― amateur!!st, Friday, 26 November 2004 06:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― amateur!!st, Friday, 26 November 2004 06:22 (nineteen years ago) link
my mom has a lot of jackson browne records.. guessing by this thread, i should steal "running on empty." which others are worthwhile?
― Ian John50n (orion), Friday, 26 November 2004 06:26 (nineteen years ago) link
i am not drunk, unless one can get drunk on turkey and peach cobbler.
― amateur!!st, Friday, 26 November 2004 06:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― g--ff (gcannon), Friday, 26 November 2004 07:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― amateur!!st, Friday, 26 November 2004 07:22 (nineteen years ago) link
Ah, the gang: I knew it well. I'd had an encounter with one of its thugs, see, and in the process got tossed by said mag for telling what was it?, oh yes, the truth. This was '72. After several false starts, Jackson Browne finally had an album out, which seemed a good occasion to bring to light some interesting hokum from his past--I'd known the mutha since '67. So I did the first feature on him for Rolling Stone or anywhere else--a rave, for crying out loud, and he freaking hated it, thought it made him look "too punk." And what might be so wrong with that? Before twelve people knew who the fuck he was, he was like some weird-isn't-the-word cross between the Young Marble Giants, say--or from a later universe: Cat Power--and Byron or Shelley. On his first visit to New York, he backed up (and horizontal-danced with) the fabulous NICO, had a connection to Lou Reed and the Warhol crowd, blah blah blooey. So I talked all this stuff up--what the hey--it was what I thought would make him MOST APPEALING. And he's so upset he gets Asylum Records prez David Geffen to call the Stone and have me booted, good riddance, don't come back.
Four years later, I was eating at South Town Soul Food in L.A. when Jackson walked in with gang-sister number one Linda Ronstadt. Not wanting her exposed to my cooties, he motions for her to stay put, struts over, sits down, and in less than a minute explains to me how it is. "We singer-songwriters"--he always relished being part of something (but imagine calling yourself such hogwipe)--"feel we get a better shake from this Cameron kid...he never challenges us...accepts our side of the story...we don't have to worry what he'll say...no offense, but..." I.e., writers exist to write-about-musicians, bub...so go wash dishes or something.
poor thing.
― g--ff (gcannon), Friday, 26 November 2004 07:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― Baaderonixxx le Jeune (Fabfunk), Friday, 26 November 2004 09:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― Mooro (Mooro), Friday, 26 November 2004 17:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Friday, 26 November 2004 17:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― amateur!!st, Friday, 26 November 2004 20:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― fancybill, Friday, 26 November 2004 23:12 (nineteen years ago) link
Lots of comments here on the Jackson songs recorded by Nico on Chelsea Girls, plus Meltzer's comments on Jackson's early songs. There was a double LP acetate album produced in '67 as a songwriting demo album. Jackson has never released the stuff, but it has been bootlegged as the Nina Demos. I think Meltzer's comments are a little over the top--there's a saccharine element to some of these songs--but I swear there are like fifteen or more songs on the thing that are as good as those three songs on Chelsea Girls.
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 31 January 2005 19:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 31 January 2005 19:20 (nineteen years ago) link
Steve Noonan's Elektra album is worth hearing. Meltzer has some things about it in Aesthetics of Rock.
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 31 January 2005 19:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 05:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― Baaderonixxxorzh (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 07:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 12:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 16:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 16:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 16:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 16:17 (nineteen years ago) link
i must say: alex, you've outdone yourself
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 16:36 (nineteen years ago) link
i dunno, his sense of humor seems really academic and leaden to me. i say this as a pretty big fan of his first 2 1/2 records.
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 16:39 (nineteen years ago) link
I also love his "Mae Jean Goes to Hollywood," done brilliantly by the Byrds...and I just heard a good version of it by Johnny Darrell, on this Raven Byrds-associated song comp called "Byrd Parts 2."
I mean, I think that's his best song ever.
Overall, though, not someone I go back to. I kinda think "Running on Empty" album is all right. He was on the road and all. I share Alex's wish to consign the Eagles to some eternal hell, though--even though I admit to liking "Take It to the Limit" and sort of halfway respecting some of what they did otherwise, like "Life in the Fast Lane," which is, uh, really well performed and recorded...
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 16:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 27 May 2005 17:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 27 May 2005 17:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Mad Puffin, Friday, 27 May 2005 17:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 27 May 2005 17:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 27 May 2005 17:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 27 May 2005 17:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 27 May 2005 18:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 27 May 2005 18:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 27 May 2005 19:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 27 May 2005 22:46 (nineteen years ago) link
The other day I had a sudden, intense need to hear "Tender Is the Night" and "The Pretender" and maybe also "Rock Me on the Water" and even "Lawyers in Love." Just for grins I thought maybe I also needed "Running on Empty" as well.
Holy moley. The dude is catching some very specific range of Boomer middle-aged melancholy that I'm going to find irresistible for a week and then put back on the shelf for another couple decades, but don't harsh my mellow just yet.
I never want to hear "Doctor My Eyes" again but there are a few lyrics of his that I absolutely need to have exist. God sends his spaceships to America. I want to know what became of the changes we waited for love to bring. Looking into their eyes I see them running too. Tender are the hunters. Just make sure you've got it all set to go before you come for my piano.
The production values show some of the worst late-70s excess and bigness/slickness, but then he mostly stick to recognizable, basically timeless rock instrumentation--few synth drums, few sax solos--and it has some agreeable white-t-shirt purity to it. His voice can be too earnest and a bit laconic, but at the same time, the way he sings "the benediction of the neon light" and "now we've got all this room, we've even got the moon" charm me.
