Sorry to shatter any illusions but there was no "riot" and actually Edwyn did leave the stage very dutifully, having only been allowed time to perform a couple of numbers because the tossers managing the (second) stage had allowed so many earlier acts to overrun.
Consequently quite a few of us refused to leave the tent and started shaking the central tent poles and loosening the guide ropes and generally threatening to pull the thing down; but when it became apparent that Edwyn had gone and there was no chance of geting hom back and that all we were actually doing was running up a nice big overtime payment for the incompetent twats who'd caused the situation in the first place, we all just gave up and went home.
"Is it true that he said from the stage at this show, "I know that's you, Bobby Gillespie -- shut the fuck up!""
I don't think so; it would certainly have been an extremely strange thing for him to have said, since the band that was playing on the main stage at the time was James.
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 25 February 2005 15:30 (twenty-one years ago)
― MarkG, Friday, 25 February 2005 15:33 (twenty-one years ago)
The film clip for the magic piper of love may have lead you to believe that.
― the other kate (ffs!) (papa november), Friday, 25 February 2005 15:35 (twenty-one years ago)
And I still want to grow up and be Edwyn Collins.
― Hutlock (Hutlock), Friday, 25 February 2005 16:33 (twenty-one years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 25 February 2005 18:16 (twenty-one years ago)
I heard about this this morning on the radio and they should really be ashamed of themselves. This is basically what I heard : "Edwyn Collins was hospitalized after suffering a brain hemorrhage. You may remember his '95 hit 'A Girl like You' even though he probably doesn't anymore." What an asinine thing to say.
― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 25 February 2005 21:33 (twenty-one years ago)
― Michael White (Hereward), Friday, 25 February 2005 23:22 (twenty-one years ago)
― mark p (Mark P), Saturday, 26 February 2005 18:02 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 26 February 2005 18:07 (twenty-one years ago)
Edwyn Collins Remains In Serious Condition
by Paul Cashmere
27 February 2005
Scottish singer Edwyn Collins is fighting for his life after suffering from a brain hemorrhage last weekend (February 20).
One week after Collins was taken to hospital his condition has not improved.
Collins is best known for the 1995 hit single 'A Girl Like You'. Before breaking out as a solo artist he was the lead singer of Scottish band Orange Juice. Orange Juice disbanded in 1984.
He was born in Edinburgh in 1959. He lives in London with his wife Grace who is updating fans at his website.
Collins latest work was as producer for the debut album by Little Barrie.
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Sunday, 27 February 2005 03:29 (twenty-one years ago)
Edwyn had an emergency operation on Friday 25th Febuary.
He has come through it as well as can be hoped for and is continuing to fight. Thank you for all the loving thoughts.
― D> D>, Tuesday, 1 March 2005 12:30 (twenty-one years ago)
― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 12:33 (twenty-one years ago)
As I'm not familiar with the results of brain haemorrhage, I don't know what this means. I only hope he recovers. :-(
― nathalie barefoot in the head (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 12:35 (twenty-one years ago)
Singer Edwyn Collins has undergone emergency brain surgery after suffering a haemorrhage last month.
The 45-year-old Scottish musician's wife Grace Maxwell said the former Orange Juice frontman was recovering and is "as well as can be hoped for".
Collins, who also had success as a solo artist, is in a London hospital while his condition is being stabilised.
Ms Maxwell, also Collins' manager, added in a message posted on his website he was "continuing to fight".
'Loving thoughts'
She also thanked fans and well-wishers for their "loving thoughts", and said she would keep them informed of any developments in the singer's condition.
Collins' biggest hit with Orange Juice was Rip It Up in 1983, which reached number three, and in 1995 he scored a big solo hit with A Girl Like You.
On BBC 6 Music's radio show Roundtable on 18 February, Collins said he had recently been ill.
"I suddenly got a horrible sense of vertigo, the room started spinning around and I started puking up," he said.
But he put it down to food poisoning at the time, adding: "I'm two days into recuperation and I should be fine."
Global hit
Collins was a leading figure on the alternative Scottish scene in the late 1970s and 1980s, forming his first band, Nu-Sonics, aged 17.
They became Orange Juice, who were independent favourites and briefly broke into the mainstream with Rip It Up.
The band Orange Juice
Edwyn Collins' pop path
He pursued a solo career with mixed results until A Girl Like You, at the height of Britpop, which was a top 10 hit in seven countries and reached the top 40 in the US.
In 1999, he created and starred in Channel 4 sitcom West Heath Yard, which featured cameo performances from Jarvis Cocker, Natalie Imbruglia and Alan McGee.
