well, i haven't. explain!
― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Friday, 3 February 2012 19:46 (twelve years ago) link
xp al, the point is that expectations get raised and that necessarily effects impressions. Eating a great hamburger from a place that you've never heard of makes it taste better than if you're going to a hot new restaurant. It's not about benefit of the doubt, it's about tampering with the jury
i don't think ANYONE here is faking like or dislike of anything! I fucking hope they aren't; that would be ridiculous.
― Wie wol ich bin der vogel has noch den erfret mich das (forksclovetofu), Friday, 3 February 2012 19:48 (twelve years ago) link
❀ the cult of: ➥motivational speakers ➥life coaches ➥personal growth gurus ➥new-age charlatans ➥AWESOMENESS FEST xp
― #YOLO #NAMASTE (D-40), Friday, 3 February 2012 19:49 (twelve years ago) link
xp even if what you're saying is true, crying "backlash" when ppl express dislike over something popular is not exactly a fair assessment either
― surm, Friday, 3 February 2012 19:50 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i feel like at this point bad faith is pretty much implied by that phrase
― pfunkbo bryson (some dude), Friday, 3 February 2012 19:55 (twelve years ago) link
why are we talking about hamburgers and liturgy
― I GUESS THAT CINNABON GETTIN EATEN (Edward III), Friday, 3 February 2012 19:56 (twelve years ago) link
in the azealia banks thread
i pray that whopper gettin eaten
― Wie wol ich bin der vogel has noch den erfret mich das (forksclovetofu), Friday, 3 February 2012 20:02 (twelve years ago) link
i think in most situations "backlash" could be more accurately described as: record stirs up buzz among the kind of listeners most inclined to enjoying it, then conversation around it gets loud enough that people less predisposed to loving it hear it and weigh in and the appearance of consensus dissipates
― pfunkbo bryson (some dude), Friday, 3 February 2012 20:08 (twelve years ago) link
don't have a catchy two-syllable version of that, though, unfortunately
― pfunkbo bryson (some dude), Friday, 3 February 2012 20:09 (twelve years ago) link
Every instance of "backlash" I can think of involves a fanbase turning on their object of affection (see: Britney Spears' "Gimme More" VMA performance; Janet Jackson's wardrobe malfunction; Lindsey Lohan; Charlie Sheen's meltdown; Miley Cyrus's stonerdom; no one who bought "Club Can't Handle Me" buying Flo Rida's subsequent album)
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Friday, 3 February 2012 20:14 (twelve years ago) link
why?
i kind of feel that whereas a lot of the other hyped acts of last year got a lot of writing devoted to both attacking and defending them, the banks detractors have barely elucidated their position at all. like i'm all for a good disagreement but all they're coming with is "she sucks" and "lol".
― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Friday, February 3, 2012 11:39 AM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
writer spends a long time pointing out that 212 makes good use of internal rhymes/assonance and is effectively built around an "ew" sound. and that "you can rap about the dumbest, most useless shit ever as long as you sound hot on the track." which is all well and good, so long as you keep it simple and avoid instructive recourse to shakespeare...
― adolf jingle balls (contenderizer), Friday, 3 February 2012 20:15 (twelve years ago) link
A "backlash" is a popular negative reaction to something which has gained popularity, prominence, or influence. Although it can sometimes represent a categorical rejection of the idea, aesthetic, product, or fad in question, it is usually a reflection of a collective resentment of that thing's ubiquity in culture and media, rather than a denial of its existence. The term is commonly applied to gender and racial discrimination and religious discrimination against minority groups, as well, such as in response to certain events or circumstances (e.g. the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001).
― I GUESS THAT CINNABON GETTIN EATEN (Edward III), Friday, 3 February 2012 20:16 (twelve years ago) link
i meant 'in most situations like this involving a hot new artist that get described as backlash' but yeah i didn't really state that explicitly sorry
― pfunkbo bryson (some dude), Friday, 3 February 2012 20:17 (twelve years ago) link
like Britney, Janet, etc., that's definitely classic backlash archetype material, which is exactly why i bristle at it being used to describe the first 6 months of a YouTube meme's career
― pfunkbo bryson (some dude), Friday, 3 February 2012 20:18 (twelve years ago) link
i think both some dude and DJP are right about backlash. two different tendencies can figure in: the spite of non-fans who become incensed by what they see as undeserved hype, and the spite of fans disappointed by changes in an artist's material or public persona.
― adolf jingle balls (contenderizer), Friday, 3 February 2012 20:19 (twelve years ago) link
I dunno, britney and janet situations seem like intentionally generated controversies, can you create your own backlash?
