what happens if SOPA passes?

^^^

I'm bummed that this is, more than likely, also going to signal the death knell for legit blogs sharing perfectly legal music.

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i heard something about the person who uploaded the file would be able to access it?

also rev, dont you have backups of your original music on your computer you could just put somewhere else?

i'd imagine it would suck if he's got blog posts/links etc going to several years worth of material either way.

hope this doesn't put an end to the blogs sharing rarer albums, but then I'm intrigued by the idea of music becoming rarer again... still free, but something you'd have to actually have to put a little time into hunting down. and perhaps music blogs might become more oriented around writing/reviewing again, serving as guides for torrent searches elsewhere

everything old will soon be old again

flopson: of course, but that's not the point

hard drives fail bro

it would be sad if all the filesharing sites went away -- i'm not a saint when it comes to downloading, but I'd say that over the years, probably 80% of what I've grabbed via rapidshare/mediafire/etc has been bootlegs or out of print stuff. guess i'd have to go back to trading cd-rs via snail mail?

^^

tylerw otm, thats pretty much how I am at this point

that really has been the magic of the filesharing era for me -- all of those bootlegs, things that will never be officially released, all just a download away. when i think of the huge amounts of $$ I spent in the 90s on physical bootlegs ...

really don't think all the filesharing sites will go away, the big ones might but cult blogs that upload bootlegs/oop will just put their stuff on smaller, more discreet ones.

yeah i guess that is what i'll do w/ my blog? hope mediafire doesn't disappear, that really seems like the most user-friendly one by far.

hey did anyone ever respond to my query re: file expiry on MegaUpload

when i think of the huge amounts of $$ I spent in the 90s on physical bootlegs ...

^ this. The first few bootlegs I bought (on vinyl!) were relatively cheap, but in the CD era it was common to see single-disc boots go for $40-$75. This was all pre-CD-R, btw.

yeah, when i got into it in the mid 90s, you'd see stuff in stores and think "i may never have the chance to get this ever again i need to buy it NOW". which is funny in this day & age.

^^^

Yep. I want to go back and smack my college freshman self and tell him that, no, you don't need to buy those $35 Nirvana Outcesticide boots. Just wait 6 years and you can download it all for free!

As an aside, it's interesting how most of the discussion of this bill among people I know tends to revolve around music, when I'd guess a lot of the impetus for it is really movies and streaming tv shows.

yeah, aside from my music geek friends, most people i know are saying "oh no, no more free movies and shows!"
which is funny, i've never downloaded a movie or a tv show...

Well, sports for the non-cable-having set is a big thing, I'd guess

hey is there a story that could basically give me an idea of where SOPA/PIPA stands right at this moment in terms of its progress (or lack thereof)?

http://www.pcworld.com/article/248525/sopa_pipa_stalled_meet_the_open_act.html

(first thing I could find)

alex howard had a nice piece at o'reilly the other day, will try to find it for u

first filesonic and now fileserve have disabled all file sharing capabilities...

https://p.twimg.com/Aj0cNbLCMAAkSlp.jpg

yeah i guess that is what i'll do w/ my blog? hope mediafire doesn't disappear, that really seems like the most user-friendly one by far.

― tylerw, Monday, January 23, 2012 10:59 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Tyler if you go speakeasy plz plz send me the secret door knock. (Pro tip, the feds know 'shave and a haircut')

So I guess the reason MF and RS are still running is b/c they only allow smaller file sizes?

secret door knock will be "marquee moon"'s opening drum fill fyi

(thanks orgasm explosion to your facehole!)

lol @ that Michael Jackson image - another thing that's been so messed up about this legislation is the enormous penalties they're trying to impose on everything. reminds me of the lawsuits the RIAA would impose on people who downloaded 20-30 MP3s where they'd seek 6-figures, arguing that "well, let's assume this person uploaded it 10 times, and then each of those people uploaded it 10 times, and we lost $15 on a sale to each one of those people, so you owe us half a million bucks".

if a person is found guilty of downloading a movie or an album illegally, shouldn't the penalty be more akin to shoplifting? do they really believe that a good 40% of the country deserves to be in jail?

A jail with an AWESOME digital music collection.

While I'm on board with you wrt to unreasonable punishment not matching the crime, I gotta jump back off when you try to legitimize it with the "everyone does it" argument.

this is how we're all gonna be hearing the next kanye record guys
http://www.dvdbeaver.com/comparisons/comparisons/s/shawshankredemption/shawshank_se_us5.jpg

I mean in that respect it's kind of like speeding, everyone does it and it should be punished - what I'm saying is if you're talking about something as widespread as filesharing perhaps you shouldn't be going for jail sentences?

Well, yeah, five years in jail to watch an episode of Arrested Development is pretty insane. But, as is kinda the crux of the whole argument here, at some point you need to punish someone for making the content available illegally.

I don't think you can get punished criminally for downloading content at this point, only for making it available.

*THIS IS NOT LEGAL ADVICE*

How much does Netflix/iTunes charge to dl an episode? That's a market rate.

I don't think you can get punished criminally for downloading content at this point, only for making it available.

I understand this, I'm just saying that a lot of the talk around the people behind these bills tries to scare people into thinking this isn't the case at all and that, yes, you can do JAIL TIME for downloading one movie.

yeah no one's ever been punished for downloading music/movies/etc, only for sharing it.

it's a pretty important distinction thats allowed the rapidshare/megaupload sites to become so popular as a filesharing medium, because you're essentially passing the liability from yourself to the hosting site when you share files through those. it's much safer than bittorrent.

Oh yeah, totally, I get that. But that isn't what the RIAA and MPAA want you to believe. I mean, remember those pre-trailer commercials at movies that showed the kid downloading one file and equating it to stealing a car?

well, if the car is a Kia

I don't think you can get punished criminally for downloading content at this point, only for making it available.

― frogBaSeball (Hurting 2), maandag 23 januari 2012 19:32 (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

This is still Dutch law btw. Downloading is legal, uploading is illegal. When torrenting one does both obv. Secretary of Justice is trying to make downloading illegal too though

that a free DL can be thought of as equivalent to a lost sale is crazy logic

LOL

http://kotaku.com/5878245/jailed-megaupload-king-is-still-the-world-no-1-in-modern-warfare-3

Oh yeah, totally, I get that. But that isn't what the RIAA and MPAA want you to believe. I mean, remember those pre-trailer commercials at movies that showed the kid downloading one file and equating it to stealing a car?

exactly - i think people have only been sued/prosecuted for uploading thus far, but doesn't this bill or even the letter of the law before this state that d/ling was also heavily punishable? but yeah - "YOU WOULDN'T STEAL A CAR" sticks out as one of the worst ad campaigns of the last 20 years (since "home taping is killing music", at leat)

hmm http://geeks.thedailywh.at/2012/01/23/mediafire-comments-on-megaupload-situation-of-the-day/