Mariah Carey - That Chick [New Album .. April]

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In fact I would go so far to say that I would have liked Geir to produce the new Mariah Carey album.

Dingbod Kesterson, Friday, 18 January 2008 09:43 (eighteen years ago)

I'd dig on some Hongroe-produced Mariah.

The Reverend, Friday, 18 January 2008 10:10 (eighteen years ago)

I feel as though some people are not taking this subject as seriously as they could.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 18 January 2008 12:10 (eighteen years ago)

I feel as though we are taking this subject as seriously as it deserves.

Dingbod Kesterson, Friday, 18 January 2008 12:11 (eighteen years ago)

Indeed.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 18 January 2008 12:12 (eighteen years ago)

"Bye Bye" (an ode to people who have passed away)

roffle

r|t|c, Friday, 18 January 2008 14:18 (eighteen years ago)

mariah / marley will be a classic, i can feel it

r|t|c, Friday, 18 January 2008 14:21 (eighteen years ago)

The "Bye Bye" ode to people passed away cannot hope to surpass the majesty of "Rock 'N' Roll Heaven" by the Righteous Brothers.

Dingbod Kesterson, Friday, 18 January 2008 14:22 (eighteen years ago)

though I'd quite like to hear her cover "People Who Died" by Jim Carroll.

Dingbod Kesterson, Friday, 18 January 2008 14:22 (eighteen years ago)

in case anyone missed it, here's that real nice emancipation outtake j-shep went and put at the top of her critlist

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4GrbF5a-e8

r|t|c, Friday, 18 January 2008 14:30 (eighteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

the first single has been changed to "touch my body" and is gonna leak like any day now

The Brainwasher, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:01 (eighteen years ago)

written by The-Dream

The Brainwasher, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:03 (eighteen years ago)

dawgs I can hardly wait for this sheet yeah!

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 7 February 2008 21:06 (eighteen years ago)

Okay she's changed the album title to E=MC², first single is gonna leak today or tomorrow.

The Brainwasher, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 16:16 (eighteen years ago)

jesus what a nutty broad

Alex in Baltimore, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 16:20 (eighteen years ago)

Haha, that's a much better title. Glad to hear she's working with The-Dream.

lou, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 16:21 (eighteen years ago)

let's guess what the e stands for

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 12 February 2008 16:22 (eighteen years ago)

Empanada=Mariah Carey²

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 12 February 2008 16:23 (eighteen years ago)

Enema = Mariah Carey²

The Brainwasher, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 16:33 (eighteen years ago)

http://i30.tinypic.com/34ozms4.jpg

jhøshea, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 16:34 (eighteen years ago)

Emancipation=Mariah Carey²

baaderonixx, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 16:56 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.amphetaminereptile.com/LPs/bosshog-coldhands-p.gif

Cristina's still hotter.

Alex in NYC, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 17:04 (eighteen years ago)

i wish i just had no idea what you were talking abt

jhøshea, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 17:08 (eighteen years ago)

i

am

down.

Surmounter, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 22:41 (eighteen years ago)

i mean

it's like, exACTLY what i expected. just kind of within herself, no? i guess that could be interpreted as "oh, more of the same," but uh, i don't really know if that's even a bad thing?

Surmounter, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 22:47 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.zshare.net/audio/74929060c5403d/

The Brainwasher, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 22:47 (eighteen years ago)

"I WILL HUNT YOU DOWWWWWWWWN"

The Brainwasher, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 22:48 (eighteen years ago)

It's nice , nothing major but it'll do what it's meant to - a nice buzz single before she drops the megaton bomb ballad that she has in store for the second single. It's a much better first single than "It's Like That".. catchy, sweet spring-time hit.

The Brainwasher, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 22:55 (eighteen years ago)

agreed, agreed.

you think there's a megabomb coming?

i mean no, it's nothing major but it's perfectly solid.

