i personally felt it was a weak year for rap full lengths and sort of an awkward transitional year for rap music in general. while 2010 saw a lot of big debuts & breakouts (waka, lil b, odd fut), most of 2011 felt like a slog as those artists released a high rate of output with little or none of it at the level of quality of their breakout material. tragically, my favourite new rap artist of 2010 (nht boyz) barely released anything all year. many new artists within the more traditional goon aesthetic were met with a mixed reaction (trouble/alley boy, brick squad monopoly, future), while the most unifying new artists (kendrick lamar and schoolboy q) are coming from the opposite aesthetic
― flopson, Thursday, 2 February 2012 02:59 (fourteen years ago)
You R&B and Hip Hop "heads" should check out that album by "The Weekend", which takes both genres to dazzling new heights!
http://www.flashcreed.com/catalog/view/theme/flashcreed/image_flashcreed/stars/stars_4.png
― omar little, Thursday, 2 February 2012 03:03 (fourteen years ago)
next time i have to defend not giving a shit about kendrick lamar i will just cite flopson's "opposite of goon aesthetic" description
― lana del rey: everythang's workin' (some dude), Thursday, 2 February 2012 03:05 (fourteen years ago)
some goon purist
― flopson, Thursday, 2 February 2012 03:06 (fourteen years ago)
studyin at the gooniversity
― the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Thursday, 2 February 2012 03:06 (fourteen years ago)
forgot to rope riff-raff & tko capone into my goon narrative
― flopson, Thursday, 2 February 2012 03:10 (fourteen years ago)
▲TKÕ C∆PΘÑΣ▲✈
― the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Thursday, 2 February 2012 03:12 (fourteen years ago)
I have little hope for anything else I voted for, including Uncle Acid, but here's to me being wrong!!
― La Lechera, Thursday, 2 February 2012 03:17 (fourteen years ago)
Uncle Acid & The Deadbeats - a really impressive rock album released in mysterious circumstances, has garnered a pretty big following in a fairly short amount of time.
― Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Wednesday, February 1, 2012 5:07 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
still hoping this will show. did my part. but nah, long shot at best.
― his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 February 2012 03:24 (fourteen years ago)
i agree that 2011 was largely a rebuilding year for solid goon raps. i found plenty of great full-lengths but found the overall narrative lacking,
with the exception of maybach music, which converted me by bringing back that 'actual rap' to the rap charts again
― #YOLO #NAMASTE (D-40), Thursday, 2 February 2012 03:25 (fourteen years ago)
am i crazy to still be holding out hope for covert coup? love the shit out of that shit.
― his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 February 2012 03:25 (fourteen years ago)
rich forever is already better than any of the maybach 2011 output tho xp
― flopson, Thursday, 2 February 2012 03:26 (fourteen years ago)
i agree that covert coup was a very good record considering curren$y's slide into same-iness it still stood apart xp
― #YOLO #NAMASTE (D-40), Thursday, 2 February 2012 03:26 (fourteen years ago)
― flopson, Wednesday, February 1, 2012 9:26 PM (36 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
agreed but have any singles from that charted yet? I meant more in terms of loving 'tupacs back' 'ima boss' 'aston martin music' (carryover from the prev year but nonetheless) 'that way' & other big singles
except for lotus flower bomb. that sucked
― #YOLO #NAMASTE (D-40), Thursday, 2 February 2012 03:27 (fourteen years ago)
I will be v surprised a & disappointed if Uncle Acid doesn't show; I remember predicting to Kerr that it would make top 10 but I'm scaling that back. I'm not ready to call it a day yet though, esp since so many voters have represented...
― Drugs A. Money, Thursday, 2 February 2012 03:42 (fourteen years ago)
also: I totally need to check out that Schoolboy Q album. any relevant discussion on ILM?
― Drugs A. Money, Thursday, 2 February 2012 03:46 (fourteen years ago)
Both the Schoolboy Q albums are v. good.
