that was just for you.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 17:54 (twelve years ago) link
you can hide beside me, play your video games;and I won't tell no-one your name
― bernard snowy, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 18:09 (twelve years ago) link
Can't tell if this NYT piece is meant to be a review of the album or not but if so then he might want to try discussing the music for more than a couple of paragraphs, fun though talking about memes and quoting Brian Williams doubtless is.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/29/arts/music/born-to-die-lana-del-reys-debut-album.html?pagewanted=1&_r=2&seid=auto&smid=tw-nytimesarts
― Meme Rogers (DL), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 18:19 (twelve years ago) link
music writers not writing about the music at hand is such a bugbear of mine. tons of em do this ;_;
caramanica, as i said on twitter, is the dude who gifted us a PRRs profile piece in the NYT. RIP music journalism
― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 18:27 (twelve years ago) link
IT’S already difficult to remember Lana Del Rey, but let’s try.
OH RITE WHO? LANA DEL WHO, YOU SAY?
― fauxmarc, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 18:31 (twelve years ago) link
why do people keep calling her "gangsta"?
― m0stlyClean, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 18:48 (twelve years ago) link
adjective performed well in the focus groups
― iatee, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 18:48 (twelve years ago) link
her producer also produced this http://t.co/MZykcyLW
― I Love Pedantry (D-40), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 18:49 (twelve years ago) link
Nice production.
xp She called herself the "gangsta Nancy Sinatra" despite being considerably less "gangsta" than Nancy Sinatra.
― Meme Rogers (DL), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 18:52 (twelve years ago) link
that's all it takes?okay, i'm the "gangsta david byrne".did she rob a bank? shoot somebody? does she sell drugs? own a gun? do words have no meaning? wtf?
― m0stlyClean, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 19:31 (twelve years ago) link
it's all contextual, like within her social group of people in the connecticut suburbs, she was the gangsta
― iatee, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 19:32 (twelve years ago) link
Translation: "I enjoy both the music of Nancy Sinatra and hip hop and I thought this would be a cute, quotable phrase. I regret to say I have never actually committed a felony and apologise for any confusion."
― Meme Rogers (DL), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 19:36 (twelve years ago) link
okay, i guess those both kind of make sense, but why do other people use that?
also, yeah, calling yourself the "gangsta nancy sinatra" is like calling yourself the "jewish woody allen"...
― m0stlyClean, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 19:41 (twelve years ago) link
tbf that was more a piece of fiction than journalism
― buzza, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 19:44 (twelve years ago) link
i want a buzza profile in the nyt tbh
― markers, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 19:45 (twelve years ago) link
how many times in this thread has the phrase "most photographed barn in america" been used
― the "intenterface" (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 19:46 (twelve years ago) link
where was it that she called herself "gangsta Nancy sinatra" again? wasn't it on some Facebook page? could it be possible that she herself had nothing to do with that tagline?
― uncle acid and the absquatulators (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 19:46 (twelve years ago) link
she has it etched on her gun
― iatee, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 19:47 (twelve years ago) link
What I find disingenuous about the NYT "review" is that like most US critics he's made up his mind to bury her but he holds the likes of HRO at arm's length as if he's not basically saying the same thing. I'd respect him a lot more if he included himself in the tally of hypocrites in the last paragraph.
― Meme Rogers (DL), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 19:49 (twelve years ago) link
"it's all contextual, like within her social group of people in the connecticut suburbs, she was the gangsta"
OMG, so was i!
― scott seward, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 19:54 (twelve years ago) link
nancy sinatra kinda lost some gangsta cred after she started hanging out with morrissey. despite his skinhead affiliations.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 19:55 (twelve years ago) link
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step 2 - spend the next 5 yrs in name negotiations w/ attysstep 3 - profit
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 19:58 (twelve years ago) link
Scotti La Rue - Born To Cry
― scott seward, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 19:59 (twelve years ago) link
she's from lake placid, ny, but please continue.
― m white btw (get bent), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 20:15 (twelve years ago) link
my aunt and uncle live in tupper lake! we are practically family. my aunt was a pretty gangsta paddle tennis player in her day.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 20:16 (twelve years ago) link
i haven't spent much time in northern new york state. it's practically canada to me. my NYS is the hudson valley, woodstock, and the southern tier.
