John Talabot

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Funny coincidence - I've known Mano for ~20 years, we used to live on the same road and hang out all the time as kids. I started following his work due to the personal connection but I do think it's great music regardless.

two lights crew (seandalai), Friday, 10 February 2012 00:28 (twelve years ago) link

The only problem with "don't leave me (friendly pattern version" is that the grinding boogie-machine outro should last five minutes rather than thirty seconds.

i know right?!

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Friday, 10 February 2012 09:32 (twelve years ago) link

I used to know this guy I met on Soulseek, he sent me so many strange Chicago tracks. His username was lil808. He sent me a list of the best Dance Mania releases, with catalogue numbers, and I followed that list like it was my religion, if I saw a record with that number I’d buy it on sight, he was never wrong. I built my taste in house music via friends, forums like Global Darkness or Clone Records, it was an underground world you know. Nowadays everyone is reissuing the strange tracks I’ve known for 10 years. It’s nice now when young people approach me at the booth to find out the name of a track, ‘cos there’s lots of information out there but people don’t always have someone showing them the way. The WBMX house mixes were a big influence on me, people like Mickey Oliver from the Hot Mix 5, I was so lucky that people sent me those files. Let me be romantic – we have lost a bit of magic over the years.

FACT interview

Talabot's nostalgia for the peek Soulseek filesharing era. And I remember at that time thinking how post-underground music was...

MikoMcha, Saturday, 11 February 2012 13:09 (twelve years ago) link

When The Past Was Present and So Will Be Now are both really great. but apart from those and a couple of other tracks, i think i'm in the 'this is a bit dull' camp :(

jabba hands, Monday, 13 February 2012 16:45 (twelve years ago) link

some of the other stuff just seems sort of...throwaway

jabba hands, Monday, 13 February 2012 16:46 (twelve years ago) link

after a couple more listens, some of this is starting to stick with me. "Oro y Sangre" is pretty cool

dmr, Monday, 13 February 2012 21:45 (twelve years ago) link

dunno it it's talabot, as it's listed as "unknown", but the earth wind and fire remix in the xlr8r podcast is amazing. if it is him it is easily the best thing he's ever done.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Monday, 13 February 2012 21:48 (twelve years ago) link

It's The Temptations /pedant

Number None, Monday, 13 February 2012 22:53 (twelve years ago) link

oh shit, no it's not. Apologies

Number None, Monday, 13 February 2012 22:54 (twelve years ago) link

back in your box.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Monday, 13 February 2012 23:07 (twelve years ago) link

sorry (apology accepted)

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Monday, 13 February 2012 23:07 (twelve years ago) link

deserved. It is really good though

Number None, Monday, 13 February 2012 23:09 (twelve years ago) link

gotta thank this thread for making me listen to In Sides for the first time. also really liking the john talabot album.

lil kink (Matt P), Monday, 13 February 2012 23:49 (twelve years ago) link

love the way this record starts with a mish mash of the lush jungle of Depak Ine (my favorite track so far), the sleek cool urban Destiny and then the wonky, queasy El Oeste. the vocals on Journeys really drags it down, though (and I'm corny enough to like Panda Bear vocals).

mizzell, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 21:56 (twelve years ago) link

this is my favorite dance album in years

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 28 February 2012 16:40 (twelve years ago) link

there are some parts that almost have this carnival-esque vibe but sorta dark... in places (esp "depak ine") it reminds me of mungolian jet set if they went for something more lush and pop

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 28 February 2012 16:42 (twelve years ago) link

i agree that's it not completely face to the sun balearic but that's sorta what's nice about it, when those moments peek through it's pretty powerful

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 28 February 2012 16:44 (twelve years ago) link

I love the way, on the second track (I think?) the track just about sounds like it's going to pick up into something absolutely mindblowing but then slows down and stops.

Alexandre Dumbass (dog latin), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 16:49 (twelve years ago) link

gotta thank this thread for making me listen to In Sides for the first time

Ha! I also dug out and spun Middle of Nowhere for the first time in years.

More importantly, thanks all for the 'If This Is House I Want My Money Back Zwei' recommendation. Lovely record although, ironically, the Talabot track is one of the few I can't really get into; favourites are the Hunee and Session Victim contributions. Would love to hear more by them.

Jeff W, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 16:54 (twelve years ago) link

this was one of the best tracks of last year imo: http://soundcloud.com/sessionvictim/session-victim-good-intentions

jabba hands, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 17:50 (twelve years ago) link

Timely revive; my CD copy of this arrived today. Looking forward to listening.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 17:52 (twelve years ago) link

got this album a few days ago, have been thoroughly enjoying

teledyldonix, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 22:00 (twelve years ago) link

i can't stop playing the closing track

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 29 February 2012 00:30 (twelve years ago) link

J0rdan if you haven't already you should definitely listen to the Blondes album.

