Lana Del Rey

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More importantly than any of this... we're currently arguing in my record shop as to whether she should be filed under 'R' (Ray, Lana Del) or 'D' (Del Ray, Lana).

The most popular comedy answer is definitely 'I'd file her in the bin!'.

only NWOFHM! is real (krakow), Thursday, 26 January 2012 15:35 (fourteen years ago)

'L' for Land Del Rey.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 26 January 2012 15:45 (fourteen years ago)

Lana, fucking hell fingers.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 26 January 2012 15:45 (fourteen years ago)

Landfill Del Rey

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 26 January 2012 15:46 (fourteen years ago)

We always file under surname, so that part isn't going to change; it is either D or R. I initially used R but I'm coming round to D.

only NWOFHM! is real (krakow), Thursday, 26 January 2012 15:48 (fourteen years ago)

It's obv. D, R is madness

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 26 January 2012 15:48 (fourteen years ago)

Supposedly there used to be a record shop where I come from where the T section was almost as big as all the other sections put together, because they put every band whose name began with 'The' in there. Not sure if I believe that tho.

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 26 January 2012 15:52 (fourteen years ago)

um her surname begins with D, obviously

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Thursday, 26 January 2012 15:55 (fourteen years ago)

Supposedly there used to be a record shop where I come from where the T section was almost as big as all the other sections put together, because they put every band whose name began with 'The' in there. Not sure if I believe that tho.

― Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, January 26, 2012 9:52 AM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i've seen stores like this.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 26 January 2012 16:16 (fourteen years ago)

I think in English, it's standard to include the particule when alphabetizing. In Romance languages, it's not since there are a zillion names that begin with de and del and della, etc..., and cause it's not really part of the surname but simply implies that the family is from somewhere or belongs to someone. It's often associated with aristocracy which is why many dropped the use thereof during the Revolution.

Quand le déshonneur est public, il faut que la vengeance soit (Michael White), Thursday, 26 January 2012 16:19 (fourteen years ago)

file her under T, the lana del rey

the star of many snuff films (Edward III), Thursday, 26 January 2012 16:21 (fourteen years ago)

That Lana del Rey

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 26 January 2012 16:26 (fourteen years ago)

File her under D
or file her under V for Video Games...

Mark G, Thursday, 26 January 2012 16:27 (fourteen years ago)

i file Wings records under M. hope that isn't a problem for anyone...

scott seward, Thursday, 26 January 2012 16:27 (fourteen years ago)

paul wccarthy and mings

the star of many snuff films (Edward III), Thursday, 26 January 2012 16:30 (fourteen years ago)

Real question here is where you put McCartney, i.e. do you treat Mc as Mac or not?

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 26 January 2012 16:33 (fourteen years ago)

In comments published in German, McCartney, who has two albums due out this year, said many youngsters would probably hear his music for the first time through playing the ... video game.

Mark G, Thursday, 26 January 2012 16:36 (fourteen years ago)

let's get back to talking about whether or not video games is a good song or not

the star of many snuff films (Edward III), Thursday, 26 January 2012 16:39 (fourteen years ago)

I am officially convinced on the 'D' issue now, after a most instructive & entertaining discussion via the shop's facebook page.

only NWOFHM! is real (krakow), Thursday, 26 January 2012 16:43 (fourteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsFjlLXP9GU

the star of many snuff films (Edward III), Thursday, 26 January 2012 16:54 (fourteen years ago)

so anyway video games isn't really about video games, it's about a boyfriend who forced her to make sex vids. it all makes sense now, she's like a 21st century joyce carol oates.

swinging in the backyard
pull up in your fast car
whistling my name

open up a beer
and you say get over here
and play a video game

I'm in his favorite sun dress
watching me get undressed
take that body downtown

I say you the bestest
lean in for a big kiss
put his favorite perfume on
go play a video game

it's you, it's you, it's all for you
everything I do
I tell you all the time
heaven is a place on earth with you
tell me all the things you want to do
I heard that you like the bad girls
honey, is that true?

the star of many snuff films (Edward III), Thursday, 26 January 2012 17:00 (fourteen years ago)

P!tchf0rk prediction?

8.1

piscesx, Thursday, 26 January 2012 17:08 (fourteen years ago)

I thought it was "whispering"...

How do you whistle someone's name?

Mark G, Thursday, 26 January 2012 17:12 (fourteen years ago)

5.9

Meme Rogers (DL), Thursday, 26 January 2012 17:14 (fourteen years ago)

why the fuck does the non-youtube version clip and distort? is that an aesthetic decision these days?

♈ᘮﬡᕮ-Ꭹᗩᖇᗪᔕ - ᗯ ᖺ ᗢ Ḱ ᓰ ᒪ ᒪ (diamonddave85), Thursday, 26 January 2012 17:15 (fourteen years ago)

Whistling as a language

In the Spanish canary island of La Gomera, a traditional whistled language named silbo gomero is still taught in school. Six separate whistling sounds are used to produce two vowels and four consonants, allowing this language to convey more than 4000 words. This language allowed people (e.g. shepherds) to communicate over long distances in the island, when other communication means were not available.

the star of many snuff films (Edward III), Thursday, 26 January 2012 17:18 (fourteen years ago)

A wolf-whistle is a two-toned sound (like 'whip-woo') commonly made using the above technique to show approval of something or someone (originally a person thought to be sexually attractive).

the star of many snuff films (Edward III), Thursday, 26 January 2012 17:21 (fourteen years ago)

'21C Joyce Carol Oates' is the funniest variation on 'gangsta Nancy Sinatra' yet

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(well maybe not funnier than 'white Morrisey')

ban dejar (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 26 January 2012 17:24 (fourteen years ago)

you'll be laughing out the other side of your mouth when your grandkids are deconstructing "video games" in their first year intro to pop music course

the star of many snuff films (Edward III), Thursday, 26 January 2012 17:30 (fourteen years ago)

LOL: http://somecamerunning.typepad.com/some_came_running/2012/01/pop-quiz.html

Michelangelo Antonioni's Zabriskie Point, or grievously overworked quasi-meta record album promo art?