Surmounter, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 22:55 (eighteen years ago)

no I mean that she's going to drop a MAJOR second single which will be a ballad and rule the charts ( a la "We Belong Together"). They're not straying far from the TEOM forumla.

The Brainwasher, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 22:56 (eighteen years ago)

formula*

The Brainwasher, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 22:56 (eighteen years ago)

well i certainly hope not, that would be great

Surmounter, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 22:57 (eighteen years ago)

i'm kind of disappointed that the song is so sweet tho, lol. I was expecting UBER-SKANK Mariah.

The Brainwasher, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 23:01 (eighteen years ago)

can't stop playing this

The Brainwasher, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 00:26 (eighteen years ago)

totes. it is kind of sweet but for some reason i like that! i'm ready for sweet, but you're right i was expecting the SKANK too ;)

Surmounter, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 01:51 (eighteen years ago)

this is actually kind of a fantastic song. the pulsating synths are great - the production overall is stellar, and her voice does exactly what you want it to. and the lyrics work somehow.

Surmounter, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 04:07 (eighteen years ago)

i love this.

The Brainwasher, Thursday, 14 February 2008 19:16 (eighteen years ago)

i dunno, even when she's skanky it's in a weirdly girlish, innocent way.

Alex in Baltimore, Thursday, 14 February 2008 19:21 (eighteen years ago)

I would still have sex with her.

filthy dylan, Thursday, 14 February 2008 19:40 (eighteen years ago)

yeah that "I WILL HUNT YOU DOWN" cracks me up every time, and the syncopation of the first four lines of each verse is some bugs bunny opera shit. i vote A+; can you imagine how this would sound on the radio?

Dimension 5ive, Thursday, 14 February 2008 19:48 (eighteen years ago)

yes!! i'm so excited

Surmounter, Thursday, 14 February 2008 20:06 (eighteen years ago)

it sounds even awesomer on the radio if u can imagine

The Brainwasher, Friday, 15 February 2008 20:37 (eighteen years ago)

i kind of can. kind of thumpin but sweet but energetic?

maybe?

not that i ever listen to music radio... geez i kind of miss it.

Surmounter, Friday, 15 February 2008 23:29 (eighteen years ago)

COME ON AND GIVE ME WHAT III DESEEEEEEEEERVEEEEE

The Brainwasher, Saturday, 16 February 2008 19:11 (eighteen years ago)

still awesome.

The Brainwasher, Saturday, 23 February 2008 02:30 (eighteen years ago)

I love it. Sultry and subtle without being slight... Stunning!

Christyles, Saturday, 23 February 2008 12:02 (eighteen years ago)

VH1 Previews E=MC²

Yesterday, Island/Def Jam honcho L.A. Reid hosted a few journalists in his office for a special preview of Mariah Carey's upcoming E=MC² album, tentatively due April 15. While Reid looked on, Mariah's A&R man and long-rumored beau Mark Sudack played 12 of the album's cuts from his laptop, often passionately (and adorably!) singing along. On the album, there was drama, there was death, there was disco. What follows is a track-by-track breakdown of our impressions of the album. Note that this isn't the final track sequence, that L.A. ticked off the producers list to us but it is by no means etched in stone and the tracks that we heard weren't always mastered.

One final note: so much of this album is sung in Mariah's chest voice. The vocal gymnastics and whistle notes, while there ('cause, duh, it's Mariah!), take a backseat to clear, purposeful singing, and Mariah sounds better for it. Oh yeah, Mimi's back.

1. "Migrate" (co-produced by Danja) -- After announcing itself with Mariah's patented whistle notes, this club track gets to bangin' and it takes that task really seriously. It's about as meta as a banger gets, with Mariah explaining during the chorus how her night goes: "From the car to the club / We migrate / From the bar to the V.I.P. / We migrate." And so it goes, from the party to the after party, from the after party to the hotel. There's a slight autotune effect on Mariah's voice on the last "migrate" of each chorus, which I assume is to put her on equal ground with the man she shares the mic with here. T-Pain, mercifully shows up for just a guest verse -- this is not a full-blown duet. It's a feisty track, with tough Storch-esque beats that Mariah's bravado attempts to match: "If you're inked up thuggin', that's what I like," she says. See, I always thought she went for the pretty boys. Already we're learning stuff!