He surfaced again as a guest on Rolf Harris' album after being impressed by the Australian icon's rendition of A Girl Like You.
He had recently turned to producing new bands including Sons and Daughters, The Cribs and Little Barrie.
A compilation of his early songs, The Glasgow School, is due to be released in May.
― Andy Jay, Wednesday, 2 March 2005 13:46 (twenty-one years ago)
― Maxwell von Bismarck (maxwell von bismarck), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 22:49 (twenty-one years ago)
― Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Thursday, 3 March 2005 09:23 (twenty-one years ago)
I didn't know that. Was this good, was it?
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 3 March 2005 12:54 (twenty-one years ago)
― Some Dadaismus Implied (Dada), Thursday, 3 March 2005 13:39 (twenty-one years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 3 March 2005 13:45 (twenty-one years ago)
― Some Dadaismus Implied (Dada), Thursday, 3 March 2005 13:47 (twenty-one years ago)
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 3 March 2005 13:55 (twenty-one years ago)
― Some Dadaismus Implied (Dada), Thursday, 3 March 2005 13:57 (twenty-one years ago)
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 3 March 2005 14:07 (twenty-one years ago)
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 3 March 2005 14:10 (twenty-one years ago)
― Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Thursday, 3 March 2005 14:27 (twenty-one years ago)
― Momus (Momus), Thursday, 3 March 2005 15:35 (twenty-one years ago)
Incidentally, I saw you Momus on prime-time TV just last night, discussing parasites and eye damage at some length on a BBC doco. Nasty! (and not the way one would've hoped you'd broaden your antipodean audience!) : (
― Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Friday, 4 March 2005 00:13 (twenty-one years ago)
Best wishes.
― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Friday, 4 March 2005 01:01 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sven Bastard (blueski), Friday, 4 March 2005 01:08 (twenty-one years ago)
― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 10:54 (twenty-one years ago)
Poor Edwyn, I really hope for the best for him.
― Bidfurd, Tuesday, 8 March 2005 11:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 17:32 (twenty-one years ago)
"Dear All This is the most relaxed I've feltabout giving you news since this all began.I think we can say that Edwyn is now virtually out of immediate danger. We are organising his next move, to intensive neuro rehabilitation, which should happen in the next few weeks at the latest. This is a tough challenge, but you know he's beaten the odds already and I fully expect him to go on in his customary stubborn manner. He is aware of the wonderful support he has received and I'm printing all the messages out so he can read them when he is able in the near future. If you wish, you can send cards to him at: West Heath Studios, West Heath Yard, 174 Mill Lane, London, NW6 1TB.
Meanwhile, his doctors are delighted and a bit confounded at his progress. He's Edwyn. Love to you all Grace"
― Momus (Momus), Friday, 18 March 2005 22:46 (twenty-one years ago)
― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Saturday, 19 March 2005 00:46 (twenty-one years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Saturday, 19 March 2005 18:16 (twenty-one years ago)
Latest from his website (good news):
"Dearest All, Thank you for all the continuing messages. I read them all and draw strength from every heartfelt thought. He's such an unsentimental person in every day life I wonder how he will react when he realises what you have all done for him. Meanwhile his progress continues. He breathes for himself, he's eating real food again (as of today), he's communicating and battling for returning mobility. I have complete faith in him. Today is our best day yet. Thanks for everything, Love Grace and William (who is, by the way, a hero.)"
― Manfred, Thursday, 24 March 2005 17:41 (twenty-one years ago)
On: Monday, April 18, 2005 12:22:09 AM
Well, Edwyn's surgery went off without incident. He was understandably wiped out for a couple of days. He still has some infection in there which they are doing battle with. His fighting powers against these predatory infections is consistently ridiculously strong but I'm sure you all get it when I say I'm right back in the worry zone. Giving you these updates isn't a bother for me. On the contrary I've come to rely on your messages to get me off to sleep. Hmm. I've a feeling Edwyn might call this attention seeking. By the way, he has been singing these past few days. His tuning needs working on...Love Grace
AND
On: Friday, April 22, 2005 09:04:09 PM
The [Sunday Times] (don't know if it's the Scottish version or nationally) plan to run a story on Sunday about Edwyn and MRSA. I have not spoken to them, will not speak to them and would like to state once more for the record that we owe a serious debt of gratitude to the doctors and nurses and domestic staff of the Royal Free whose skill, professionalism, compassion and kindness have got Edwyn through this ordeal. He continues to improve every day and we hope to be back to the rehab unit before very long. With love to you, his real supporters, Grace
― Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Sunday, 24 April 2005 02:36 (twenty-one years ago)
His wife Grace Maxwell wrote on his website that the infection has been "very difficult to get under control".
