Is SPIN really circling the drain?

if we just write articles in this thread will whiney print them in spin magazine

gonna try to respond to all this in a reasoned and mature manner

xp perhaps a cool drink of water as well

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/11/18/article-1331022-0C226055000005DC-868_468x276.jpg
WHINEY. WHINEY!

having a giant multi-page article all about how its subject has 'mystique' because they refused to give an interview unless they were put on the cover of the issue was just sad, y'all shoulda either took the bait and put Danny Ocean on the cover or just shitcanned the whole article

i mean, usually I would agree with you! I think if P4ste or someone tried to do a writearound about something about Bowerbirds it would bring megalols for days, but I think someone like a Julianne Shephard can really bring something like that to life. The piece wasn't about Frank Ocean it's about Julianne's writing, which is powerhouse.

the david lynch crossover article was kind of interesting but i sort of hated that newfound high-brow tone in which spin/writers didn't feel they needed to establish anything. i just kept reading line after line waiting for some sort of description as to how it all relates but was mostly culling information from other sources and experience (i.e., already knowing lana del ray's schtick and sound)... nonetheless, it succeeded in making me realize how this is actually a "phenom" and kind of made me sick to be such a vehement david lynch fan in my, from this point, past life

idgi... the piece didn't show how it all relates but succeeded in showing you that lots of things are related? And you're mad that I actually called sources instead of just made stuff up?

hey whiney the reader for this old Ward Sutton strip about Davy Jones is fucked up, it just keeps reloading the second and third panel over and over

I 've looked at it on two computers and it works fine for me! Clear your cache maybe? Are you using an old browser?

The content is great, but that light blue font in the "Guide" section is next to impossible to read on a tablet.

this is actually good to know and I'll pass the word along!

SCRATCHED: Is this Spin’s last stand?

― don weiner, Wednesday, February 25, 2004 9:34 PM (8 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I 've looked at it on two computers and it works fine for me! Clear your cache maybe? Are you using an old browser?

yeah tbh but I am at work so

the formatting thing is a big deal tho, it is kinda offensive to both readers and the artist to transform a big drawing into a click-through listicle. I bet Kelly from the Onion would draw something frowning in response about the liberal media trying to give honest Americans RSI >:(

I would usually agree with you! But--unlike, say Complex or Quietus--the way the redesign has it set up where a) you don't have to scroll the site or move your mouse AT ALL to actually click through and b) it just changes the image instead of RELAODING THE PAGE every time. I think it makes for a pretty satisfying user experience tbh.

not AS satisfying a user experience as seeing a single page of comics on a single page and reading it!

for eg if you want to go back and cross-reference a character or line in panel 3 with one in panel 14 you have to click back and forth a dozen times, or open a new window and drag it over and position it side-by-side, and THEN click through to the right spot etc etc

but big props for being so dave cool abt ppl griping on this thread

yow, that twin peaks/reverb culture/LDR piece is amazing, whiney. and kind of intimidating, but in a good way. useful, i guess, and the closing summary is perfect. not sure why i'd turn kelpo off on lynch though...

i mean, usually I would agree with you! I think if P4ste or someone tried to do a writearound about something about Bowerbirds it would bring megalols for days, but I think someone like a Julianne Shephard can really bring something like that to life. The piece wasn't about Frank Ocean it's about Julianne's writing, which is powerhouse.

ehhhhh imo if you're gonna do a thinkpiece, do a thinkpiece -- i didn't miss the lack of Lana Del Rey quotes in the Reynolds piece because he's just weaving her into a larger narrative. making the lack of an interview a huge part of the FO article and trying to compensate for it by quoting his tweets and his managers/handlers and trying to make them seem more profound and illuminating than they really were was the main problem with it.