― I GUESS THAT CINNABON GETTIN EATEN (Edward III), Friday, 3 February 2012 20:24 (twelve years ago) link
cuz in that case about 80% of madonna's career is backlash
― I GUESS THAT CINNABON GETTIN EATEN (Edward III), Friday, 3 February 2012 20:26 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i guess the britney/janet things are a little too complex to be archetypal -- but those were big beloved artists who experienced a genuine wave of disinterest or distaste toward their new material, even beyond the media circus aspects of what happened
― pfunkbo bryson (some dude), Friday, 3 February 2012 20:32 (twelve years ago) link
wow you guys really CAN argue about anything
― Wie wol ich bin der vogel has noch den erfret mich das (forksclovetofu), Friday, 3 February 2012 21:04 (twelve years ago) link
Pile on cause there's lotsa room on the backlash train wooowoooo
― Wie wol ich bin der vogel has noch den erfret mich das (forksclovetofu), Friday, February 3, 2012 2:07 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
maybe if you don't want to see an argument don't say shit like this, DJ Non-Drama
― pfunkbo bryson (some dude), Friday, 3 February 2012 21:06 (twelve years ago) link
ha, it's not like i came here gunzablazing! that was in response to like five comments in a row about how not hot the artist in question was!
― Wie wol ich bin der vogel has noch den erfret mich das (forksclovetofu), Friday, 3 February 2012 21:08 (twelve years ago) link
should've posted a gif of a choo choo train to keep the tone light
― pfunkbo bryson (some dude), Friday, 3 February 2012 21:09 (twelve years ago) link
or at least a picture of Quad City DJs
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Friday, 3 February 2012 21:09 (twelve years ago) link
http://static.tvfanatic.com/images/gallery/i-choo-choo-choose-you.jpg
― Wie wol ich bin der vogel has noch den erfret mich das (forksclovetofu), Friday, 3 February 2012 21:10 (twelve years ago) link
tracklash
― surm, Friday, 3 February 2012 21:10 (twelve years ago) link
― Wie wol ich bin der vogel has noch den erfret mich das (forksclovetofu), Friday, February 3, 2012 4:04 PM
wrong
― I GUESS THAT CINNABON GETTIN EATEN (Edward III), Friday, 3 February 2012 21:31 (twelve years ago) link
i stand corrected
― Wie wol ich bin der vogel has noch den erfret mich das (forksclovetofu), Friday, 3 February 2012 21:33 (twelve years ago) link
no you don't
― I GUESS THAT CINNABON GETTIN EATEN (Edward III), Friday, 3 February 2012 21:34 (twelve years ago) link
*sobs*
― Wie wol ich bin der vogel has noch den erfret mich das (forksclovetofu), Friday, 3 February 2012 21:35 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.factmag.com/2012/03/26/diplo-in-the-dock-did-he-steal-that-azealia-banks-beat/
^ naughty diplo!
― Valéry Giscard d'Staind (NickB), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:19 (twelve years ago) link
shocked, simply SHOCKED that diplo might've lifted a beat
― Lil T the Bowed Jet (forksclovetofu), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:38 (twelve years ago) link
It's drumline. It all sounds vaguely the same.
― hot and brothered (Eric H.), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:47 (twelve years ago) link
nah
― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:59 (twelve years ago) link
oh come on, AB's entire steez is to rap over other people's music
― THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 17:02 (twelve years ago) link
(that was to Eric)
can't believe diplo's in the dock
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Monday, 26 March 2012 17:06 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, but "stealing" drum cadences? Is this high school state competition?
― hot and brothered (Eric H.), Monday, 26 March 2012 17:16 (twelve years ago) link
(Was in HS drumline, tho, so I'm sort of predisposed toward liking anything with that as a backing track.)
― hot and brothered (Eric H.), Monday, 26 March 2012 17:17 (twelve years ago) link
liking/disliking has nothing to do with whether one is a direct lift of the other!
― THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 17:18 (twelve years ago) link
Don't I know it.
― hot and brothered (Eric H.), Monday, 26 March 2012 17:19 (twelve years ago) link
seven years after "bucky done gun" people are surprised by diplo jacking a beat?
― lex pretend, Monday, 26 March 2012 17:19 (twelve years ago) link
it's not about copying a rhythm, he pretty clearly jacked someone else's whole recording (which probably used drum sounds from a sample pack, but still) and barely even changed it.
― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Monday, 26 March 2012 17:20 (twelve years ago) link
Vanilla Ice's "Ice Ice Baby" defense just leaped to mind
"the Queen song goes 'dun-dun-dun-dududun-dun/dun-dun-dun-dududun-dun', but MY song goes 'dun-dun-dun-dududun-dun/DUN-dun-dun-dun-dududun-dun', it's completely different"
― THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 17:23 (twelve years ago) link
*consults the movie Drumline*
― JIM THOMETHEUS (zachlyon), Monday, 26 March 2012 17:38 (twelve years ago) link
conclusion: Nick Cannon
― JIM THOMETHEUS (zachlyon), Monday, 26 March 2012 17:40 (twelve years ago) link
otm
― lag∞n, Monday, 26 March 2012 17:41 (twelve years ago) link
its a nearly exact copy while at the same time being incredibly generic, in conclusion the guy prob deserved it
― lag∞n, Monday, 26 March 2012 17:42 (twelve years ago) link
yo can't copyright no beats man
― internet somebody (some dude), Monday, 26 March 2012 17:42 (twelve years ago) link
but im giving it a new name --diplo
― lag∞n, Monday, 26 March 2012 17:45 (twelve years ago) link