Hope J. spends as much time editing as he does mixing this.
Also: Huh?
― Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Friday, 24 February 2012 20:15 (fourteen years ago)
Wonder if Jason ever heard this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6oqgS35_2w
― Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Friday, 24 February 2012 22:42 (fourteen years ago)
I'm sure he did
― "HUH?" (admrl), Friday, 24 February 2012 22:57 (fourteen years ago)
cover:http://cdn2.pitchfork.com/news/45536/9680614a.jpgout via Fat Possum in the U.S. on April 17 and Double Six on April 16.
― Bee OK, Saturday, 25 February 2012 01:25 (fourteen years ago)
Did Peter Saville's secretary design this album cover too?
― ma ck ro ma ck ro (mackro mackro), Saturday, 25 February 2012 05:49 (fourteen years ago)
pretty good sez I
― Artful Dodderer (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 17:26 (fourteen years ago)
What. A. Jam.
Had a long long drive in the sun yesterday, wish I had been able to play this song on repeat. Awesome.
― HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 5 March 2012 13:48 (fourteen years ago)
As much as I love Spiritualized (a lot), the sound of 20 musicians breaking down and playing whatever, the [insert noise here] moments, they are the musical equivalent of stock footage. Great song though
― an elk hunt (Ówen P.), Monday, 5 March 2012 15:04 (fourteen years ago)
I can't hear any [insert noise here] stock moments in the new song, although I know what you mean.
― HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 5 March 2012 20:06 (fourteen years ago)
This is streaming on NPR. Very excited to give it a listen, I love Hey Jane.
― Kitchen Person, Monday, 9 April 2012 18:52 (fourteen years ago)
thought the cover art was an img loading error :(
― Disco Bob & MC Criminal (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 9 April 2012 18:54 (fourteen years ago)
Last couple of albums were a big letdown for me, don't like his new "raw" sound at all. Probably won't be checking this new one out unless it is supposed to be a major improvement.
― Moodles, Monday, 9 April 2012 18:56 (fourteen years ago)
first sound on this is ornate strings, moodles
also songs in a&e wasn't raw at all, i think
― Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Monday, 9 April 2012 20:17 (fourteen years ago)
oh haha this is really great
the refined songwriting of let it come down meets the jazz freakout nature of the live show, finally
― Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Monday, 9 April 2012 20:39 (fourteen years ago)
This is a really good album. It's probably most similar to Let It Come Down especially with the use of strings but unlike that album it doesn't seem to drag as much. Hey Jane is easily the best thing on here but I enjoyed just about every song. I liked the last album but this one just feels so much more focused. I wasn't really paying much attention to the lyrics but that's not really why I listen to this band.
It's a similar situation to the latest Tindersticks album, no massive surprises just a really strong album that's probably their best in over a decade. Reminds me of why I fell for them in the first place.
― Kitchen Person, Monday, 9 April 2012 20:43 (fourteen years ago)
can't wait for this. been on a massive spiritualized trip of late.despite it not doing anything different to the formula i loved 'hey jane'just hope there is a standard jewel case version of the album as opposed to the usual packaging gubbins that jason likes to mess up.[though i did like the glow in the dark version of pure phase]
― mark e, Monday, 9 April 2012 21:43 (fourteen years ago)
NPR stream
this sounds pretty great
― Disco Bob & MC Criminal (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 9 April 2012 21:56 (fourteen years ago)
whoa, the video for this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9U_EqgBWnmc
― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Monday, 9 April 2012 21:58 (fourteen years ago)
def on some Let It Come Down arrangements-tip here
― Disco Bob & MC Criminal (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 9 April 2012 22:05 (fourteen years ago)
def also way better than the last two
― Disco Bob & MC Criminal (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 9 April 2012 22:22 (fourteen years ago)
fuck this is REALLY good
― Disco Bob & MC Criminal (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 9 April 2012 22:34 (fourteen years ago)
the video is proper 0_Oi just hope the album has the complete 10 min version.honest
― mark e, Monday, 9 April 2012 23:59 (fourteen years ago)
bleah, fuck that video
cool song though
― preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 00:12 (fourteen years ago)
i mean, i kind of like it in some ways (the vid), but did not need that massive dose of brutality and negativity atm
this sounds really unpolished to me on the first listen. If he spent a year mixing it, I don't know what the hell he did. Things like Little Girl don't sound cohesive at all.