2. "Touch My Body" (co-produced with Christopher "Tricky" Stewart and The-Dream) -- There isn't much to say about this ultra-femme track that wasn't said when it leaked. Hard to believe that that was only a little more than week ago -- in the time since, it's become so ubiquitous that it's kind of hard to imagine what radio was like before it. Even L.A. seemed taken aback by how quickly it has caught on -- he described the track's out-of-the-gate success as virtually accidental.

3. "Last Kiss" (co-produced by Jermaine Dupri) -- One of the album's many declarations of eternal love, this one is "We Belong Together, Part 35." It's nice but extremely safe. One thing that's very much in its favor are Mariah's vocals, which are nimble as they are in "We Belong Together" (she changes up her flow more times than I could count) and maybe more robust than they've sounded in over a decade. There's a nice little duet at the end of this one between Mariah's full chest voice and her higher register. Of course, if she didn't show off that stellar natural resource, this wouldn't be a Mariah Carey album.

4. "Lovin' You Long Time" (co-produced by DJ Toomp) -- Pure and utter joy is this one, which is most reminiscent of the lovely Mimi outtake "When I Feel It." Except this one's, like, 10 times better. The chorus of DeBarge's "Stay With Me" is the foundation of this track (as opposed to the verses, which provided the foundation for the single remix of Biggie's "One More Chance" and Ashanti's "Foolish," among tracks). However, the sample sounds more weathered, and overall, the track comes off as a '60s throwback rather than an '80s one. One hundred percent feel-good and packing in a killer breakdown and conclusion that's a wall of Mariah voices, this was the first song that felt like the work of unstoppable pop genius.

5. "Thanx for Nothin'" (co-produced by Jermaine Durpri) -- A mid-tempo ballad that sports a beat rougher than anything Jermaine Dupri has laid down for Mariah and a guitar line not unlike Mimi's "So Lonely" (though this track is more sassy and less dour than that), "Thanx" suggests that Mariah and Jermaine aren't sentenced to live in the shadow of their former glory and can actually make relatively new sounds together. Lyrically, this break-up track is a cross between the self-deprecating "Mine Again" ("I never knew enough about you, babe / And I guess I only have myself to blame") and the streetwise posturing of "Get Your Number" ("Seems like all I do is think about your pseudo-romance / While you're somewhere burnin' diesel in the streets, havin' laughs"). Mariah packs in so many lyrics that she barely has time to sing them, and sort of just growls them. It's not nearly as ridiculous as that description might make it sound.

6. "That Chick" (co-produced by Stargate) -- Instant. Classic. An absolutely brilliant disco track that plays on Mariah's strengths and sexiness without ever crossing the line into indulgence. It's slick, it's chic (and Chic, with its slap-you-on-the-ass bass line), it's silly ("La da da a oooh wee-wee" goes the bit between the chorus and the verses) and it carries a killer middle 8 that's as exhilarating as the one in Michael Jackson's "P.Y.T." (you know, the best part of one of the best songs ever that goes, "Don't you know nowwwww / Is the perfect time..."?). Mariah makes references to 2Pac and Biggie, compares herself to ice cream and the lottery and maybe even references the long-lost track from the Charmbracelet sessions "Touch the Sky." Oh, and also she delivers the most her line of her career, complete with a 10-cent word: "I brings that levity." Maybe one day they'll bottle the essence of Mariah, but until then, we have "That Chick" and I seriously am counting down the days till I can hear this track again. This needs to be a single, like, now, and Mariah needs to dust off those "Heartbreaker" remix roller skates for the video, pronto.