A. http://somecamerunning.typepad.com/.a/6a00e5523026f588340168e61f4b7f970c-800wi

B. http://somecamerunning.typepad.com/.a/6a00e5523026f588340168e61f4c12970c-800wi

C. http://somecamerunning.typepad.com/.a/6a00e5523026f588340168e61f4c99970c-800wi

You got to ro-o-oll me and call me the tumblr whites (Phil D.), Thursday, 26 January 2012 17:32 (fourteen years ago)

dissertation on lesser works of early 21st century youtube divas

the star of many snuff films (Edward III), Thursday, 26 January 2012 17:33 (fourteen years ago)

Middle Age: A Romance (2001)
I'll Take You There (2002)
The Tattooed Girl (2003)
The Falls (2004)
Missing Mom (2005)
Black Girl / White Girl (2006)
The Gravedigger's Daughter (2007)
My Sister, My Love (2008)
Little Bird of Heaven (2009)
A Fair Maiden (2010)
The Crosswicks Horror (Forthcoming)

ban dejar (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 26 January 2012 17:33 (fourteen years ago)

you kidding me? I'd better be teaching that class! xp

ban dejar (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 26 January 2012 17:33 (fourteen years ago)

Born to Die (2012)

the star of many snuff films (Edward III), Thursday, 26 January 2012 17:35 (fourteen years ago)

;)

ban dejar (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 26 January 2012 17:35 (fourteen years ago)

liked it more when it was about loser boyfriend ignoring her in favor of call of duty 4

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Thursday, 26 January 2012 17:40 (fourteen years ago)

it can still be about that if you want, it's a multivalent work open to various readings

the star of many snuff films (Edward III), Thursday, 26 January 2012 17:45 (fourteen years ago)

notice she never actually *says* he plays video games in the song

LDR was just trying to punk ILG and it got out of hand, craaazy

the star of many snuff films (Edward III), Thursday, 26 January 2012 17:48 (fourteen years ago)

liked it more when it was about loser boyfriend ignoring her in favor of call of duty 4

― his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Thursday, January 26, 2012 5:40 PM (3 hours ago)

same here

sarahell, Thursday, 26 January 2012 21:42 (fourteen years ago)

odd future (syd the kid) remix

Makes me think of this contribution that belonged earlier in the thread:

And stab Bruno Mars in his goddamn esophagus
And won't stop until the cops come in
Video gaaaames

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 26 January 2012 21:48 (fourteen years ago)

For worship someone who
Actively despises you
Video gaaaames

beachville, Thursday, 26 January 2012 22:05 (fourteen years ago)

so anyway video games isn't really about video games, it's about a boyfriend who forced her to make sex vids. it all makes sense now, she's like a 21st century joyce carol oates.

where are you getting "forced" from

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Thursday, 26 January 2012 22:07 (fourteen years ago)

"forced" probably a poor word choice... but you say "get over here and play a video game" has an overtone of coercion or dominance.

the star of many snuff films (Edward III), Thursday, 26 January 2012 22:27 (fourteen years ago)

and she doesn't say no, she's clearly party to her own objectification - favorite sundress/favorite perfume/it's all for you...

this is what drives the poignancy of the chorus. sung in a different style, these words could be celebratory, or defiant. but it sounds broken, remorseful, why? the implications are vague, and it's up to the listener to provide the answer. but it's wrapped up in her passivity, her surrender, she'll do anything in order to get a man to like her, even if those things sap her of happiness and self respect.

it's you, it's you, it's all for you
everything I do
I tell you all the time
heaven is a place on earth with you
tell me all the things you want to do
I heard that you like the bad girls
honey, is that true?
it's better than I ever even knew
they say that the world was built for two
only worth living if somebody is loving you
baby now you do

the star of many snuff films (Edward III), Thursday, 26 January 2012 22:45 (fourteen years ago)

Kicking in the front seat
Sitting in the back seat
Video games

future debts collector (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 26 January 2012 22:57 (fourteen years ago)

If I want to be a freak and
Sell it on the weekend
Video gaaaaames

You got to ro-o-oll me and call me the tumblr whites (Phil D.), Thursday, 26 January 2012 23:00 (fourteen years ago)

^

Waxahachie Swap (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 26 January 2012 23:32 (fourteen years ago)

kickin' in the front seat
sittin' in the back seat
video games

― maura, Tuesday, January 24, 2012 7:20 AM (2 days ago)

⚓ (gr8080), Friday, 27 January 2012 00:17 (fourteen years ago)

soz, thought it was a "new one". Credits to Maura then. I woke up this morning with that in my mind actually, so had to post it

future debts collector (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 27 January 2012 00:19 (fourteen years ago)

but it's wrapped up in her passivity, her surrender, she'll do anything in order to get a man to like her, even if those things sap her of happiness and self respect.

for me the key to the song is what tim f wrote about it somewhere. the character in the song will do all those things - while also chiding the guy for still being more interested in his video games than her. the author of the song - the one telling you this story and performing the character - makes it clear that this is a fucked-up and unhealthy situation.

i mean, the fact that the character is being sapped of self-respect and happiness is right there in how the song's performed. if it was just a straightforward "here is how relationships work" love song you wouldn't get that.

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Friday, 27 January 2012 00:20 (fourteen years ago)


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