There was quotes from Lana in the Del Rey piece

and thanks, contenderizer! I'm really proud of the way that one came out!

did SR interview her or just pepper in quotes from other sources? i thought it was the latter but it's been a week or so since i read it so maybe i'm misremembering

Simon interviewed her.

oh ok, my bad

btw not trying to put you in a shitty position of diplomatically defending or deflecting criticism of colleagues on a public forum, i just figured right now would be the time when you're pretty eager to hear any honest feedback

I'll mean, I'll always defend stuff that needs defending, whether I work there or not: Simon interviewed Lana, Julianne's piece is great and I liked reading Sutton's comic that way.

i've read that sutton comic before on the page in book format; that's always going to be preferable. as a comic nerd i'm quick to say that panel by panel click forward reading is like watching a film where you have to push a button every three seconds to keep it going.

oh i'm not saying you're saying anything just to be nice or a team player, but y'know (xpost)

also speaking of comics, the webcomic article could've used a little dose of whiney vitriol about how many completely awful unfunny webcomics there are

whiney i just wanted to say i'm really proud of u

aw, thx....

also speaking of comics, the webcomic article could've used a little dose of whiney vitriol about how many completely awful unfunny webcomics there are

― some dude, Friday, March 2, 2012 12:29 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Just because something is on the web doesn';t make it a web comic in my head. I think of things that look like photoshop drew them and are for worthless internet WoW-playing life-failures (Questionable Content, Penny Arcade, xkcd, Achewood) as "web comics" and stuff that looks like a human drew them (Ward Sutton, PBF, that one where like Jane Eyre says like droll anachronistic thing whatever the fuck its called) as "COMICS"

Whatever that last one is called, I always like it when i see it!

Wondermark?

worthless internet WoW-playing life-failures

you should incorporate this phrase into the magazine. require at least one writer per issue to use it, kinda like how writers for The Wire have to incorporate the phrase "hypnagogic pop" (or at least that's what it seems like)

xpost

Ugggghhhh fuck no. Wondermark is like "worthless internet WoW-playing life-failures" but then add "They Might be Giants superfan"

can you do a feature on uncle acid?

Hark, A Vagrant

^ that's it!

i don't think whiney should work too hard at making any catchphrases happen until "billyburg beardos" or "tumblr whites" has reached a tipping point

Ugggghhhh fuck no. Wondermark is like "worthless internet WoW-playing life-failures" but then add "They Might be Giants Community superfan"

― what's a goon to garbus (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, March 2, 2012 3:12 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

aww he could abbreviate it WIWLF - and it could be pronounced as "wih-wolf"

well that pretty succinctly describes why I like Wondermark so much, although I haven't played WoW in like 8-9 months

see u on 9gag

seriously, it could be like how Sassy used to have Cute Band Alerts, you could have the WIWLF Alert -- things that are new and trendy in that demographic -- and it would involve a drawing of a chubby bearded guy in a wolf shirt

WIWLF doesn't have the frisson of self-indictment of the other whiney insults that force him to come up with insane technicalities like 'i live in a DIFFERENT part of brooklyn' or 'i use TWITTER not tumblr'

haha

'i watch PARKS AND REC, not the drew glover meta aspie hour'

offended on behalf of a cat named roast beef

aww he could abbreviate it WIWLF - and it could be pronounced as "wih-wolf" "wu lyf"

seriously, it could be like how Sassy used to have Cute Band Alerts, you could have the WIWLF Alert -- things that are new and trendy in that demographic -- and it would involve a drawing of a chubby bearded guy in a wolf shirt

― sarahell, Friday, March 2, 2012 3:19 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

How about the some dude butthurt hour

'tumblr whites' has got to go places

xp but it might do that for some of Spin's readers?

why would my ridicule come from a place of butthurt if the closest any of those comes to describing me more than you is 'watches the wrong network television show'?

force him to come up with insane technicalities like 'i live in a DIFFERENT part of brooklyn'

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_YclQxUm3oNo/TPZ7eSBXcHI/AAAAAAAAC3Q/09PYYZjT6QQ/s200/ChFa-Matt%2BFoley.jpg

Hey, Dad, I can't see real good... is that Fred Armisen over there?

tumblr whites just makes me think of laundry

I would read a bi-monthly "Whiney builds a strawman" column

it's called ilx