7. "Cruise Control" (co-produced by Jermaine Dupri) -- Another J.D. track that deviates from what could have been a detrimental pattern, this is a reggae-lite extended car metaphor ("I need a caddy wit some cruise control," belts Mariah). The chorus consists of her spelling out, "C-R-U-I-S-E control" and the second verse finds Mariah adopting a Jamaican affect for kicks: "When da door open I de gals pon de block / They be hop-on, to rob the clock / Me say no mam / Step up step up / Bottle broken / Tink I'm jokin'." Seriously, she says that. Damien Marley gets a guest verse, and I have to say, his shtick is a little more convincing.

8. "Side Effects" (co-produced by Scott Storch) -- You know how sometimes Southern rap almost has a heavy metal feel? Mariah and Storch exploit that by turning out a Southern-fried power ballad that's a thinly veiled portrait of her time under Tommy Mottola's reign ("Hell we built, and I dealt with it…Kept my tears inside ‘cause I knew if I started, I'd keep cryin' for the rest of my life with you / I finally built up the strength to walk away / Don't regret it…"). For someone as guarded as Mariah is publicly, it's shockingly frank (she alludes to "violent times") and really naked (the titular side effects refer to the toll the relationship has taken on her: she's "still a little depressed inside" and "still a little defensive thinkin' folks be tryin' to run my life"). This is another highlight, and having a rapper so associated with drugs (Jeezy) on a track called "Side Effects" that isn't about drugs at all, only makes things cleverer.

9. "Love Story" (co-produced by Jermaine Dupri) -- Anther ode to endless love ("This ain't no fairy tale or fiction / This is truly ours for eternity"), this ballad is more of the baby-making ilk. It's like Prince-lite with a synthesized beat a la "The Beautiful Ones," but not as effects-laden (i.e. the beat doesn't have the backwards sound). The melody is reminiscent of Mimi's "Joyride," and that should give you an indication of how sweet this track is.

10. "OOC" (co-produced by Swizz Beatz) -- This one has a pummeling thump so pronounced, it's somewhat surprising that it's not the work of Stargate or Tricky. "OOC" stands for "out of control," and while the track isn't exactly wild, it's a fun mix of The-Dream's "Ditch That N…" with a melody like Blu Cantrell's "Hit ‘Em Up Style." Besides the hypnotic refrain of "Forever and ever," the track is most notable for including the word motherf***er. As in, "I know y'all motherf***ers feel like we / When you're messin' with the one true lova / That makes you OOC." Hardcore!

11. "Bye Bye" (co-produced by Stargate) -- When Mariah first started promoting Mimi, she described "We Belong Together" as a cross between "Breakdown" and "One Sweet Day." That description is infinitely more appropriate for "Bye Bye," a song about death that's "for my people who just lost somebody," "for my people who lost their grandmothers" and seemingly for Mariah's departed father, Alfred Roy ("You never got to see me back at No. 1"). It's nice that Mariah's on a confessional kick, although a track with the "We Belong Together" sonic template and lyrics tailored appeal to everyone on such a basic level seems like too easy of a combination for someone as established as Mimi. This one's like insurance -- in case nothing else is a hit, here's a sure-shot. But ultimately, it turns out that the album is too good for that.

12. "I Wish You Well" (co-produced by James Poyser) -- We were told that this was hot off the presses and a very rough version of the song, but even in its unpolished state, it was a stunner. A piano ballad that features Mariah, some gospel-tinged backing vocals, a piano and that's it, this track is a throwback to the fan-favorite "Vanishing" from her 1990 debut. Part feisty ("You can't manipulate me like before") and totally spiritual (Mariah name-checks a bible verse in the chorus, although I couldn't catch exactly what it was, and she ends the song repeating, "The Lord is my salvation / I will trust in him"), "I Wish You Well" will have fans wetting themselves. It's gorgeous and in its simplistic way, the type of risk that Mariah should take more often.

