ILM'S TOP 77 TRACKS of 2011 (Los resultados!)

Jamie OTM

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Or using it in a way that you don't approve of. If I make a track by hitting a de-tuned piano with a brick, that isn't me displaying contempt for the piano as an instrument, it's me using it in a way you don't.

As one of the board's biggest industrial heads, I do not buy that argument.

I accept that there's an aesthetic here that I don't like, but that aesthetic is not the one that everyone likes to ascribe to me. I like a ton of music with screamed/distorted vocals; I don't think this Fucked Up song works in the slightest. You have a dude shouting in an intelligible monotone that has no musical relation to the music underneath him with a level of aggression wholly out of step with the character of the music and mixed so low that half the power of his shouting isn't even present; at that point, why even bother screaming? What's he adding to the song?

I absolutely understand the mad love, and would have voted for this if I'd heard it before (10 minutes ago). So much action going on under the vocals, it puts me into the same sort of trance as Omni Trio in their heyday. Take me up.

http://i.imgur.com/F1RNH.jpg

31 - SEANY MAC "One of Those Days (Organ Mix)" (288 Points, 7 Votes, 2 First-Place Votes)
P&J - DNP
Pitchfork - DNP

http://youtu.be/03j7VD5Hw_U

This guy is hard to find photos of, especially when there are currently 4 working artists known as Seany Mac. Also, this is from 2009...but whatevs.

why even bother screaming? What's he adding to the song?

But this approach acts as if that hasn't been the way he's been singing for countless albums, EPs, and 7" singles at this point. Thats his thing. The interesting evolution with FU, imho, is how the backing has evolved from hardcore punk singles to sprawling epics to this poppy concept album with Damian's voice the connecting link. It makes way more sense w/in the context of the band's larger career I think.

the Friday Rapper is quite a good stage name

xp Yeah, the beat goes so hard and RLR sings so beautifully, but still everything fits together. Some parallels with the Fucked Up song in a way.

better than Pato (apologies KBP)

But this approach acts as if that hasn't been the way he's been singing for countless albums, EPs, and 7" singles at this point. Thats his thing. The interesting evolution with FU, imho, is how the backing has evolved from hardcore punk singles to sprawling epics to this poppy concept album with Damian's voice the connecting link. It makes way more sense w/in the context of the band's larger career I think.

That kind of reinforces my opinion that it's a failure as a standalone song, frankly; needing to understand a band's entire career to enjoy a song is a pretty high barrier to entry.

ah i got wind of this in the voting thread
vocals are perfect

amazing track. so glad it placed. i didn't even know about it until i had already submitted a ballot!

I think we were discussing whether the Seany Mac song wd place or not in outloud last night

Diggin this, hadn't heard it before. I have an enormous weak spot for this bassline type stuff, though.

I considered voting for "One Of These Days" but cut it at the last minute because it felt unfair to what I was actually listening to this year

'we were discussing' = rev & brainwasher & maybe EZ, whilst me & Turrican are typing "C'mown!" intermittently

xp to myself

Yeah, but DJP, lots of people have said they have enjoyed the song on first listen. I'd see the statement you're responding to more akin to the discussion about Kate Bush's career than what you're saying.

(Also, you don't have to reiterate that you like screaming vocals, but what I was responding to was your very limiting list of when you think they work.)

Jeez, I'm not even a Fucked Up fan, why am I trying to defend this so much?

Admittedly I hate a lot of late-'90s/2000s punk/hardcore singing styles - just hate the snotty, bratty Blink 182-ish intonation, but I def don't hate the FU style, and I don't really understand what DJP is saying about Damian's vocal being weak or buried or even off-tune...? That opening salvo of a line: "Sun rises above the factory but the rays don’t make it to the street" has such great delivery in itself - and the music goes really well with that image too; cF: the searing sunray guitars on the breakdown etc..

Don't quite share the ILM mad love for Seany Mac but I'm happy to see it here.

Really loving the last two songs; wish I would have heard them before I voted!

needing to understand a band's entire career to enjoy a song is a pretty high barrier to entry.

Eh, thats not the point I was trying to make, but I'm distracted by about four different things right now so thats my fault. I think his voice is just fine and in no way disrespectful to his instrument.