― Tim F, Thursday, 2 February 2012 04:00 (fourteen years ago)
my top 20 predictions:
2562 - fever and spear adele - 21beastie boys - hot sauce committee part 2 blut aus nord - 777: Pun(s)bon iver - s/t don trip & carlito - stepbros.driphouse - s/t fleet foxes - hometown bluesgang gang dance - dont know what this is called innergaze - shadow disco lou reed & metallica - hulumichael pisaro - poison, shadow and farewell moritz von oswald trio - horizontal structures SBTRKT - add it up skrillex - collected ambient works something from the bathetic records catalogsomething on planet muterius nash - 1997 xander harris - memories of youth, dreams of old age yuck - how it feels to be something on
― the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Thursday, 2 February 2012 04:03 (fourteen years ago)
"1997" was the exact point where i went from a chuckle to a lol
― lana del rey: everythang's workin' (some dude), Thursday, 2 February 2012 04:04 (fourteen years ago)
lol michael pisarofor real though his asleep, street, pipes, tones was my favorite record of 2011!
― Dan S, Thursday, 2 February 2012 04:07 (fourteen years ago)
yeah, the stuff he put out on gravity wave this year is uniformly great
― original bgm, Thursday, 2 February 2012 04:16 (fourteen years ago)
pulling for ulcerate, destroyers of all. don't let me down ilm
― original bgm, Thursday, 2 February 2012 04:19 (fourteen years ago)
stoked that sbtrkt has zero ilx stans apparently
― ⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 2 February 2012 04:52 (fourteen years ago)
so i have a pattern going, i went 0/17 first day, 2/20 second day and 4/20 third day. so i should still have eight more that show up
― Bee OK, Thursday, 2 February 2012 05:08 (fourteen years ago)
i'm moving over the next few days so i probably won't know the Top 20 until sometime next week
:-(
― Bee OK, Thursday, 2 February 2012 05:09 (fourteen years ago)
i think you mean 6
― the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Thursday, 2 February 2012 05:09 (fourteen years ago)
If Tropical 2 cracks top 20 I will be ridiculously pleased and smug.
I've got your back on this one. I'm sure this is going to make it.
― Willie Rosario Dawson (_Rudipherous_), Thursday, 2 February 2012 05:13 (fourteen years ago)
Was hoping that Future Islands would feature somewhere as it was my #2, but no way will it make top 20.
― fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Thursday, 2 February 2012 08:35 (fourteen years ago)
i voted future islands
― ⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 2 February 2012 08:42 (fourteen years ago)
woohoogreat to see araabmuzik and britney place, two excellent records
― nathey, Thursday, 2 February 2012 09:45 (fourteen years ago)
i can't believe 'dreamchasers' hasn't placed. :'(
― the emancipation of me-me (tpp), Thursday, 2 February 2012 09:53 (fourteen years ago)
Just chiming in on Colin Stetson. I never enjoy music if it's simply presented to me like a sport, i.e. technical skill over music and feel. But this is some evocative stuff and fairly accessible. I even like the spoken word stuff.
― Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Thursday, 2 February 2012 10:55 (fourteen years ago)
I'd have liked to have seen Bangs & Works 2 place, but it won't happen.
― Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Thursday, 2 February 2012 10:55 (52 minutes ago)
Yeah, I'm regretful about not including it. The Soul Jazz 'Invasion Of The Mysteron Killer Sounds' comps were pretty good too.
― Yeah Yeah Bohney (Craigo Boingo), Thursday, 2 February 2012 11:53 (fourteen years ago)
those (?? were there more than just one) were spectacular - set a sort of precedent for my listening throughout the year.
― Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Thursday, 2 February 2012 11:56 (fourteen years ago)
Two on vinyl. Totally caned 'Streetsweeper' (Steely & Clevie) and 'Yoga Riddim' (Team Shadetek) through the summer.
http://www.discogs.com/Various-Invasion-Of-The-Mysteron-Killer-Sounds-Vol1/release/2971428
― Cragenham Craig (Craigo Boingo), Thursday, 2 February 2012 12:01 (fourteen years ago)
Shamefully I am only just now hearing the Nguzunguzu. It is incredible! So happy right now.
Oh and I suppose I should 'fess up that I was the voter who had Frank Ocean as their #1. What can I say? It was the album I listened to most last year and it's high points ('songs for women', 'novacane', 'swim good') were among my favourite tracks of 2011. I also voted for the Girls record so I guess I don't like either 'real' indie OR 'real rnb' ;)
Don't you got some Jodeci?