― The Mad Puffin (The Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 01:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 02:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― prince rupert, Tuesday, 24 January 2006 02:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― stockholm cindy (winter version) (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 02:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 03:28 (eighteen years ago) link
just yesterday a friend tried to convince me that Jackson Browne is better than Tom Petty. i wasn't having it, but i need to hear more browne
― jaxon (jaxon), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 06:04 (eighteen years ago) link
― retrogurl, Tuesday, 24 January 2006 07:49 (eighteen years ago) link
But yeah, "Tender Is The Night" is prolly my POO...
― rogermexico (rogermexico), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 19:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 19:27 (eighteen years ago) link
the albums are pretty uniformly excellent in my opinion all the way up through The Pretender
― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 20:17 (eighteen years ago) link
― kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 21:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 21:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 01:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 05:18 (eighteen years ago) link
Whoah nice! I totally missed Note of Hope. I forgot when they first did Mermaid Avenue, they mentioned they were going to continue creating music for Woody's unpublished words beyond having Bragg and Wilco do it.
― birdistheword, Wednesday, 27 July 2022 20:38 (one year ago) link
Now that you mention it, I just checked, and here's a fairly mind-blogging list of Woody projects to date, in various media, with descriptions---I knew some of them, like the Klezmatics albums, with all songs completed by Woody, I think (got interested in Jewish life via Marjory and her fam)---also, the tribute concert issued in '72 is mentioned here, and I have that LP, with scorching set by Dylan & The Band etc---also have all three volumes of Mermaid Avenue, and some others--but maaan: https://www.woodyguthrie.org/norapress.htm
― dow, Wednesday, 27 July 2022 21:00 (one year ago) link
lol my cousin and her husband are suing Jackson Browne for access to their property.
https://www.newsbreak.com/news/2816497086916/famed-songwriter-jackson-browne-wrestling-property-dispute-in-santa-cruz-superior-court
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 22:08 (one year ago) link
I hope they have lawyers...
in love
― blissfully unawarewolf (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 22:17 (one year ago) link
Something about this Jackson Browne song sounds like something from "Graceland" at half-speed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=er1SCSOaTb4
Some weird comments on that video. Like the first one:
Time can't touch this tune,. Good memories cruising with friends, jamming, drag racing,. Anything was possible in the night, we were lucky to had them. I'm 52 now. But it's fresh as yesterday.
Which means the guy was, what, 15? In 1983 or so? The comment is written like some grandpa extolling the '60s, not the early '80s. This is an OK song, but not the sort of thing that would (or should) make a teen want to tear things up.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 7 May 2023 20:27 (one year ago) link
I like this track, but I can honestly say it's never made me thinking about driving, much less drag racing. It sounds like something out of comedy, where a guy revs up his car, cranks up this tape and the other passengers are like WTF.
― birdistheword, Sunday, 7 May 2023 21:38 (one year ago) link
Like, "Breaking the Law"? Sure. "Tender is the Night"? Nope.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 7 May 2023 21:46 (one year ago) link
I love that song so much. It made me want to grow up so that I could meaningfully stroke my chin and think baout things, such as being in a sadly doomed romance. Drag racing was not on the agenda. It felt more personal and intimate than its close companion, "Lawyers in Love," which was mixed up with all sorts of Reagan-era apocalypolitical stuff. Whoever made that comment is either deluded or just plan weird.
― coolgnoscenti (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 7 May 2023 22:37 (one year ago) link
Josh --
That YouTube comment is fairly typical.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 7 May 2023 22:44 (one year ago) link
It's just the cultural version of false memory syndrome, where everything in the past blurs into a fuzz of vague meta-nostalgia.
"Yes, I was born in 1975. Whenever I listen to Billy Joel's 'Keeping the Faith' or Paul Simon's 'Late in the Evening,' I am reminded of how much we enjoyed Sen-Sen mints and the many street-corner doo-wop groups in my neighborhood, and how the cars all had big fins on them. Then we'd go down to the diner, to see if the Fonz was there. Man, that Cuban Missile Crisis sure was something, wasn't it?"
― coolgnoscenti (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 7 May 2023 22:52 (one year ago) link
still not sure who started the fire tho
― coolgnoscenti (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 7 May 2023 22:53 (one year ago) link
After all, it was you and me.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 7 May 2023 23:06 (one year ago) link
lol
I am reliably informed that you can't start a fire without a spark
― coolgnoscenti (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 7 May 2023 23:25 (one year ago) link
he's very likeable in the eagles doc
taught glenn frey how to write songs (indirectly, frey was living in the apartment above browne, would wake up to the sound of browne's piano through the floor, listening to browne playing the same verse over and over, 20 times, until he had it down)
― corrs unplugged, Monday, 8 May 2023 07:39 (one year ago) link
will i ever be able to hear "fountain of sorrow" without bursting into tears
― ivy., Wednesday, 30 August 2023 15:25 (nine months ago) link
you've had to hide sometimes, but now you're all right
thats a great song. lady of the well is the jb track that currently gets me.
― nobody respects the chair (Spottie), Thursday, 31 August 2023 00:03 (nine months ago) link
gets me absolutely every time
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 31 August 2023 01:37 (nine months ago) link
It's a good song.
I can still be undone by "Rock Me on the Water," or even "Tender is the Night."
― Pontius Pilates (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 31 August 2023 02:40 (nine months ago) link