just looking for a great-grandparent to love him
cool story tho goole i'm the same way, pretty sure my greats died well before i was born
― tebow gotti (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:19 (twelve years ago) link
anyone who never got the deluxe CD, now's the time... shit is brand new $3.00 and change on Amazon
http://www.amazon.com/Last-Train-Paris-Deluxe-Edition/dp/B003MX5OZS/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1333856779&sr=8-4
― ilxor, Sunday, 8 April 2012 03:48 (twelve years ago) link
apparently the internet has no DDM tshirts to offer me, this is nuts.
however searching amazon > apparel for "diddy" does return this:
http://www.amazon.com/Paper-Magic-Group-Rapper-Costume/dp/B003ZU5Y30/ref=sr_1_11?s=apparel&ie=UTF8&qid=1335204196&sr=1-11
fuck that.
― goole, Monday, 23 April 2012 18:06 (twelve years ago) link
:/
― dharunravir (k3vin k.), Monday, 23 April 2012 18:41 (twelve years ago) link
Size: One Size Fits Most
― I need new, hip khakis (DJP), Monday, 23 April 2012 18:41 (twelve years ago) link
we def need a repoll, like an annual one
― dayo, Wednesday, February 1, 2012 6:50 AM (2 months ago) Bookmark
i was thinking of doing a 'best guest appearance on LTTP' poll but not sure if i want to rush into that level of overkill
― Poor Turrican (some dude), Monday, 23 April 2012 18:46 (twelve years ago) link
there are surprisingly few standouts to choose from!
― liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Monday, 23 April 2012 18:53 (twelve years ago) link
yeah that was why i thought it'd be interesting
― Poor Turrican (some dude), Monday, 23 April 2012 18:54 (twelve years ago) link
lord, it'd actually be timberlake or grey for me (tip in third place)
everyone else is either barely noticeable (grace jones, bilal/fauntleroy backing vox) or crucial-but-not-notable (swizz beatz) or the worst thing about the song (drake, breezy, rawse) or dead (biggie)
usher and wayne acquit themselves well but i don't feel they bring the EXACT singular vibe that's perfect for both the song and the context within the album that timberlake and grey too.
if there was somehow a version of "hello good morning" with both tip and nicki minaj on it, and it was on the album, nicki would walk it. YOUNG MONEY I DO IT FOR THE YOUT DEM
― liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Monday, 23 April 2012 19:03 (twelve years ago) link
"Your Love" is one of the best things Trey Songz has ever done, he probably would get my vote
― Poor Turrican (some dude), Monday, 23 April 2012 19:04 (twelve years ago) link
^some dude otm
― johnny crunch, Monday, 23 April 2012 19:05 (twelve years ago) link
oh actually yeah i agree! i forgot because i was looking at the choices in this poll and poor trey's credit got missed off
(but i think i'd still choose timberlake or grey)
― liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Monday, 23 April 2012 19:11 (twelve years ago) link
trey may well have the best individual performance but i think looking at it in terms of whose absence from the album would be most felt it's weezy imo
― r|t|c, Monday, 23 April 2012 19:19 (twelve years ago) link
oh i'd love weezyless edits of both his songs
― Poor Turrican (some dude), Monday, 23 April 2012 19:20 (twelve years ago) link
can we do a kickstarter to buy goole that costume and then require him to wear it once a week
― Badu and a sax run hand-in-hand (jjjusten), Monday, 23 April 2012 19:28 (twelve years ago) link
just another mise en scene trampled under ships' absolutist hooves xp
― r|t|c, Monday, 23 April 2012 19:30 (twelve years ago) link
haha
i mean i totally subscribe to the theory that every element of the album contributes to the whole and wouldn't want to change a thing -- BUT if i was going to delete anyone from the record it'd totally be Wayne
― Poor Turrican (some dude), Monday, 23 April 2012 19:31 (twelve years ago) link
― Poor Turrican (some dude), Monday, April 23, 2012 3:20 PM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
^^
i'd totally vote chris brown tbh - i've loved plenty of his songs before and after LTTP but i think his performers here are among the very few that hint at any actual humanity
― dharunravir (k3vin k.), Monday, 23 April 2012 19:46 (twelve years ago) link
well at least the better of the two CB songs appears without him (and perhaps more crucially, without Wiz Khalifa) on the Dawn mixtape
― Poor Turrican (some dude), Monday, 23 April 2012 19:47 (twelve years ago) link
i might feel compelled to vote for CB in this hypothetical poll so please don't
― goole, Monday, 23 April 2012 20:00 (twelve years ago) link
also my hourly rate for humiliation is pretty high but i'm not saying no at this point in time
― goole, Monday, 23 April 2012 20:02 (twelve years ago) link
gotcher back, dude brought it on this album imo. i know tim agrees too
― dharunravir (k3vin k.), Monday, 23 April 2012 20:38 (twelve years ago) link
pretty happy that I had cause to order stuff from amazon and got a $3 physical versh
― dayo, Monday, 23 April 2012 20:40 (twelve years ago) link
y'all are underrating weezy on "strobe lights", that might get my vote
― J0rdan S., Monday, 23 April 2012 21:45 (twelve years ago) link
i told her i would love herlove her as foreverforever's just a wordi put words together
― J0rdan S., Monday, 23 April 2012 21:46 (twelve years ago) link
I have never underrated weezy on strobe lights
