yeah, was gonna say "murky underwater cave level in a Playstation game" isn't a bad description of why I like it: it's immersive but alienating.
― rob, Friday, 20 January 2012 17:41 (twelve years ago) link
Fatima Al Qadiri's 'How Can I Resist U' is a love letter to London in general and Dubstep (before it wobbled) in particular. "Lenden" as it's known has become a historic site of pilgrimage for wealthy Arabs seeking the forbidden fruits of sex, drugs and alcohol.
btw did y'all know that osama bin laden's niece is a dalston hipster?
― tinie tempurah (lex pretend), Friday, 20 January 2012 17:42 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah it's just that, I dunno, if I'm going to sit down and listen to something at home I like it to bring a bit more to the table.
― Matt DC, Friday, 20 January 2012 17:44 (twelve years ago) link
(xpost)
I think it's telling and great that you used playstation and not nintendo - this is prob the first video-game influenced music I've heard that doesn't fall into the rabbit hole of chip tunes + chrono trigger midis
― I am that young sis, the beacon, a yardstick (dayo), Friday, 20 January 2012 17:45 (twelve years ago) link
but above all her sense of melody is really refined and exquisite - like hte first time my friend sent me a youtube, I was like, that was p good, but within 5 minutes I went back to the youtube and played it again, and again, and again
like, I didn't expect myself to be taken in by such a simple sound palette (like I said above) but I was! she has a really good ear
― I am that young sis, the beacon, a yardstick (dayo), Friday, 20 January 2012 17:47 (twelve years ago) link
i wonder what it says that i love this kind of music but have never played video games
― tinie tempurah (lex pretend), Friday, 20 January 2012 17:47 (twelve years ago) link
You approach it without baggage - see also Rustie, Ikonika etc. I find those connotations a bit problematic really.
― Matt DC, Friday, 20 January 2012 17:49 (twelve years ago) link
why problematic?
― I am that young sis, the beacon, a yardstick (dayo), Friday, 20 January 2012 17:51 (twelve years ago) link
like the whole DIS/nguzunguzu visual aesthetic so far has been really corny maya 3d renderings circa 1998 reappropriated for hipster use, don't see why appropriating the sound of that is off limits
― I am that young sis, the beacon, a yardstick (dayo), Friday, 20 January 2012 17:53 (twelve years ago) link
i guess the "sounds like a videogame soundtrack" works a bit like how the Ghost Box aesthetic mines sounds that were buried in your subconscious in your childhood. I can understand being wary of music that draws on childhood nostalgia for its power, but i don't think that's really happening here. but i'm 33 so this doesn't really sound like the games i played as a kid. so while i got your playstation comment, i didn't really think "this sounds like playstation" when i first heard this.
― rob, Friday, 20 January 2012 18:00 (twelve years ago) link
It's problematic for me for the same reason I wouldn't put on an orchestral film soundtrack when I could listen to a symphony, it just feels kind of naff. Also when I play video games I usually turn the sound down and put other music on.
Also (and I know this is a bit unfair on Al Qadiri since she obviously knows what she's doing with her source material better than most of these losers) I'm getting a bit of a naff 90s hippie smoking compilation vibe from the whole aesthetic. Possibly the album art isn't helping here.
― Matt DC, Friday, 20 January 2012 18:03 (twelve years ago) link
that could be a really good poll, actually, to see how many film soundtracks ILM owns
― I am that young sis, the beacon, a yardstick (dayo), Friday, 20 January 2012 18:06 (twelve years ago) link
idk if I would call it 90s hippie smoking compilation, more like purposeful hipster 'I don't care' transposed onto computers
http://i.imgur.com/S6V44.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/uNxj6.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/e3MhE.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/dm5Ex.jpg
― I am that young sis, the beacon, a yardstick (dayo), Friday, 20 January 2012 18:08 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_pFkO9Qep8
maybe this aesthetic is 'in' right now
― I am that young sis, the beacon, a yardstick (dayo), Friday, 20 January 2012 18:09 (twelve years ago) link
heh i didnt realize she had her album release party at the new museum, which, of course
― max, Friday, 20 January 2012 18:11 (twelve years ago) link
is that the one on the bowery?