― I'm not going leftfield on you... (hypehat), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 00:22 (fourteen years ago)
This is a really good album. It's probably most similar to Let It Come Down especially with the use of strings but unlike that album it doesn't seem to drag as much. Hey Jane is easily the best thing on here but I enjoyed just about every song. I liked the last album but this one just feels so much more focused. I wasn't really paying much attention to the lyrics but that's not really why I listen to this band.It's a similar situation to the latest Tindersticks album, no massive surprises just a really strong album that's probably their best in over a decade. Reminds me of why I fell for them in the first place.― Kitchen Person, Monday, April 9, 2012 4:43 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
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otm in every respect!
hypehat, re: mixing -- i think he made some interesting and kinda bold mixing choices; i'd give it another chance. like how low in the mix the drums are on Get What You Deserve. also, i'm assuming you've only listened to a stream and/or webrip, so that could be the source of some of your sound quality woes.
as far as the video goes, it's the best i've seen all year. it's images have affected the way i hear the entire album. and not just their brutality, but the way they juxtapose misery with the music's ecstasy -- an ideal J has been pursuing for his whole career, imo. and i'd say that's pretty much what a successful video is supposed to do.
― caulk the wagon and float it, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 01:58 (fourteen years ago)
so happy the mood is positive about this record and i love Let It Come Down so this is a win-win.
can't wait to hear this.
― Bee OK, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 03:50 (fourteen years ago)
It sounds a little better off headphones, granted, and I've got the vinyl coming some time this week so I'll wait til that before saying too much. And some of it does sound wonderful, like Life Is A Problem and Hey Jane (Greatest thing he's done in years), but I guess I was a little bit spoiled by seeing it at the Albert Hall - I think I was expecting the same massive sweep that he got at that show, and he's clearly not going for that here all the time. It's much more intimate, even to a fault, than Let It Come Down or maybe even A&E - his vocals are really the centrepoint. It's like the closet mix of The Velvets' S/T or something.
― I'm not going leftfield on you... (hypehat), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 09:42 (fourteen years ago)
he put his vocals way up front on Amazing Grace and A&E too but it works better here. songs are stronger, I think.
― Disco Bob & MC Criminal (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 17:12 (fourteen years ago)
also I know next-to-nobody gives any credence to his lyrics but he gets some funny zingers off on this one imho
i think the triteness of his lyrics is actually one of the band's many great qualities. it's like every rock n roll cliche boiled down to it's purest essence.
― caulk the wagon and float it, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 17:50 (fourteen years ago)
its*
― caulk the wagon and float it, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 17:51 (fourteen years ago)
Whilst that video wouldn't be my first choice for promotional material, I think this is ridiculous. 'Pain porn for white boys'?!http://www.collapseboard.com/reviews/albums-reviews/spiritualized-sweet-heart-sweet-light-fat-possum/
― I'm not going leftfield on you... (hypehat), Thursday, 12 April 2012 11:41 (fourteen years ago)
I really disliked Hey Jane when I heard it, maybe it sounds better in some context other than the radio but it just felt clunky. Then again I've never particularly liked Spiritualized rockers.
― Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Thursday, 12 April 2012 12:37 (fourteen years ago)
I don’t give a shit about notions of authenticity.
hmm rest of the piece indicates otherwise
― Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 12 April 2012 15:42 (fourteen years ago)
But if a middle-aged white man from Rugby, trailing his privilege and his money and his production vales behind him like old school ties, appropriates the experience and style and musical tropes of the vulnerable and the oppressed he had better tread extremely carefully.
Glad that someone's finally had the balls to call out middle-class white men for appropriating music made by poor black people. Bold.
― And I have been called "The Appetite" (DL), Thursday, 12 April 2012 17:31 (fourteen years ago)
Smithers, have the Rolling Stones killed
― Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 12 April 2012 17:35 (fourteen years ago)
I don’t like that said whiney, white, self-pitying, copyist, imagination-free, privilege-flaunting cisman from England has used this story and these characters from waaaaaaaaaaay outside his experience, knowledge or culture as entertainment, however much Art has given him a hall pass to do so.
Ugh, she sound like Rik from the Young Ones.
Taking someone to task for being cisgender? Is Wendy Carlos her only musical hero? Wth?
― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Thursday, 12 April 2012 17:37 (fourteen years ago)
Really having a rough time making it through that first paragraph.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 12 April 2012 17:37 (fourteen years ago)
"Because Art has LICENCE"
I really hope the writer is 15, otherwise I feel a lot of second hand embarrassment for her right now.
― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Thursday, 12 April 2012 17:39 (fourteen years ago)
would she have preferred a video of Jason participating in a genteel fox hunt wot wot
― Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 12 April 2012 17:42 (fourteen years ago)
(fwiw I couldn't make it past like 0:30 second mark of the video, have no interest in it - none of Spiritualized's videos have ever been interesting imho)
― Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 12 April 2012 17:43 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah the video just comes across as more or less trolling, like the album cover. Capital-S SHOCK & Exploitation where you coulda just put up some cool psychedelic swirls.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 12 April 2012 18:21 (fourteen years ago)
As a value-neutral description of spiritualized, their music and the way they construct cool, the review is pretty accurate. Problem is that it's anything but value-neutral. It presents itself as a furious, devastating condemnation, and on that level, it's mostly just silly. Spiritualized's rock and roll costume play isn't any worse or different than what the Jesus and Mary Chain and Primal Scream (and Spacemen 3, come on) were up to decades ago. Recycled cool isn't necessarily objectionable, so long as the recycling is honest about itself. Jason's never tried to hide his appropriations. In fact, I'd say that he makes second-handness the focus of his work.