Collins, who had hits with Rip It Up and A Girl Like You, required further surgery to remove infected scar tissue.
'Enduring gratitude'
Mrs Maxwell also said: "I'm hopeful that we've turned a corner. Edwyn continues to feel quite well in himself."
It emerged that Collins has been suffering with the so-called "superbug" for some weeks.
A piece of bone which was replaced at the beginning of April had to be removed again after an infection was detected.
Collins (right) burst onto the music scene with his band Orange Juice
The former frontman of Scottish pop group Orange Juice had left the north London hospital to be treated at a rehabilitation centre, but returned a day later.
A statement from the Royal Free Hospital said: "Grace and the family would like to restate their enduring gratitude to staff for the lifesaving care they have given to Edwyn."
It added that "he continues to improve under the watchful eye of the medical team".
Collins was taken to hospital on 20 February, several days after complaining of vertigo and vomiting.
The Edinburgh-born singer-songwriter then had emergency surgery after suffering a second haemorrhage.
― Manfred, Sunday, 8 May 2005 10:44 (twenty-one years ago)
― Momus (Momus), Sunday, 8 May 2005 12:22 (twenty-one years ago)
Noted: The Cons slogan "A brighter Britain" like they were promising better weather.
Anyhow I digress.
The MRSA problem has been known about for a very long time. It predates
Actually, I shall leave it there.
― mark grout (mark grout), Sunday, 8 May 2005 18:48 (twenty-one years ago)
― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Sunday, 8 May 2005 19:24 (twenty-one years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 9 May 2005 07:18 (twenty-one years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 9 May 2005 09:02 (twenty-one years ago)
― log me out quick! (nostudium), Monday, 9 May 2005 09:06 (twenty-one years ago)
Being dirty is one of the very least of Reading hospitals' problems when compared with the absolutely breathtaking incompetence of some it's medical staff, the even more breathtaking arrogance of some of it's Consultants and the pathetically toothless, spineless, feeble ineffectuality of it's Complaints Department and procedures.
Believe me, you really don't want to get me started on all this right now.
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 9 May 2005 11:35 (twenty-one years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 9 May 2005 11:42 (twenty-one years ago)
A&E could do better.
Neurology negligent and incompetent.
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 9 May 2005 11:51 (twenty-one years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 9 May 2005 11:53 (twenty-one years ago)
Not that he's bothered of course - he's evidently still far more interested in manipulating his statistics by repeatedly taking her off his waiting list as a supposedly "succesful" case; and sending her back via her GP right to the back of his 4-month waiting list again; than he is in trying to find a diagnosis, a course of treatment or even any pain relief for the constant pain she's been in as a result of the auto-immune disorder (almost certainly triggered by the stroke - another text book classic of course) that's been making her body's natural defence systems go into overdrive and start attacking and destroying perfectly good body tissue and internal organs for the whole of the last 11 months.
And people wonder why I can get just the teensy weensiest bit grumpy sometimes....
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 9 May 2005 12:12 (twenty-one years ago)
maybe my favorite thing he ever did?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULZtVYBCL08
"means to an end" (1990)
― "another slice of death, please." (Austin), Wednesday, 8 November 2023 06:56 (two years ago)
from the album hellbent on compromise♥︎
― "another slice of death, please." (Austin), Wednesday, 8 November 2023 06:59 (two years ago)
i'm honestly slightly aghast at how much no one seems to care/know about this song. <800 listsners and <2000 scrobbles on last.fm, not on streaming, and <1000 views on youtube. i just happened on a used cd copy years ago by complete chance and that's the first track. the rest of the album is kind of a standard jangly 1990 alterna-thing. none of it retains that same eerie atmosphere as on "means to an end." the song was co-written with paul quinn (who goes way back w/ec). anyway, what a tune.
― "another slice of death, please." (Austin), Wednesday, 8 November 2023 07:15 (two years ago)
kind of has a leonard cohen thing going on
― budo jeru, Wednesday, 8 November 2023 18:54 (two years ago)
this is lovelyhttps://thequietus.com/interviews/bakers-dozen/all-for-the-songs-edwyn-collins-favourite-music/
― willem, Wednesday, 12 March 2025 09:55 (one year ago)
Album seems fairly decent.