― pandemic, Thursday, 2 February 2012 12:08 (fourteen years ago)
They're highly unlikely to place now but I'm a little surprised and disappointed that Elzhi, Meek Mill, Young Bleed, and Los Campesinos! have all been shut out of the Top 77. On the other hand at least 20 records I've never heard of have made the list which gives me lots to listen to! :)
― pandemic, Thursday, 2 February 2012 12:11 (fourteen years ago)
lol all these "rnb for people who dont like real rnb" and "indie for those who dont like real indie" arguments on this thread are exactly like dog latins "black metal for those who dont like tr00 black metal" posts upthread. Which is sadly like most metal boards on the internet. I totally expect it from indie fans, its always existed in rock music, but rnb too????
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 12:12 (fourteen years ago)
I do like how Girls are too corny even for indie fuxx though.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 2 February 2012 12:33 (fourteen years ago)
where's the real messageboard?
― nathey, Thursday, 2 February 2012 12:39 (fourteen years ago)
yeah but are they too corny for corny indie fuxx?xp
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 12:44 (fourteen years ago)
lol all these "rnb for people who dont like real rnb" and "indie for those who dont like real indie" arguments on this thread are exactly like dog latins "black metal for those who dont like tr00 black metal" posts upthread. Which is sadly like most metal boards on the internet. I totally expect it from indie fans, its always existed in rock music, but rnb too????― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 12:12 (40 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 12:12 (40 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i think my posts on this subject started getting lost in translation. There's nothing I hate more than the sort of snobbery and pedantry that Tr00 metal types bandy around ad nauseam. It was more an observation that because of the influence of Pitchfork (who are grounded in US-centric indie rock but go to some lengths to be perceived as eclectic), there's now a big central market territory for music that will make that crossover. So with Frank Ocean you have this guy who calls himself a singer-songwriter (not r'n'b, oh no no), who sings over Coldplay and Eagles songs and is associated with a controversial undie-rap crew: These are all points of reference which Pitchforky audiences can easily identify, regardless of whether his album is much better or worse than any other r'n'b artist. The problem here is that R'n'B fans are most likely sick of hearing "Oh I like R'n'B too - do you know Frank Ocean?" because it displays a limited palette and only a meek step outside the listener's initial comfort zone. So what's wrong with that? What's wrong with dipping one's toe in the water to see if you like it? Well nothing really, but it's also a bit of a cop-out. If you're going to check out a new style of music it could be argued that you have to accept the style warts'n'all. I think what initially attracted me to a lot of music I like is the sheer shock-of-the-new, the uncertainty, the mental acrobatics I had to perform to fit this new aesthetic into my worldview. Like, I didn't really enjoy Pantera or Metallica's Black album when I was played those as a teenager, but when I first heard, I dunno, Bal Sagoth it was like "This is hilarious and crazy and weird, and WTF???!".
― Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Thursday, 2 February 2012 13:31 (fourteen years ago)
Did anyone else dig the Kuedo record? I haven't seen much talk of it, but I thought it was beautiful--still lisetning to it a lot, actually.
― Clarke B., Thursday, 2 February 2012 15:12 (fourteen years ago)
It was okay, but it didn't excite me as much as the hype made out I would.
― Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Thursday, 2 February 2012 15:15 (fourteen years ago)
It seems like the middle stretch of this poll has gotten a bit samey. Too many hipster fetishist bands trying to recreate the same early-'80s post-punk-meets-disco moment. However, one nice thing is that my two best discoveries were both free downloads: Ngunguzungu and Death Grips.
― o. nate, Thursday, 2 February 2012 15:42 (fourteen years ago)
undie-rap
Ha.
― skip, Thursday, 2 February 2012 15:47 (fourteen years ago)
attn site mods: my flag post for dog latin was entirely in earnest please dont delete it
― the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Thursday, 2 February 2012 15:49 (fourteen years ago)
"Too many hipster fetishist bands trying to recreate the same early-'80s post-punk-meets-disco moment."
which ones are these?
― Crackle Box, Thursday, 2 February 2012 15:59 (fourteen years ago)
passive-aggressive much, Lamp?
― Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:07 (fourteen years ago)