teengirl fantasy, miracles club, mi ami, 100% silk and the rise of HIPSTER HOUSE: S/D

or more accurately, new EP in March.

http://www.xosar.com/

^^ hipster or not hipster??

also file under secret crush of shame

legowelt connection = not hipster

Had no idea that Legowelt was such an influence on people until this trend.

legowelt's secret hipster gf shame

no shame involved whatsoever imo

Yeah, not sure what shame has to do with it. But there's this name-checking of Legowelt by a wide range of new artists now. I saw Geeta interviewing Dan Lopatin a few weeks back and he was talking about some dude in college with a shared iTunes folder that he discovered tons of music through, and mentioned Legowelt in particular.

I have vague memories of listening to Legowelt around 2001-02 and thinking it was another artist lumped into electroclash...

likewise, but I associated him with the viewlexx/clone/bunker stuff, which was lumped into electroclash rightly, but was the more respectable (musicaly speaking) aspect! He's friends with a lot of the techno/house DJs in NY like Speculator and Ron Morelli who, as discussed above, while coming from a solid and longtime dance music/scene background, are getting lumped into this thread/discussion due to involvement with these artists.

doesn't making a video with hausu clips in it immediately make you hipster?

oh the shame

let's return to deciding who can make music, that was a brilliant part of this thread.

no1 shld make music we already have enuff

but this is a p good jam imo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzzNTwgkegw

ital's "israel" blowing my mind right now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcRr3W4uQXM

that Xosar 12" is great

Just listening to 'Israel', strikes me how much this is really 'post-internet' house music, as much as I'm skeptical of that term. Is this Reynolds' argument in Retromania with NNF, etc.? I haven't read it yet.

Shout out itt to Rose Quartz for covering interesting parts of this stuff btw.

the idea of post-internet anything strikes me as really begging the question

as a point of fact, it is "post-internet", in the sense that some people only made house tracks before the internet blew up (armando), some people made house tracks before and after the internet blew up (armand van helden) and some people only made house tracks after the internet blew up (ital, for one)

now you can project anything you want onto that and it's hard to argue the point

i really like this ital album though i don't think it sounds like hipster house.

track 1: sounds like mark e remixing the chemical brothers "doesn't matter". hipster maybe, slow motion house maybe, but not hipster house.

track 2: sounds like shed! or carl craig's old psyche tracks. detroit techno?

track 3: i was just thinking it also reminded me of actress and then track three came on! hipster dubstep.

track 4: sounds like some EYE OOOOOO boredoms remix crap, still hipster, still not house.

track 5: this is the only one that sounds like a 100% silk cover looks, maybe hipster house

**** 1/2

actually the last track sounds kinda like moodymann, kinda like idjut boys, kinda like something else i can't place, like early gene farris or a faze action remix or something

this is not "hipster house" to me in the sense that something like black meteoric star or miracles club is

i agree with psychgawsple upthread: unless you really wanna make an issue of pedigree "hive mind" (on purely sonic qualities) is not any more outsider than someone like i:cube is

miko, no the idea isn't from that book. the term started getting circulated by Grimes

xxxxxp

and I don't see anything wrong with exploring the different connections in things. it allows the discussion around the music, and the development of the music itself, to become about more than just a commentary on form - who the artist references, etc. projection/reflecting/narrative building is a good thing.

I think the term is from Marisa Olsen: http://122909a.com/ But it's so vaguely/badly defined that it seems more of a 'vibe' thing imo. My hunch would be simply that it comes down to producing house music primarily from experiencing it via the web and internet (YouTube, blogs, filesharing), rather than the club or record store. The Reynolds reference I'm thinking of for the sense of network culture as basically involved in an immense archive, the future is analogue and archaeological.

marisa olsen is talking about things that are less substantial than the artificial categories she creates to describe them

painting is a meme? get the fuck out of here.

gnomic mindrave forgetfulness

I'm very interested in this idea, but how does finding and listening to music via the interweb very different from finding records in a record store, a friend telling you to check out a record. Does the original source of the music really make the outcome more of What? I'm not really into this hipster house, but how different are these guys methods of sourcing music really any different from a crate digger, aside from the amount of the work involved? I am missing the point of post internet?

yes

dude because when you find music by surfin the web, pictures of cats saying funny things pop up and control the vibe

JacobSanders, the difference is of quantity, access, and as a result more of an openness to all forms. things really haven't been the same ever since Napster.

and it's not like cratedigging was ever the norm before, most people, even hardcore music fans, usually stuck to one or two areas, and the exceptions were just exploring what media was making inevitable (and the Net would fulfill)

??

what is this inevitable thing that the net fulfilled

that people would become more familiar with, and open to, every style

and obv you're trolling about the "vibes"... but tbf those are the kind of terms a lot of the US underground describes/frames its music in - a lot of talk about 'vibes', the occult, media terrains etc. there's even a self-consciously 'memetic' angle with some of the newer styles, like a media animism trip or something... which might sound odd to someone coming from an outside scene/background, but the discourse here is what it is. I mean interpret/read things through whatever framework you prefer, but this stuff is in there

that people would become more familiar with, and open to, every style

did this happen? i missed it.

well, i suspect it has happened for a lot of people on ilx...

I'd say average music fans have become a lot more open to the various basic styles than they used to be, while hardcore music geeks accumulate knowledge on a much wider selection of genres as well. I mean, there are still some metal kids or garage rock types that don't stray very far, but I think that's become much rarer

not to say that everyone is an expert on everything now, but there does seem to be a new breed of hardcore music geek/artist that wants to explore it all (all as in even soft pop, trance, etc as opposed to just minimalism, kraut rock, Italian soundtracks)

did you conclude this through empirical evidence or what

the late great can you review steve moore's tumblr for us now

my review: it's 100% awesome and essential

my review: oh, i'm not the only fourth-grader who played car wars and read omni magazine in 1985? why didn't i make a career of it?

also is this tumblr supposed to stand if for some sort of post-internet embrace of everything?

if so why is it all samey hipster shit?

there are no h1psters anymore

but i thought you might like the panther moderns 12"/also have some insights for us

tumblr is completely stupid but the tunes man

first impressions: if i was choosing a wm gibson based band name i'd choose GOTHS VS CASUALS (from count zero)

the panthers are kind of douchey to anybody but a teenager - lupus yonderboy's adaptive camo hoodie excepted - though it would be funny to have a band called LARRY AND THE SOFTHEADS (maybe we'd call a track "mollys got a rider")

actually on second thought GOTHICKS VS KASUALS just like the book spells it

see this is why i call it hipster shit, it all depends on sly references and knowing winks

what i like about ital's "hive mind" is that it seems like a personal vision, not just a gloss or reflection of an absorbed cultural memory

clearly that's a misreading of the situation but i do think ital creates the impression effectively