OMG this seany mac track is amazing, i'd never even heard of it before! omg that house piano, it's kind of like the sweet summer sister of "full attention"

i got fussed at for this before but the fucked up dude sounds like the mighty mighty bosstones guy. which may be while people don't like his voice.

yeah seany mac was number one... me and alex in mtl were freaking out over it after it popped up in that physical therapy mix -- it's really, intensely amazing

'we were discussing' = rev & brainwasher & maybe EZ, whilst me & Turrican are typing "C'mown!" intermittently

Mainly Rev & brainwasher, with me nodding sagely while you two drove Rev & brainwasher nuts.

xpost to D.A.M.

Damn, this Seany Mac song is nice!

yes, love the seany mac track

I don't think it matters if a track is not from 2011 since it is relatively unknown and there is a groundswell of support for it

smh at none of you telling me about it j0rdan/alex/brainwasher

off tune = the monotone of Damian's vocals functions as a drone within the song and manages to maintain a certain consistency throughout it (except for when the girl starts singing; the drone reveals itself in its absence)

Damian isn't Lou Reed (let alone Lennon or Dylan); he is John Cale

tbf there was a thread Where do I find more music as joyous as One of Those Days (Organ Mix) by Seany Mac? (N.B. ILM Dance Aficionados)

I guess I can't be a one-man Lamb street team ;_;

― Chaka Collar, lemme rock you (DJP), Tuesday, January 24, 2012 5:08 PM (Yesterday)

the good news is theres 2 of us. the bad news is that i am the other one and have only placed one song so far.

Doh! Lamb and 2NE1 falling because I didn't vote. Shame, shame, shame on me.

Surprisingly low placing for Fucked Up, I thought. I'm in the 'great in short bursts - quickly becomes wearing over the length of a long, long album' camp, have to say. "QoH" such a good track though - which was my introduction to the band, having never heard of them before.

what was your one track that placed jjj?

tbf there was a thread Where do I find more music as joyous as One of Those Days (Organ Mix) by Seany Mac? (N.B. ILM Dance Aficionados)

i would probably have seen it if it had popped up in a rolling thread

That was great. I'd never heard this before either.

Yeah, but DJP, lots of people have said they have enjoyed the song on first listen. I'd see the statement you're responding to more akin to the discussion about Kate Bush's career than what you're saying.

I think the conversation about Kate Bush's career with respect to her song also points to a weakness in the song's ability to connect with people outside of her fanbase, actually; I just happen to be on the outskirts of Kate Bush fandom so I don't really care.

Admittedly I hate a lot of late-'90s/2000s punk/hardcore singing styles - just hate the snotty, bratty Blink 182-ish intonation, but I def don't hate the FU style, and I don't really understand what DJP is saying about Damian's vocal being weak or buried or even off-tune...?

Weak and buried I can buy a difference of opinion but dude is hitting a consistent monotone that rides a tritone above the root of the main key of the song; it is literally impossible for him to be more dissonant on that song.

my one track so far was the kate bush song

Here's another Lamb stan. "Butterfly Effect" still has legs.

yeaaaaaaaa seany mac fucking rules.

reposted for DJP's last point to emil.y:

off tune = the monotone of Damian's vocals functions as a drone within the song and manages to maintain a certain consistency throughout it (except for when the girl starts singing; the drone reveals itself in its absence)

Damian isn't Lou Reed (let alone Lennon or Dylan); he is John Cale

― uncle acid and the absquatulators (Drugs A. Money)

Comparing him to Cale is being over generous, but I get what you're aiming at.

Yeah, was gonna say, if Fucked Up ever write a song to equal 'Paris 1919', give me a call.

i don't even

http://i.imgur.com/m0SsH.jpg

30 - BIG K.R.I.T. ft. 2 CHAINZ, 8BALL & MJG "Money on the Floor" (290 Points, 10 Votes)
P&J - 604
Pitchfork - DNP

http://youtu.be/8CYkzgAu8PQ

haha I had sorted the Spotify Tracks list by artist and didn't even notice when "Queen of Hearts" stopped and "Under My Nose" started; same key, same tempo, same feel...

I get the sense that listening to this album must be like getting pummeled by candy canes.

yeah the people I'm agreeing with are missing my point ;_;

damn, really surprised to see krit place so high

song is fucking massive, just incredibly lush and deep production

and goon influence finally gets the chance to reassert itself xp

lol, Drugs, I was being flippant.