The Monkees: Classic or Dud?

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This is my favorite Davy lead on a Monkees song, a B-side between Instant Replay and Presents:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-lyW33lddU

Friend and ilxor J0seph McC0mbs noted this was Paul Williams' first major songwriting credit.

(Sorry the bad quality and flanging.)

ma ck ro ma ck ro (mackro mackro), Sunday, 4 March 2012 09:05 (fourteen years ago)

Lol you weren't kidding about Unterberger:

Missing Links, Vol. 2

Nineteen rare and unreleased tracks that, like the rest of the Monkees' output, ranges from excellent to insufferable, with plenty of mediocre material between. The highlights are the sprightly pop-rocker "All the King's Horses" (a 1966 Mike Nesmith original) and alternate versions of two of the group's best singles, "Words" and "Valleri." These alternate takes aren't exactly better, but they are definitely different and less elaborately produced. Most of the rest is either lightweight 1966 pop/rock or weedy 1968 Mike Nesmith country-rock tunes that foreshadow his solo work; several cuts are alternate versions of songs that were hardly notable efforts in the first place. An exception is the live 1968 recording of the unusually forceful Nesmith original "Circle Sky," which was featured in their movie Head (although a studio version was substituted on the actual soundtrack album). Odds and ends like an instrumental banjo piece by Peter Tork and a Spanish Christmas carol are pleasant but inessential. A thoughtfully compiled CD, it nonetheless really gives this group more respect than they're due by treating these artifacts with such importance.

glumdalclitch, Sunday, 4 March 2012 09:30 (fourteen years ago)

unterberger is such a narrow little shit

buzza, Sunday, 4 March 2012 09:42 (fourteen years ago)

is there a good thorough monkees anthology i should pick up that doesn't have, like, EVERYTHING but hits most of the high spots, incl. album tracks? or should i just put that together myself?

Amateurist I liked this comp when I bought it about 10 yeras ago:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Definitive-Monkees-Limited-Edition/dp/B000059QC0/ref=sr_1_9?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1330854443&sr=1-9

But, you know, the first five albums are available for eleven quid in the uk

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Original-Album-Series-The-Monkees/dp/B003097AAQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1330854443&sr=1-1

glumdalclitch, Sunday, 4 March 2012 09:50 (fourteen years ago)

That King demo is so wonderfully spooky. Thanks for posting that.

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Sunday, 4 March 2012 09:56 (fourteen years ago)

; )

buzza, Sunday, 4 March 2012 10:04 (fourteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxBM9IiIEDY&feature=related

Pretty sure I found out about this song from ILX. Davy's channeling of Grace Slick is super spooky (0:43).

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 4 March 2012 15:25 (fourteen years ago)

^^^ that's Mickey.

Ham House showdown (Dan Peterson), Monday, 5 March 2012 17:52 (fourteen years ago)

holy shit re: the Carole King demo

Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Monday, 5 March 2012 17:56 (fourteen years ago)

Changes is pretty good, too, if you like things like Kasenetz/Katz records or the Archies. It's Jeff Barry, Andy Kim, and Bobby Bloom - obviously, those guys bring a lot to the table. Davy didn't like it apparently. He seems to have gotten himself into an even more difficult situation with his contract with Bell afterwards, although I haven't heard those records (except for "Girl," obviously!).

timellison, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 03:00 (fourteen years ago)

Peter Tork piece.

timellison, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 03:01 (fourteen years ago)

that is excellent

Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:17 (fourteen years ago)

Avoid the comments section, as per usual..

Mark G, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:34 (fourteen years ago)

I think this should be the case for ANY article online, unless you really want to stoke any feelings of misanthropy.

It was a really nice story.

Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:38 (fourteen years ago)

David came bouncing over to me and yelled above the volume, "WE'RE GONNA FORM A GROUP!"

Love this.

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:43 (fourteen years ago)

and this:

http://images.channeladvisor.com/Sell/SSProfiles/12000635/Images/113/081227982805.jpg

Mark G, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:55 (fourteen years ago)

holy shit re: the Carole King demo

― Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Monday, March 5, 2012 11:56 AM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i have two CDs of king demos, they are ace.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:19 (fourteen years ago)

I have not watched the sitcom in close to 40 years -- is it amusing? Less or more surreal than Green Acres?

Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:30 (fourteen years ago)

also can we talk about great tunes from king's psychedelic period?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yodok8wBv0g

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:31 (fourteen years ago)

I have not watched the sitcom in close to 40 years -- is it amusing? Less or more surreal than Green Acres?

― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, March 7, 2012 2:30 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It's...okay. People can overstate how anarchic and zany it is; it's definitely more Help! than A Hard Day's Night, but if you did say "what do I imagine a network TV weekly episodic version of Help! would have been like," it's slightly better than that. And the songs are good. I'm going to a Davy tribute night next week where they're showing Head and some selected episodes; I'll report back afterwards!

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:29 (fourteen years ago)

Nesmith talks to Rolling Stone

Mike Love Costume Jewelry on Etsy (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 8 March 2012 23:46 (fourteen years ago)

five months pass...

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/surviving-monkees-to-launch-first-tour-in-15-years-20120808

timellison, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 17:33 (thirteen years ago)

I had thought Tork was in bad health...? I'm glad he's well enough to do this. I thought the thread revive might be a Tork RIP or something about Nesmith's upcoming London shows.

Your sweet bippy is going to hell (WmC), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 17:36 (thirteen years ago)

maybe a year late, Nesmith?

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 17:41 (thirteen years ago)

DAVY JONES HOLOGRAM.

Jeremy Spencer Slid in Class Today (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 18:39 (thirteen years ago)

"This seems like a good time to do this – the right time" (now that Davy, who I hated, is dead)

Get wolves (DL), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 18:41 (thirteen years ago)

yeah hard to miss that subtext there

keeping things contextual (DJP), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 18:42 (thirteen years ago)

Missed the quote marks on DL's post at first glance, and was thinking he said now is a good time to see a reunion, now that Davy's dead. He *was* my least favorite of the pre-fab four, though.

Ermahgerd Thomas (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 18:53 (thirteen years ago)

eleven months pass...

seeing them in one week's time

Uncle Cyril O'Boogie (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 26 July 2013 04:30 (twelve years ago)

Set List from one of the first dates:

"Last Train To Clarksville"
"Papa Gene's Blues"
"Your Auntie Grizelda"
"The Kind Of Girl I Could Love"
"She"
"Sweet Young Thing"
"I'm a Believer"
"(I'm Not Your) Steppin' Stone"
"You Told Me"
"Sunny Girlfriend"
"You Just May Be the One"
"Mary, Mary"
"The Girl I Knew Somewhere"
"Early Morning Blues And Greens"
"Randy Scouse Git"
"For Pete's Sake"
"No Time"
"Words"
"Daily Nightly"
"Tapioca Tundra"
"Goin' Down"
"Porpoise Song"
"Can You Dig It? "
"Circle Sky"
"As We Go Along"
"Daddy's Song"
"Long Title: Do I Have to Do This All Over Again"
"Daydream Believer"
"What Am I Doing Hangin' 'Round?"

Encore:
"Listen To The Band"
"Peter Percival Patterson's Pet Pig Porky"
"Pleasant Valley Sunday"

Uncle Cyril O'Boogie (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 26 July 2013 04:35 (twelve years ago)

my wife is going to the show in austin next week, she has never seen mike nesmith who is her favorite so she is stoked

neil degrasse (m bison), Friday, 26 July 2013 14:29 (twelve years ago)

That's actually a really cool setlist. Love the big sequence of "Head" tracks near the end. Also:

Encore: "Peter Percival Patterson's Pet Pig Porky"

HAHAHA classic!

Byron E. Coli (Dan Peterson), Friday, 26 July 2013 14:45 (twelve years ago)

yeah, that one made me double-take! Pretty great set-list really.

Doctor Casino, Friday, 26 July 2013 17:19 (twelve years ago)

well here's today's Spotify listening decided

My Buddy® of sexting (DJP), Friday, 26 July 2013 17:43 (twelve years ago)

seeing them in one week's time

― Uncle Cyril O'Boogie (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, July 25, 2013 11:30 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

And so I did. A nice night out. Sadly, they've dropped "Daily Nightly" & "Peter Percival Patterson's Pet Pig Porky" (I'm rather ticked about the former actually). The venue was an 'in the round' place with an overstuffed stationary stage (the 13th Floor Elevators cut an unreleased at the time live album there), and even though I had kind of a shitty seat over on the side, I was still about 20' from Nesmith. Tork's probably the MVP, he was running wireless and frequently played and sang--in surprisingly fine voice--to all areas of the house.