― I am that young sis, the beacon, a yardstick (dayo), Friday, 20 January 2012 18:14 (twelve years ago) link
which, yeah, of course
it's worth noting that FAQ has written the global.wav column for DIS for a couple years
― The Reverend, Saturday, 21 January 2012 01:14 (twelve years ago) link
http://dismagazine.com/blog/global-wav/
― The Reverend, Saturday, 21 January 2012 01:18 (twelve years ago) link
Genre-Specfic Xperience remix package set for release on March 27, which will include reworks from Kingdom, Girl Unit, Ikonika, DJ Rashad, and more.
o_o
― The Reverend, Saturday, 21 January 2012 02:05 (twelve years ago) link
:o
― I am that young sis, the beacon, a yardstick (dayo), Saturday, 21 January 2012 02:55 (twelve years ago) link
I approve of this mining of my geeky heritage
― I am that young sis, the beacon, a yardstick (dayo), Saturday, 21 January 2012 02:57 (twelve years ago) link
this "corpcore" remix is pretty wild! not sure if this is part of the release that's coming out on the 27th but very excited to hear the rest of them.
http://soundcloud.com/shockdiamond/fatima-al-qadiri-corpcore
― handy ban (lou), Saturday, 4 February 2012 03:08 (twelve years ago) link
what happened to
― hologram ned raggett (The Reverend), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 02:34 (twelve years ago) link
ikr?
― dayo, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 10:53 (twelve years ago) link
Fatima Al Qadiri @FatimaAlQadiri@[me] yup, may 22 is the release date!
okay dennnnn
― hologram ned raggett (The Reverend), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 15:55 (twelve years ago) link
http://soundcloud.com/unouno/fatima-al-qadiri-corpcore-kingdom
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:35 (twelve years ago) link
REMIQSIS. I LIKE THE REMIQSIS.
― Dixie Narco Martenot (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Thursday, 24 May 2012 18:35 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, it's a pretty solid collection
― Number None, Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:39 (twelve years ago) link
Wish I still had all my Bryce 3D turquoise iMac .jpegs.
― errant flynn, Friday, 25 May 2012 03:33 (twelve years ago) link
Apparently the next Fade to Mind release will be by Fatima al Qadiri?
― The Reverend, Sunday, 23 September 2012 21:42 (eleven years ago) link
!
― barthes simpson, Sunday, 23 September 2012 23:14 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.thefader.com/2012/10/03/stream-fatima-al-qadiri-ghost-raid/
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 19:10 (eleven years ago) link
I wish I hadn't read the blurb : (
― barthes simpson, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 19:13 (eleven years ago) link
ameliorative coos
― fauxmarc, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link
that's some "synth gurgles" shit
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 19:31 (eleven years ago) link
Oh, looking forward to this. Only thing I could say that about on Fade to Mind.
― MikoMcha, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 21:56 (eleven years ago) link
Nodding my head @ that post.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 22:05 (eleven years ago) link
:/
those nguzu/mikeq/rizzla eps are 100% classics
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 22:38 (eleven years ago) link
Didn't know Mike Q had a release, will check this out!
― MikoMcha, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 22:51 (eleven years ago) link
lol some people seem to go out of their way to state how much they don't like fade to mind
― fauxmarc, Thursday, 4 October 2012 01:53 (eleven years ago) link
really good interview with her in the fader
http://www.thefader.com/2012/11/12/interview-fatima-al-qadiri/
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 05:33 (eleven years ago) link
she is awesome
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 08:26 (eleven years ago) link
I wanted to get more profesh.
<3
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 13 November 2012 14:33 (eleven years ago) link
Does the Desert Strike EP count for 'albums' in the EoY poll?
Also, there wasn't any stuff out as Ayshay this year I missed, was there?