The risky moments on the album ("Lovin' You Long Time," "That Chick," "Side Effects" and "I Wish You Well") bode well for the future. Though E=MC² feels extremely safe, there's enough variation to signify some artistic growth. She's cranking out hits and that's fine because that's what she's always done (hitmaking is her medium), but when she goes out of the Top 40 comfort zone, the album truly soars. Over 10 years after she first sang about it, it's only now that Mariah has worked up the courage to really spread her wings. The next question is: how high can they take her?
Source: VH1

The Brainwasher, Saturday, 23 February 2008 20:52 (eighteen years ago)

this album sounds absolutely INCREDIBLE. Can't wait.

The Brainwasher, Saturday, 23 February 2008 20:52 (eighteen years ago)

The risky moments on the album

Did she jungle flaming kebabs while singing???

Alex in NYC, Saturday, 23 February 2008 21:08 (eighteen years ago)

it has some real clunkers

la senora (surm), Friday, 7 May 2010 05:24 (sixteen years ago)

it's overlong, but it has pretty much the perfect amalgamation of modern r&b songwriters/producers -- maybe the ratio is a bit skewed

J0rdan S., Friday, 7 May 2010 05:25 (sixteen years ago)

love story, i stay in love, and maybe even last kiss are all mundane to varying degrees, tho last kiss can be good

and there's always bye bye

la senora (surm), Friday, 7 May 2010 05:26 (sixteen years ago)

i wish i could but a bumper sticker on my car that read "*migrates*"

J0rdan S., Friday, 7 May 2010 05:27 (sixteen years ago)

put*

J0rdan S., Friday, 7 May 2010 05:27 (sixteen years ago)

i went thru a fase where i could not stop singing migrate. especially the verse u just posted thru " cuz my jeans yeah they fit

la senora (surm), Friday, 7 May 2010 05:29 (sixteen years ago)

but it might benefit

me to throw somethin on

to feature my hips

la senora (surm), Friday, 7 May 2010 05:29 (sixteen years ago)

accentuate my *

la senora (surm), Friday, 7 May 2010 05:29 (sixteen years ago)

and steal the show "

la senora (surm), Friday, 7 May 2010 05:29 (sixteen years ago)

i kind of can't get enough of those

― J0rdan S., Thursday, May 6, 2010 10:24 PM Bookmark

there are 6 of them. and 0 of them are good.

moderator requiem forum (The Reverend), Friday, 7 May 2010 06:01 (sixteen years ago)

i get so ooc
out of control baby11

^^^ jam of all times

The Brainwasher, Friday, 7 May 2010 06:07 (sixteen years ago)

i have a feeling there is something really interesting going on melodically/harmonically in that song that I just don't know enough to expound upon

moderator requiem forum (The Reverend), Friday, 7 May 2010 11:46 (sixteen years ago)

nine months pass...

i brings that levity....

banjee trillness (The Reverend), Sunday, 27 February 2011 01:05 (fifteen years ago)

one year passes...

i kinda really fuck with this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9P9cDdXWow&feature=share

lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 18 October 2012 18:32 (thirteen years ago)

one year passes...

jordan

surm, Thursday, 20 February 2014 02:44 (twelve years ago)

i have so much to say to you about this thread but i have to call a friend so gimme a few

surm, Thursday, 20 February 2014 02:44 (twelve years ago)

okay so. first i'm rly glad you bumped this thread a few times. so many classix on this record. that's actually about all i have to say. there you have it.

surm, Thursday, 20 February 2014 03:18 (twelve years ago)

also thanx for nothin is a banger

surm, Saturday, 22 February 2014 01:00 (twelve years ago)

damn, why was I so neggy itt? I totally fux with this album.

imago draggin' (The Reverend), Saturday, 22 February 2014 01:48 (twelve years ago)


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