― dayo, Monday, 23 April 2012 21:46 (twelve years ago) link
the strobe lights are dancingwe've taken all the chancesshe question what we areand i'll drink to the answer
― J0rdan S., Monday, 23 April 2012 21:47 (twelve years ago) link
yeah dayo you're the only one
― Poor Turrican (some dude), Monday, 23 April 2012 20:31 (1 hour ago) Bookmark
yeah no i do think we're p much on the same page here generally but just for me weezy's presence on the album was vital in kinda idk, emulsifying the cocky/dreamy "hate you but i love you but i hate you" motherfuckers that's stoned patient aspect that i think would otherwise have got a little lost just with diddy carrying it. obviously subsequent releases in the ddm canon have further gone some ways towards internalizing the whole aesthetic so that perhaps now weezy doesnt quite seem as necessary, but at the time (and still in terms of lltp as a standalone piece) he was pertinent
also i say weezy's 'presence' rather than contribution specifically - i would suggest it's important to note all guests on the album have their characters sublimated into the lttp vibe, almost like they're mutliplicites of a single conflicted self rather than discrete entities cosigning the main body. like i might have first said ross was eminently the least essential person on this but even he works as a sort of texture of in-the-here-and-now brash celebrity unaware of the diddy/biggie melancholies to come
― r|t|c, Monday, 23 April 2012 21:53 (twelve years ago) link
these are not the lines i would choose to type out to sell wayne on "strobe lights" to sceptics (though i do like his turn on it)
― liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Monday, 23 April 2012 21:53 (twelve years ago) link
lil wayne's attitude on 'strobe lights' is like someone pulling the wings off of a fly
― dayo, Monday, 23 April 2012 21:54 (twelve years ago) link
forever's just a wordi put words together
pretty devastating imo
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 April 2012 21:54 (twelve years ago) link
really fits into the dark, doubtful middle third of the album
― dayo, Monday, 23 April 2012 21:55 (twelve years ago) link
love hypothetical polls btw, dudes should fail to realise them more often
― r|t|c, Monday, 23 April 2012 21:56 (twelve years ago) link
i would suggest it's important to note all guests on the album have their characters sublimated into the lttp vibe, almost like they're mutliplicites of a single conflicted self rather than discrete entities cosigning the main body
this is so crucial yeah! but the best ones are also entirely recognisable as themselves, or at least they're basically still doing what they normally do, so it's not just straightforward self-anonymising in service of diddy, it's kind of...almost like the other way round, an extension of the sade love (and how diddy quotes those songs diddy on "coming home"). it's him identifying with what wayne, justin etc do and using them as mouthpieces.
― liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Monday, 23 April 2012 22:30 (twelve years ago) link
We should also have a "best guest appearance on a version of a LTTP song that didn't make the album" failed poll.
e.g. Nicki vs Cassie vs Serani vs ??
― Tim F, Monday, 23 April 2012 22:48 (twelve years ago) link
basia
― r|t|c, Monday, 23 April 2012 22:52 (twelve years ago) link
for me it would be between jt on "shades" and wfb on "strobe lights"
good post, rtc
― hologram ned raggett (The Reverend), Monday, 23 April 2012 22:56 (twelve years ago) link
Cathy Dennis
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 April 2012 22:56 (twelve years ago) link
― Tim F, Monday, April 23, 2012 6:48 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark
which song had serani on it???
― J0rdan S., Monday, 23 April 2012 23:01 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elCCheTdOpA
― r|t|c, Monday, 23 April 2012 23:03 (twelve years ago) link
oh that's a tease
― J0rdan S., Monday, 23 April 2012 23:09 (twelve years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Monday, April 23, 2012 5:46 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
.......
― dharunravir (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 00:10 (twelve years ago) link
― r|t|c, Monday, April 23, 2012 5:56 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark
yeah i got to have the convo i wanted w/o the embarrassment of starting yet another thread about this album
― Poor Turrican (some dude), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 00:46 (twelve years ago) link
haha it's ok i've done the same thing several times with terius, then ilxor polled it for me later anyway. win-win!
― dharunravir (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 01:00 (twelve years ago) link
Which had Cassie on it?
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:02 (twelve years ago) link
it was one of the ones off the prologue mixtape, she wasn't particularly noticeable iirc
― liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:05 (twelve years ago) link
There was a PROLOGUE mixtape?!
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:12 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, it was released on the vogue website w/ a little piece by andre leon talley
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:13 (twelve years ago) link
it was like 4 actual songs and then a bunch of interludes of famous fashion people speaking iirc