Moka, you are just digging yourself a deeper hole here.
― Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 16 February 2012 03:35 (twelve years ago) link
The halloween theory... There's a corelation here: If you can dress as them in Halloween and people get who you are, your chances of becoming famous increases. That's one of the reasons why artists like say Moby, Deadmau5 and Skrillex are more succesful than their peers.
― Moka, Thursday, 16 February 2012 03:37 (twelve years ago) link
That is absolutely ridiculous.
― Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 16 February 2012 03:38 (twelve years ago) link
Populism is absolutely ridiculous.
― Moka, Thursday, 16 February 2012 03:40 (twelve years ago) link
How many pop icons with an unassuming image can you think of?
― Moka, Thursday, 16 February 2012 03:41 (twelve years ago) link
as opposed as
― Moka, Thursday, 16 February 2012 03:42 (twelve years ago) link
The halloween theory...
― ⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 16 February 2012 03:42 (twelve years ago) link
Think about it, it's pretty cool. Before propelling yourself into pop stardom you have to think "would people dress like my alter ego in halloween?".
― Moka, Thursday, 16 February 2012 03:44 (twelve years ago) link
Would Skrillex be less famous if his alias were Sonny Moore and he looked like this?:
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_loc8raubVG1qf0dk7.jpg
That is not a good Hallowen costume.
― Moka, Thursday, 16 February 2012 03:47 (twelve years ago) link
moka i think you just cracked the da vinci code of popular music
― ⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 16 February 2012 03:48 (twelve years ago) link
those halloweens past when EVERYONE was dressed like Moby
― I DIED, Thursday, 16 February 2012 03:49 (twelve years ago) link
u have to have the look, and the sound, and the moxie
― sleepingbag, Thursday, 16 February 2012 03:50 (twelve years ago) link
think abt it
― ⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 16 February 2012 03:52 (twelve years ago) link
burial would be skrillex in america now if he looked like an emo tween instead of a 'bloke'
― D-40, Thursday, 16 February 2012 04:25 (twelve years ago) link
thats completely false btw just continuing the lols
blokestep vs halloweenstep
― ⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 16 February 2012 04:31 (twelve years ago) link
it's, why him? there's thousands of dubstep artists right now that sound pretty much the same
but most of them aren't as good at writing the big cheesy pop hooks that go inbetween the 'sick drops'
― the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Thursday, 16 February 2012 04:42 (twelve years ago) link
scrillex got famous because his music is used for all the youtubed noscope vids
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 16 February 2012 04:47 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b92tVQld5J8&feature=related
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 16 February 2012 04:50 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyTFx2QxIwU&feature=related
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 16 February 2012 04:53 (twelve years ago) link
Moka is perfectly correct and what he is saying is obvious about pop music, in fact it is so obvious that I feel like everyone is saying "duh" to themselves then trolling him on here for fun? Though, yes, you have to also have compelling or slightly memorable music as well.
― Evan, Thursday, 16 February 2012 04:56 (twelve years ago) link
moka is female fyi
― ⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 16 February 2012 05:03 (twelve years ago) link
Sorry!
― Evan, Thursday, 16 February 2012 05:11 (twelve years ago) link
Apologies, Moka.
― Evan, Thursday, 16 February 2012 05:16 (twelve years ago) link
Nah don't worry. And yes they're trolling me but I'm also not very good at expressing myself. It's pop music 101.
― Moka, Thursday, 16 February 2012 05:20 (twelve years ago) link
It's a little bit image, but I would guess that a fair number of people passing on Skrillex music have no idea what the dude looks like. I mean, the "lol american electronic music" comparison is The Crystal Method and definitely no one remembers what those dudes look like.
Other acts of that stature who have done well in the US? Well, arguably, the reason this dude has done so well this time around is due to the fact pop music is definitely well into this type of sound -- notable pop artists have remixes in this style, and electro-ridden crap is huge with popular music either having acid squelches in their songs or remixes, dudes like LMFAO making a pop success of it, or people who sound like eurovision stars gaining prominence in the US pop charts.
So you have a bass music undercurrent that Skrillex isn't completely divorced from, the idea of "dubstep" (whether it relates to the original version or not) being a genre with some traction, especially among post-breakbeat and crap dnb US people, and pop music being into electro sounds culminating in popular acclaim for this dude who pretty much typifies the young person coming up with pretty shallow stuff.
idk, I'm cynical
― valleys of your mind (mh), Thursday, 16 February 2012 06:32 (twelve years ago) link
moka i am not trolling when i say this thread may be of some use:
is it brostep?
― ⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 16 February 2012 06:40 (twelve years ago) link
imo there's something intrinsic to skrillex's music that is appealing to lots of people that has very little to do w/ his image
― D-40, Thursday, 16 February 2012 06:48 (twelve years ago) link
yeah def is very zeitgeisty
― ⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 16 February 2012 06:54 (twelve years ago) link
Moka: a generation of kids grew up playing video games and listening to mall-punk/nu-metal/screamo, then went off to college and discovered club drugs. Skrillex is playing to that (apparently massive) crowd.
― plee help i am lookin for (crüt), Thursday, 16 February 2012 09:03 (twelve years ago) link
Video games : check, Nu-metal: check, club drugs: I plead the fifth.
But yeah, that's pretty much where I was at when I started listening to dubstep in 2005.
― pattern loader, Thursday, 16 February 2012 09:16 (twelve years ago) link
That being said I flat out can't dance to brostep anymore and I am just tired of all this bullshit.
― pattern loader, Thursday, 16 February 2012 09:20 (twelve years ago) link
Kids will be kids, there's nothing to "get" about Skrillex' music. crut otm .
― The Invisible Superstars (dog latin), Thursday, 16 February 2012 10:11 (twelve years ago) link
I read a story once about Russell Simmons meeting some promising young ingenue in his office. He closed the door and laid out a small pack of cards on the table. On each card was a silhouette. Simmons asked the up-and-comer who each silhouette was, and for each card it was obvious: Kid n Play. Public Enemy. Biggie. Etc. Simmons literally had the theory that people have to recognize you from your silhouette or you'll never be a superstar.
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 16 February 2012 11:50 (twelve years ago) link
How has Skrillex got so massive so quickly? I mean, do people usually win Grammies after a handful of singles?
― Matt DC, Thursday, 16 February 2012 12:16 (twelve years ago) link
I mean there's popular-among-American-fratboys massive and Grammies massive and this seems a pretty rapid ascendancy to the latter.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 16 February 2012 12:17 (twelve years ago) link
I dunno, but safesearch:moderate GIS for skrillex audience will get you a drawing of Skrillex boning a My Little Pony. This much is true.
― getting good with gulags (beachville), Thursday, 16 February 2012 12:23 (twelve years ago) link
Safesearch off GIS shows that, and the pic before it is some guy sodomising Skrillex while holding a mobile phone and saying "this is really gay, I'd better tweet about it"
― White 'Poop' Jesus (snoball), Thursday, 16 February 2012 12:26 (twelve years ago) link
Actually both images are on a Reddit thread, as is this:http://s1.static.gotsmile.net/images/2011/12/22/funny-skrillex-bee_132455836669.gif
― White 'Poop' Jesus (snoball), Thursday, 16 February 2012 12:27 (twelve years ago) link
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, February 16, 2012 6:50 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Weird, I pretty much typed this up but with Groening talking about cartooning and how to make recognizable characters, which he says exactly that, but then decided maybe it wasn't a close enough example.
― Evan, Thursday, 16 February 2012 13:42 (twelve years ago) link
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/164/teddyskrillex.jpg
― Jurgis Rudkus // Dick Butkus (Pillbox), Thursday, 16 February 2012 14:43 (twelve years ago) link
lol sry hueg
― Jurgis Rudkus // Dick Butkus (Pillbox), Thursday, 16 February 2012 14:44 (twelve years ago) link
haw
― getting good with gulags (beachville), Thursday, 16 February 2012 14:48 (twelve years ago) link
― the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Wednesday, February 15, 2012 8:42 PM Bookmark
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
― The Reverend, Thursday, 16 February 2012 16:36 (twelve years ago) link
i think someone just needs to enlighten moka on the difference b/w correlation and causation
― illuminati girl (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 16 February 2012 16:53 (twelve years ago) link
http://mrknobbymusic.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/pretty-sonny-moore-230x300.jpg
― getting good with gulags (beachville), Thursday, 16 February 2012 16:56 (twelve years ago) link
i saw a girl who looked like skrillex today.
― zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 16 February 2012 18:48 (twelve years ago) link
Did anyone... ?
https://vimeo.com/36820781
― polyphonic, Thursday, 16 February 2012 19:05 (twelve years ago) link
C'mon Tiesto became famous in the US like a decade after Europe. Even Latinamerica got Tiesto before the states.
...but tiesto is european in the first place, it's not uncommon for the us to get latepassed on anything that's not initially out of the us. he was still ridic big here regardless of where he was big first
― fauxmarc, Thursday, 16 February 2012 19:32 (twelve years ago) link
i saw a girl who looked like skrillex today.― zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Thursday, February 16, 2012 6:48 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
high places' mary pearson's in townhttp://2.bp.blogspot.com/-qtzcfa8wipk/TrbtoDe9mjI/AAAAAAAAAtk/hIJWggl0CLs/s1600/High+Places.jpg
― john terje (cozen), Thursday, 16 February 2012 23:19 (twelve years ago) link