/
― jaymc, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 14:57 (three years ago) link
As safe as ever.
― sock solipsist (pomenitul), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 15:00 (three years ago) link
Trying to read that on my phone and it’s just impossible to scroll down far enough to see number one. So I’m just gonna guess Wesley Willis finally made the top spot.
― Monte Scampino (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 15:13 (three years ago) link
Here you go:
50 Best Albums of All Time According to Rolling Stone's BRAND NEW, 100% Revamped Top 500
― sock solipsist (pomenitul), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 15:15 (three years ago) link
Your service is as unsettling as it is quick, ty!
― Monte Scampino (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 15:16 (three years ago) link
RS apparently revamped this list in December, but I can’t find a comprehensive rundown of the changes:
EDITOR’S NOTE, DECEMBER 2023: In the three years since Rolling Stone rolled out the all-new, fully revamped version of our 500 Greatest Albums list, artists like Beyonce, Bad Bunny, and Taylor Swift have all released undeniable classics. So we’ve updated the list, adding those albums while making a few other tweaks. The 2020 list covered many decades of popular music, and was the result of a vote among more than 300 artists, writers, producers and industry figures; this update covers just three years. So we kept the changes light.
― Wooly Bully (2005 Remaster) (morrisp), Sunday, 7 January 2024 01:04 (four months ago) link
(or I guess “updated” the “revamped” list)
― Wooly Bully (2005 Remaster) (morrisp), Sunday, 7 January 2024 01:05 (four months ago) link
Ok, Reddit to the rescue: https://www.reddit.com/r/Music/comments/18vmy8b/so_rolling_stone_just_did_a_mini_update_on_their/
― Wooly Bully (2005 Remaster) (morrisp), Sunday, 7 January 2024 01:09 (four months ago) link