― emil.y, Friday, 30 November 2012 01:27 (eleven years ago) link
sure; no
tbh I'm not as impressed with Desert Strike as GSX :/
― these bitches is my sons and i make dad jokes (The Reverend), Friday, 30 November 2012 01:28 (eleven years ago) link
I like it a lot more, but then I never listened to GSX as much because I was too busy listening to 'Warn-U' on repeat when I found out about her.
― emil.y, Friday, 30 November 2012 01:32 (eleven years ago) link
GSX is very much my favorite thing she's done.
― these bitches is my sons and i make dad jokes (The Reverend), Friday, 30 November 2012 01:36 (eleven years ago) link
Fair play, I think she's awesome in general - I guess my favour lies with the less beat-heavy stuff? I dunno, could be talking out of my ass there, I should go back and give it more of a chance now I'm not just rotating the one track.
― emil.y, Friday, 30 November 2012 01:42 (eleven years ago) link
*nods*
― MikoMcha, Monday, 2 March 2015 20:00 (nine years ago) link
I just think there's a difference between Asiatisch, which came bristling with theory (and kind of needs it) and Future Brown, which sounds like fairly straightforward (though disappointingly bland) genre-hopping.
― Minaj moron (Re-Make/Re-Model), Monday, 2 March 2015 20:02 (nine years ago) link
he kind of keeps his work slotted into different academic/musical/conceptual slots, though
there are different approaches to the whole music/theory/story interplay -- artists can have a stated agenda/conceptual project and do work that may or may not fit in that box, but writers often extrapolate trends or philosophies that musicians may or may not care about.
Artists creating stories around their work is one thing, writers positing theory and philosophy about art is another. This is kind of assuming that since an artist has worked in one realm, all of their work can be measured by that rubric which is mixing and matching.
― mh, Monday, 2 March 2015 20:04 (nine years ago) link
sorry, that was an xpost
Yeah, I get that. But was surprised recently to discover that Spaceape was partners with Luciana Parisi. That scene is really tight!
― MikoMcha, Monday, 2 March 2015 20:06 (nine years ago) link
oh word, I have her book
― mh, Monday, 2 March 2015 20:08 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, and she was at Warwick back in the day as well, along with Matt Fuller and Mark Fisher...
― MikoMcha, Monday, 2 March 2015 20:09 (nine years ago) link
Anyway, this kind of mapping is maybe sounding a bit weird now. The point is that I think there are those connections and strong links to accelerationism. It's not so far fetched or unsubstantiated.
― MikoMcha, Monday, 2 March 2015 20:21 (nine years ago) link
i think part of the problem here is that criticizing the art can easily slip into criticizing the critics who like that art if you're not careful
dont know enough about the situation to say whether lex did that or not but ...
― deej loaf (D-40), Monday, 2 March 2015 23:36 (nine years ago) link
do they like that art... or do they like writing about the art?
the rabbit holes
― mh, Monday, 2 March 2015 23:50 (nine years ago) link
The lex peice is more engaged with how the Future Brown album has been received by a certain segment of the pop music press than it is with either the art-conceptual framework (which still gets a fair amount of attention) or the music itself (basically a dismissive footnote). In other words, it's par for the critic's course: "You're all paying attention to the wrong things." The lex has seen the incurious and self-congratulatory interconnections that reduce so much pop of the pop press to the rote chewing of a shared cud and must forevermore fight the power.
That isn't such a bad vantage from which to launch a politically-minded critique, but nor are the qualities that help make Future Brown's art so interesting to dilettante tastemakers bad things in themselves ("from privileged backgrounds, fluent in the promotional use of art-speak"). I don't outright love the album, but nor do I see it as some regrettable exercise in forced exotica and greedy cultural appropriation. However high-minded the framing, the producers are pretty much just making pop music and using vocalists whose work they presumably enjoy to achieve that.
The problem, more than anything else, is that their pop instincts are rather dull. "Vernaculo" and "Talkin' Bands" are excellent, but that's more a product of the vocalist's work than the production, which tends to a tepid glassiness.