― m white btw (get bent), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 20:18 (twelve years ago) link
she went to a prep school in CT, the Kent School.
― buzza, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 20:28 (twelve years ago) link
lmao i love that ppl know her entire biography & can post about it
― I Love Pedantry (D-40), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 20:43 (twelve years ago) link
"her 7th grade spanish teacher was ms. fernandez"
, ms. fernandez was known as the 'gangsta' professor at the kent school'
― iatee, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 20:44 (twelve years ago) link
"ms fernandez was not her real name; her government name was carol snipes but her 9 months in guatemala in 1987 inspired her to embrace a new moniker and a new life. ms murphy-fernandez was not a native speaker."
― La Lechera, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 20:46 (twelve years ago) link
oops i failed that joke by not changing murphy to snipesoh well
"how many times in this thread has the phrase "most photographed barn in america" been used"
none but it was obliquely reference in an article posted upthread.
― akm, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 20:48 (twelve years ago) link
We're the most photographed barn in america (Whoa-oh!)We're the most photographed barn in america (Whoa-oh!)Everybody live for the music,Video gaaaaaames
― You got to ro-o-oll me and call me the tumblr whites (Phil D.), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 20:50 (twelve years ago) link
thats gangsta
― uncle acid and the absquatulators (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 21:26 (twelve years ago) link
sans brian william reference, this is basically my response to every music review ever.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 21:27 (twelve years ago) link
setting aside the redundancy of "gangsta nancy sinatra" (idk maybe she should've gone with the gangsta lesley gore), the phrase makes sense in the context of hearing the entire album.
when I say "gangsta" I'm thinking in macro-genre terms here. not only gangsta but gangster too (i.e. all 3 scarfaces). a pop culture icon celebrating the pursuit of status, power, and money, with an undercurrent of existential sadness - hurtling towards doom, prison or the grave. dark side of the american dream stuff.
she's not toting a gun, but LDR is shamelessly obsessed with fame and status and power and money and kicks, as openly avaricious as any scarface, but with the same noirish tone that acknowledges where the fast times will end up - heartbreak, solitude, addiction, death. she's exploiting a femme mirror of gangsterism where her gun is her body, and she will use her talents, natural or un, to get what she wants, surrendering to suffer in whatever psychic trap that path leads her to. and that's not me doing the NYT thing and reading extramusical cues, this is what she puts out there lyrically.
money is the reason we exist / everybody knows it / it's a fact / kiss kiss
plus she does in fact utter the words "how do ya like me now?"
as I said above, when this stance is implicit it works really well for her, but when it's explicit the material falls flat. frustrating cause you can see the target that was being shot at, I kind of wish she had nailed it.
― the star of many snuff films (Edward III), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 21:29 (twelve years ago) link
that line is so so bad
― iatee, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 21:30 (twelve years ago) link
there are so many bad lines on this album
― the star of many snuff films (Edward III), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 21:32 (twelve years ago) link
it is hard to imagine a line worse than that line
― iatee, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 21:33 (twelve years ago) link
there's a potentially unique and interesting vision at play here, but the aesthetic chops required to pull it off are not present
xps o gimme a minute
― the star of many snuff films (Edward III), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 21:34 (twelve years ago) link
ha you can sing that to the "heaven is a place on Earth" part of the chorus to "Video Games"
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 21:35 (twelve years ago) link
how bout this
carmen carmenstaying up til mornin'only 17 but she walks the streets so mean
it's alarming trulyhow disarming we can beeating soft ice creamconey island queen
― the star of many snuff films (Edward III), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 21:39 (twelve years ago) link
only 17 but she walks the streets so mean, I mean, c'mon
― the star of many snuff films (Edward III), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 21:40 (twelve years ago) link
think that's a lou reed lyric tbh
― omar little, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 21:42 (twelve years ago) link
All the colored girlsThe colored girls singVideo gaaaaaames
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 21:43 (twelve years ago) link
lol
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 21:44 (twelve years ago) link
'money is the reason we exist / everybody knows it / it's a fact / kiss kiss"
this reminds me of the Countess' song "money can't buy you class" from real housewives of NYC
― akm, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 21:45 (twelve years ago) link
ladies and gentlemen, this is the countess
elegance is learnedlearned my friendvideo gaaaaaames
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 21:46 (twelve years ago) link