ILM'S TOP 77 TRACKS of 2011 (Los resultados!)

i gave the ema album a try and it didn't really click, kept meaning to go back but never did. it's not clicking now either but i've just been for a run and am too full of endorphins for this, i think

also her name just makes me think of the educational maintenance allowance, the cutting of which has been a political hot button issue of late here

wow she has done a lot of practicing in front of the mirror, hasn't she

haha CAD OTM

actually this time round i think it's not clicking cuz it sucks and is just a swampy morass of aimless sludge

I quite liked this one but the album grated overall, she's such a clumsy lyricist and it's very difficult to overlook that.

swampy morass of aimless sludge

Sounds great.

I get this song, and tbh it was the last thing I cut from my tracks ballot, but I def was hoping that if it hadn't showed up by #21 that it wouldn't show up

i feel like this is what kim gordon would have done if she never moved to the east coast

ema gives me juliette lewis from NBK vibes

she's such a clumsy lyricist and it's very difficult to overlook that.

you can make out a word she's singing? there is no enunciation going on here

wow she has done a lot of practicing in front of the mirror, hasn't she

lmao

I quite liked this one but the album grated overall, she's such a clumsy lyricist and it's very difficult to overlook that.

― Matt DC, Thursday, January 26, 2012 10:33 AM (41 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

otm--i think it was the interpolation of camptown races that really tipped me off

ema gives me juliette lewis from NBK vibes

this is the film she sang pj harvey songs in right? so much rawer and better

I like some of the other tracks on this EMA record, but this record drives me batty for some reason.

ema gives me juliette lewis from NBK vibes

OTM!

you can make out a word she's singing? there is no enunciation going on here

lex, you may need better headphones

Lex - her lyrics are a lot more front-centre in the other songs.

why does that song never start?
for the record i didn't mean to be critical up there, just noted that she clearly has worked on this act quite a bit. it's kind of impressively fake-sloppy.

Basically, I've nothing against juvenile tunes if they're about sex or partying or drugs, stuff adults can relate to too, but this tune isn't like that at all

You've gotta be kidding me

Nah... Most adults still party and have sex at least once in a while, but few are still mad at their mom and girlfriend for "not understanding them", or whatever that tune was about.

― Tuomas, Thursday, 26 January 2012 15:27 (31 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

The guy is like 19 year's old...? The album isn't great, but for a 19-year old, it's a pretty fine balance between indiscriminate teenage angst and precocious self-analysis - a fair bit of it is tongue in cheek. I dunno, I've spent a lot of time on this board trying to project myself into other's mind-states in order to appreciate a piece or genre of music. I don't go clubbing very often, but I can still imagine what it's like to appreciate a good house record even though I'm not actually there, on pills, dancing to it. Same with hip-hop/r'n'b - as a suburban middle-class white kid from North Hertfordshire, I have very few personal reference points when listening to Waka Flocka - but I still love the shit out of it. I've never turned into a subconscious whiff of water vapour either, but I'm still down with Blanck Mass et al. I was, however, once a teenager and had all the soul-searching and goofiness and rage that went along with that, so it takes slightly less of a remove for me to relate to something like Yonkers than it does a lot of other music. It puzzles me how so many on this board say they "don't get" something like Yonkers because apparently it's juvenile (I fail to see how it's much more juvenile than any other rapper who surrounds himself with semi-naked models, dollar bills, fast cars etc in their videos, is this not just childish fantasy played out in another way?) - just use your illusion, y'know.

Kim Gordon's kind of otm, but I tend to like KG as a lyricist more when she is

a) inscrutable (JC)
b) mouthing cliches (Drunken Butterfly, although this approach can get baaaad)
c) setting up a sort of a narrative that is suggestive in its fragmentation (The Sprawl, Beauty Lies in the Eye)

I think her vocal/lyrical would be a lot less effective in straightforward confessional, and I think if/when she tried it she would probably sound as one-dimensional as I think EMA does

but I haven't had a lot of sleep so I could be wrong

why does that song never start?

This was my exact reaction the first time I heard it.

EMA likes making gun signs with her hand, huh

the interpolation of camptown races that really tipped me off

Hah, that bugged me too, just like Hush Little Baby in that Gang Gang Dance song.

I do have to say it was very brave of EMA to dust off something she wrote when she was 14 and present it unedited like this

yeah i kind of dug it in ggd even though it's a little tacky. ggd pretty clearly going for something different tho.

lol dan

There is no way Kim Gordon would have preened that dully for that long nor would she have relied so heavily on finger guns. She also would have written a better song.

http://i.imgur.com/2b467.jpg

17 - FRANK OCEAN "Novacane" (375 Points, 17 Votes)
P&J - 16
Pitchfork - 41

http://youtu.be/TMfPJT4XjAI

ha Lex must be fuming right now

Not really feeling any of these :(

YIKES

Fav track on the album. Happy it's top 20

I love "Novacane" so much. The beat is so smooth and the flat-effect vocal really cements the story of the song.

lovin that image for novacane

she's such a clumsy lyricist and it's very difficult to overlook that.

you can make out a word she's singing? there is no enunciation going on here

― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Thursday, 26 January 2012 15:34 (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lex and dc in "not getting it" shocker

Yesterday was really hard going, bailed early and still have around 10 to hear

The tyler, ema and destroyer are kind of non-descript, don't mind any of them, will never hear any of them again

i can't get thru the EMA album but "california" is amazing

i think i saw somewhere someone call it the "anti-'all my friends'" which is pretty perfect

i wonder if maybe i'd started individual threads for k michelle's "for my cinderellas" or tiffany evans' "won't find me" or ariana harris' "city slicka" or teedra moses' "another luvr" then maybe we'd have had some better under-the-radar (ie non-beyoncé) r&b on this list siiiiiiigh

"Novacane" is a song I like when I hear it but can't be bothered to track down and listen to on my own.

i like that still frame
looks like klaus nomi in the smoke

The beat is so smooth and the flat-effect vocal really cements the story of the song.

― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Thursday, January 26, 2012 10:46 AM (36 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this

all of those songs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> frank ocean obviously

"novacane" sounded great on the radio too

i didn't vote for "novacane" but i dig it

i mean even way-past-her-prime MJB had several better jams on her album than this. "mr wrong"! or anthony david's "god said" which was as powerful a ~statement~ as was made in r&b last year

frank ocean would be alright if instrumental, he sounds like he's in an attic and can't get down again and also maybe a bit in the early stages of constipation

better than his other record though. all 4 records today inoffensive

EMA is so, so bad and unnecessary. why would you need that when you have like... the mellow parts of Sonic Youth songs?

glancing over my EOY list now. literally nearly 100 r&b songs i'd give the time of day before anything by f.ocean

the weeknd better not fucking place anywhere

lol good luck with that lex

I don't even really care about The Weeknd (maybe heard 1 song?) but I fully expect to see them pop up on this list

Yeah, I don't dislike Novacane enough to complain about it. It's nice enough, don't go out of my way to listen to it.

It's basically....7/10 for me. Nowhere near amazing enough that I'd put it on my tracks ballot but I understand why people enjoy it and don't begrudge it placing.