― describing a scene in which the Hulk gets a boner (contenderizer), Tuesday, 3 March 2015 03:53 (nine years ago) link
^ BANDZ, lol
To the extent the album works, it does so because it's so entirely dominated by its vocalists. Since nearly every moment is dominated and defined by a different singer or rapper, Future Brown has a lot of moment-to-moment textural appeal. And while the backing tracks aren't all that immediately exciting taken on their own, at their best they at least tend to serve and flatter the vocals. Some, like "MVP" and "Asbestos", fall distinctly flat, and several more seem more like lazy pastiche than the product of a distinct sensibility, but the run from "Bandz" through "Dangerzone" is pretty solid. If, yeah, uninspired.
― describing a scene in which the Hulk gets a boner (contenderizer), Tuesday, 3 March 2015 04:24 (nine years ago) link
OTM. That way lies Armond White.
― Minaj moron (Re-Make/Re-Model), Tuesday, 3 March 2015 09:43 (nine years ago) link
TTM:006 MA NGUZU
https://soundcloud.com/tobago-tracks/ttm006-ma-nguzu
Enjoying this genre-hopping mix of stuff, Meaghan Garvey mentioned it in her Pitchfork review and have only followed it up this week.
― MikoMcha, Thursday, 30 April 2015 05:55 (nine years ago) link
Annoying Fade to Mind producer quote from article "L.A. record label Fade to Mind looks to expand its cultural reach"
http://touch.latimes.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-83234482/
We may have missed some opportunities because we want to control everything,” Rubin said. “Our brand’s really complicated, it’s not just a bunch of boys in hats playing trap music. But we’ve always been influenced by pop music, and if someone came to us to do a Britney record, of course we would try it.”
― curmudgeon, Monday, 4 May 2015 19:11 (nine years ago) link
Elysia Crampton's American Drift is really scratching the itch for me that the Future Brown album failed to.
― boring alt-reality reverend (The Reverend), Tuesday, 22 December 2015 09:37 (eight years ago) link
lol I forgot about lex vs FAQ high-quality stuff
― boring alt-reality reverend (The Reverend), Tuesday, 22 December 2015 10:11 (eight years ago) link
lol yah prime filet mignon for those w/ long memories
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 22 December 2015 12:38 (eight years ago) link
i regret nothing except not doing it to pc music as well due to lack of time/unwillingness to endure their output
― cher guevara (lex pretend), Wednesday, 23 December 2015 09:09 (eight years ago) link
all things considered i think future brown is happily on course to be the turkey of the decade
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 23 December 2015 09:44 (eight years ago) link
yeah that's why i think pc music might have been more worthwhile to go in on
― cher guevara (lex pretend), Wednesday, 23 December 2015 11:25 (eight years ago) link
did anyone write anything on ilm about the fatima al qadiri album, brute? finally listening to it now
― mh, Monday, 15 August 2016 21:27 (seven years ago) link
as far as I can tell it's just completely normal faq instrumental music content with little news clip samples occasionally at the beginnings of tracks, for uh, conceptual reasons?
― mh, Monday, 15 August 2016 21:31 (seven years ago) link
asiatisch was much better
― ANU (sisilafami), Monday, 15 August 2016 22:42 (seven years ago) link
*hits a gong*
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 27 February 2015 18:20 (two years ago) Permalink
classic thread! also, good interview in pitchfork
― the late great, Tuesday, 17 October 2017 05:17 (six years ago) link
critic Isabelia Herrera twweeted her fave 2023 albums on Spotify so far and included Fatima Al Qadiri's Gumar ep
― curmudgeon, Monday, 19 June 2023 14:45 (eleven months ago) link
What I heard of Medieval Femme sounded great tho maybe more to admire than something I'd go to repeatedly.Someone did a video edit of the strikingly eerie 'Malaak' over clips from the Dune remake and it did work all too well.
― nashwan, Monday, 19 June 2023 15:46 (eleven months ago) link