― djh, Saturday, 15 March 2025 22:11 (one year ago)
Bandsplain recently had an episode about how “A Girl Like You” is a perfect song and it had a lot of Collins & OJ background info. I got into Orange Juice randomly when all of their albums were reissued for Record Store Day several years ago; they were cheap and I grabbed all of them without ever hearing them. I fell in love but didn’t realize it was the”Girl Like You” guy until very recently.
The podcast prompted me to buy a copy of Gorgeous George and it’s really good. The production is probably a little dated but it reminds me so much of Pulp. The lyrics, his manner of singing, the music. I guess it needs some funky synths. Thankfully I wasn’t around radio or MTV so the big hit doesn’t bug me.
― Cow_Art, Saturday, 29 March 2025 20:33 (one year ago)
Not an OJ fan but I do dig Gorgeous George, really varied album with some great guitar sounds
― brimstead, Saturday, 29 March 2025 20:57 (one year ago)
“Low Expectations” might be my favorite off of it. Is “Gorgeous George” about Boy George? I want it to be about Boy George.
― Cow_Art, Saturday, 29 March 2025 21:03 (one year ago)
Album seems fairly decent.― djh
― djh
About a very thorough and good Orange Juice CD/DVD round-up, Coals To Newcastle (2010)---originally in the Village Voice, archived here because ancient Voice links can go astray:
https://myvil.blogspot.com/2016/06/you-young-eccentric.html
― dow, Saturday, 29 March 2025 21:08 (one year ago)
Gorgeous George has a song called “North of Heaven,” which is a sad, straight-forward country-tinged love song that for absolutely no reason has the following lyrics: “Some mother’s talking ‘bout Guns ‘n’ Roses, as if I give a fuck. At best I think they suck. I’m too preoccupied with my memories, not nonentities.”
― Cow_Art, Saturday, 29 March 2025 21:24 (one year ago)
Really love the ez disco-y “if you could love me”https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PTde0LIbX4
― brimstead, Sunday, 30 March 2025 00:13 (one year ago)
> Gorgeous George
i know the name from a famous wrestler
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorgeous_George
> George Raymond Wagner (March 24, 1915 – December 26, 1963) was an American professional wrestler known by his ring name Gorgeous George.
― koogs, Sunday, 30 March 2025 16:20 (one year ago)
Also a nickname for George Galloway, though I suspect he came up with it himself.
― Please play Lou Reed's irritating guitar sounds (Tom D.), Sunday, 30 March 2025 16:57 (one year ago)
That Gorgeous George wiki is a trip in itself---dunno if all its claims are true, but yeah Muhammad Ali and James Brown acknowledged his influence---makes me think of early 70s Alice Cooper too, screwing with the audience---ditto Andy Kaufman, who even worked wrestling into his act, and made that take-off on My Dinner with Andre Kaufman's film short was the raucousBreakfast With Blassie, co-starring the George opponent mentioned by Wiki.(And I think George is in that early 70s Creem cover feature, The Androgyny Hall of Fame.)
― dow, Sunday, 30 March 2025 21:26 (one year ago)
Yeah, I had heard of the wrestler but nothing in the song really pins it to him. I still think it’s about Boy George.
― Cow_Art, Sunday, 30 March 2025 21:34 (one year ago)
― brimstead
yeah the thing i like about that album is it's kinda like one of those free cds that used to come with guitar mags where they do an fx pedal rundown and demo each one
― doe on a hill (Deflatormouse), Sunday, 30 March 2025 21:38 (one year ago)
new album -which is indeed decent- prompted a revisit to i'm not following you. my controp here is a positive one: i think that's his best solo album. it's so much fun and just kaleidoscopic in its subjects. i love 'mess' albums and it exemplifies how that could go accidentally right in the mid-90s. love it so much. and mes is on it!
also idk when this happened, but his jangly 1990 album hellbent on compromise has hit streaming platforms in the usa. very recommended.
― Constance Mischievous (Austin), Monday, 14 April 2025 21:01 (one year ago)
Come to think of it, Coals To Newcastle, review of which I linked above, is now 15 years old, so you might could get some good deals on a used or even sealed copy---like it says in there, has
OJ's apparently very, very complete output, including tracks rescued from flexi-discs, B-side stingers, 12-inch dub mixes, and demos, alongside the two and a half albums completed and released during the band's 1979–1985 active status: 124 remastered audio tracks total, including 16 previously unreleased. The DVD adds a couple early videos for singles to the TV performances and concert footage previously issued on VHS as Dada With (the) Juice.
― dow, Sunday, 18 May 2025 23:30 (one year ago)