Tim F, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 00:35 (twelve years ago) link

You crack me up ILM, you'll rep for dergy retro indie tech house like John and the Blondes then get all upity about anything that isn't poppy UK funky :')

I guess we're dealing with a forum still in the shadow of DFA, hey...

jimitheexploder, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 00:38 (twelve years ago) link

yeah i have been, it doesn't play to my sensibilities as much as this does but i'm trying to find an in there cuz so many ppl like it

xp

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 29 February 2012 00:39 (twelve years ago) link

John and the Blondes is a much better name than the Blondes imo

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 29 February 2012 00:39 (twelve years ago) link

no 'the'

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Wednesday, 29 February 2012 00:40 (twelve years ago) link

or just Blondes

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 29 February 2012 00:41 (twelve years ago) link

i have trouble a lot of the times really getting moved by dance music that doesn't overtly try and MOVE you (via a big beat drop, or some big build up or w/e) but one of the great things about this album is that very small changes in the beat feel very big and powerful

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 29 February 2012 00:45 (twelve years ago) link

You crack me up ILM, you'll rep for dergy retro indie tech house like John and the Blondes then get all upity about anything that isn't poppy UK funky :')

Jimi I am not "ILM".

Tim F, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 00:46 (twelve years ago) link

very small changes in the beat feel very big and powerful

this is basically how i got into dance music via minimal and electro house ca. 2006

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Wednesday, 29 February 2012 00:49 (twelve years ago) link

i didn't know j0rdan had favourote dance albums in general!

i got into dance music entirely through going out clubbing, not sure i would have if i hadn't

lex pretend, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 01:02 (twelve years ago) link

i mean like ~proper~ dance music not just the big boshing chart hits of the 90s

lex pretend, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 01:02 (twelve years ago) link

i didn't know j0rdan had favourote dance albums in general!

ha, from time to time

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 29 February 2012 01:05 (twelve years ago) link

"favourote"? fuck typos so much

i can't really think of a dance album from the past deacde or so you'll like more than ellen allien & apparat's orchestra of bubbles

lex pretend, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 01:11 (twelve years ago) link

Ay up Tim I know you aint ILM, you're Tim. I just see a lot of cross over from this thread and the Blondes.

John and the Blondes

And it makes my head scratch. Don't see where its coming from at all and I'm a sucka for old DFA, shity tech house and a bit of indie in my time way back a sa teen...

Its just loopy slightly heavier The Field innit?

jimitheexploder, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 01:31 (twelve years ago) link

I meant your idea that there are posters who like the Blondes and Talabot and poppy UK funky and not other stuff you like seems like a strawman of me that couldn't possibly apply to any other ILM poster.

Tim F, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 01:36 (twelve years ago) link

I was just trying to draw a reaction, to see what the deal was with John and the Blondes. Since you funky goons are pretty much the only goons on ILM worth taking a poll of. Maybe I'm missing somingthing with John and the Blondes? Just playin' about. Wouldn't tease if I thought you lot where shit or anything.

jimitheexploder, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 01:42 (twelve years ago) link

Liking Blondes and Talabot has very little to do with liking DFA, and a lot to do with liking tech-house IMO, and in particular I suspect liking the golden age of electro-house into big room minimal circa 2004-2006.

I don't think there's anything particularly indie sounding about either album, except for hipster house associations with Blondes that have no real bearing on the sound of the music, and the Delorean guy's vocals on the on the one Talabot tune.

Tim F, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 02:40 (twelve years ago) link

Off two exposures this is really nicely put together, smooth, head-nodding, but it's lacking a little something... alien, or unique, or really idiosyncratic. It just seems "really good" rather than "special", which is fine and dandy, and will probably turn out to be more than enough after continued exposure, but I've not gone "wow" at it. Yet.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 07:56 (twelve years ago) link

blondes and talabot aren't very similar at all

lex pretend, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 08:04 (twelve years ago) link

the best bits of the talabot album feel like coming up, that's what's special about it

lex pretend, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 08:04 (twelve years ago) link

I wouldn't know what that feels like...

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 08:53 (twelve years ago) link

i wouldn't use the words 'dirgy', 'retro', 'indie' or 'tech house' to describe either of the records under question, nor would i lump them together at all. and yea calling blondes 'indie' is hella frustrating after all the circuitous discussions in the h****** house thred

psychgawsple, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 09:36 (twelve years ago) link

well i guess 'retro' might be applicable. but no more so than with any other house record in 2012

psychgawsple, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 09:38 (twelve years ago) link

very small changes in the beat feel very big and powerful

This is how I approach most dance music, I've realised. Like, a little 'tish' noise coming in at the right time or a melodic loop that changes the whole complexion of the sound does so much more for me than a massive drop or whatever.

Blondes and Talabot are pretty similar in their approach and sound palette I think. Blondes are a bit hazier, druggier, later in the party maybe.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 09:39 (twelve years ago) link

^^^

Entire post.

Tim F, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 09:41 (twelve years ago) link

idk the blondes record feels more like a grouping of refined jam sessions, more fluid and less deliberate in approach imo. which is not to say that they don't know what they're doing, i mean this in a respective sense

psychgawsple, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 09:55 (twelve years ago) link

blondes appeal to me more because of sound design and mood, talabot because of melody and structure (build-and-release etc)

lex pretend, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 11:04 (twelve years ago) link


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