If you're going to any of the remaining shows, be sure to get there early as they are playing a nicely curated program of clips (commercials, stuff from the show, promo films of tracks they don't do live--RIP Davy) before the show starts.

Uncle Cyril O'Boogie (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 2 August 2013 04:05 (twelve years ago)

nine months pass...

http://popdose.com/5-reasons-why-this-monkees-tour-matters/

Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 30 May 2014 18:56 (twelve years ago)

I don't think this has been posted previously? Diane Hildebrand's original "Early Morning Blues and Greens":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBIj9E38h2E

wild-eyed, high-volume bursts of pious indignation (Dan Peterson), Friday, 30 May 2014 19:27 (twelve years ago)

one year passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMa1yJdcEyU

This song is so fun! Early Beatles mode but the background vocals are super trippy.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 26 June 2015 02:34 (ten years ago)

I watched "Behind the Music" earlier and it's too bad they split w Kirshner they could have made some great proto-glam/proto-punk bubblegum singles.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 26 June 2015 02:36 (ten years ago)

Apart from their producers tho, they were a really good secret untrained drone rock band.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 26 June 2015 02:54 (ten years ago)

'headquarters' is my wife's fav monkees album

not a garbageman, i am garbage, man (m bison), Friday, 26 June 2015 03:12 (ten years ago)

they did make at least one classic proto-glam/proto-punk bubblegum single- stepping stone! and yeah, they also had some great drone rock- see "sweet young thing". that said the split with kirshner definitely propelled them to new artistic heights; kirshner never would've let them get away with something like "writing wrongs".

rushomancy, Friday, 26 June 2015 11:41 (ten years ago)

one month passes...

I'm watching In the Heat of the Night, and I had no idea until I looked it up that the two guys who do "Foul Owl on the Prowl" (the song the creepy diner guy plays on the jukebox) were also responsible for this great Monkees imitation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0tPpu5OiPI

clemenza, Monday, 3 August 2015 02:23 (ten years ago)

They are also responsible for "What Am I Doin' Hangin' 'Round" from PAC&JL.

Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 3 August 2015 03:04 (ten years ago)

one month passes...

Full Blu-Ray set early next year:

http://monkeesstore.warnermusic.com/music/the-monkees-complete-tv-series-blu-ray.html

Contains _Head_ and _33 1/3 Revolutions Per Monkee_ as well. Specs:

-10 Blu-ray discs
-58 episodes
-Newly remastered in stunning HD from the original negatives for the very first time, plus the 1969 TV Special "33 1/3 Revolutions Per Monkee"
-The 1968 Monkees film "HEAD" in HD with never-before-seen outtakes
-Also includes bonus material, commentaries from all four Monkees, original Kellogg's Monkees commercials and more
-This fan-only edition includes exclusive packaging and a 7" featuring two previously unreleased TV mixes
-Strictly limited to 10,000 individually numbered sets
-Shipping January 2016
-Only available at monkees.com

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 8 September 2015 16:13 (ten years ago)

Ehhhh...I was recently thinking about buying the newish DVD sets because they're super-cheap compared to the old Rhino sets. I'm not sure the perks of this thing outweigh the expense for me. Sounds pretty sweet, though.

Fancy Fantasies (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 8 September 2015 16:36 (ten years ago)

My plan to get my relatives to buy this for me as a gift is backfiring and now I think I'm going to end up with a rabid penguin ;_;

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Tuesday, 8 September 2015 16:39 (ten years ago)

Just heard that Boomer Castleman, of co-leader with Michael Martin Murphey of Monkee labelmates and Nesmith friends The Lewis & Clarke Expedition (discussed in the last revive) died last week.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roCAC4qFhQA

Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 8 September 2015 18:45 (ten years ago)

two months pass...

Restoration compare/contrast video up:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq4CQr2Ld6k

Ned Raggett, Friday, 4 December 2015 00:34 (ten years ago)


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