As protest against that repulsive video, the review is painfully overstated, but I understand where the author is coming from. The video is an ugly, insulting, sensationalistic and exploitative piece of shit.
‘Hey Jane’ wears its NSFW like a smug little badge and is a 10 minute long micro-film about a black transvestite prostitute with a small and frightened child who ends up beaten to a bloody pulp by a repressed and shamed white trick. It is repellent and upsetting and I don’t care what Art is allowed to do, I don’t like it. I don’t like the fact that every fist fall, every crunch of boot on facial bones, is filmed in detail and at length. I don’t like what it appears to be saying about people.
― BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Thursday, 12 April 2012 19:16 (fourteen years ago)
The entirety of the content seems to be:
"EDGY!!!!!"
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 12 April 2012 19:25 (fourteen years ago)
that's what i call review the Idea of an Album rather than the album itself. her descriptions are abstracted so far out from actual musical sounds that it's as if she's rebutting an essay J Spaceman wrote about "How To Make Rock" and not reviewing a collection of songs. like, she could've written that whole diatribe without actually listening to the album, basing it on a passing knowledge of what Spiritualized's music sounds like.
― caulk the wagon and float it, Thursday, 12 April 2012 19:32 (fourteen years ago)
and because the amount of chatter that surround every album release nowadays, i notice reviewers doing this more and more. their reviews are an objection to others' reasons for liking an album and not an objection to weak music. this happened SO MUCH with the drake album last year. it was like "i don't like drake because whining and being conflicted about being ultra-rich should not be a topic of music," which is ridiculous. or "i don't like spiritualized because they reference common musical tropes which is TOTES INAUTHENTIC." what matters with drake or with spiritualized is not what they're doing, but how well they do it. which is very well, if you ask me.
― caulk the wagon and float it, Thursday, 12 April 2012 19:35 (fourteen years ago)
wow there's some grammatical nightmares going on in my posts, sorry yalls
― caulk the wagon and float it, Thursday, 12 April 2012 19:53 (fourteen years ago)
On second reading I've warmed a bit to that piece. She's obviously young and it's better to be writing furious, passionate, overheated screeds than stiff approximations of a 150-word Mojo/Rolling Stone album review.
Though she should have just called it a blog about the video rather than a review of an album I'm not sure she's listened to. And caulk's point about the ongoing trend of reviewing the discourse rather than the music is OTM, but she's hardly alone in that.
― And I have been called "The Appetite" (DL), Thursday, 12 April 2012 19:58 (fourteen years ago)
cop heroin shoot heroin cop heroin
cop shoots another cop with a gun
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 24 May 2012 19:53 (fourteen years ago)
rmde at you people
lmfao@upeeps
― Poliopolice, Thursday, 24 May 2012 19:56 (fourteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwC7n8q-oHQ
― my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Tuesday, 3 July 2012 10:21 (thirteen years ago)
New Jason interview: http://drownedinsound.com/in_depth/4145686-i-think-festivals-are-the-death-of-art-dis-meets-jason-pierce-from-spiritualized
Worth reading. Nice to have Jason fully back again
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 2 November 2012 02:25 (thirteen years ago)
Apparently he played new songs and keyboards at last nights show. Maybe I should go when he hits Brighton...
― insert witticism here (hypehat), Friday, 2 November 2012 13:13 (thirteen years ago)
interesting interview. he has funny opinions.
― Force Boxman (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 2 November 2012 16:02 (thirteen years ago)
New songs - one a drippy sounding waltzy ballad which had a few zingers and got progressively less lovely as it went. Not bad, called A Perfect Miracle iirc.
Other one was this insanely heavy one chord blues which lasted about 8 minutes and lyrics revolving around 'one man's x is another man's y' and I could have sworn he was saying 'hoo-rah' a lot. But they were playing so loud his wittering was hard to make out.
But he ended up playing most of the new record (which gets a bit dull live), with the exception of Take Your Time, Ladies & Gents, and a version of Electric Mainline that was the loudest thing I've ever heard. Ever managed to drown the drummer out towards the end, just this massive sound/huge bass. But J was playing tonnes of intricate guitar stuff and keyboards, and even got his daughter out onstage to sing that song she's on on the new record.
― insert witticism here (hypehat), Thursday, 8 November 2012 14:24 (thirteen years ago)
Saw them tonight, they played COME DOWN EASY in the encore.
Agreed about the new songs, "A Perfect Miracle" is corny but still all right, but the eight minute one chord blues thing was a major highlight of the concert.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 12 November 2012 00:57 (thirteen years ago)
Is Huh? a universal word
― Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 10 November 2013 22:02 (twelve years ago)