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On that bleak track
See the sun is gone again
Tears were pouring down her face
She was crying and crying
For a girl who died
So many years before

(SO GREAT)

(Also that extended chord on the words "Charlotte Sometimes" with all the ninths and elevenths in it!)

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 2 May 2005 18:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I need to arrange an a capella version of this song.

I remember reading a Cure write-up long ago that was talking about the amazing imagery of Smith's lyrics and quoted as an example "'Come to escape,' he says/And Charlotte sometimes..." I think I went completely postal in ridiculing this writer. I think it's in Ten Imaginary Years somewhere.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 2 May 2005 18:41 (twenty-one years ago)

My favorite is the rendition of "Charlotte Sometimes" on Concert. I picked up the Concert cassette on a bike trip through Europe in 1987, and was forever flipping the tape over. Right at the end of "Charlotte Sometimes", on the flip was the beginning of "All Mine" (a song fragment that haunts me to this day)...which i was continually listening to over and over and over...

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 2 May 2005 18:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I was thinking about compiling a double CD of live tracks as an alternative version of Curiosity.

It would be a great listen, there are lots of superb versions of songs that spring to mind, it could start at '79 and go through to '04.

Anyone interested? Any song suggestions?

― mzui (mzui), Monday, 2 May 2005 19:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm in. There are a few songs I'd suggest but in many cases I don't know the performances they're from...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 2 May 2005 19:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Okay, I'll get a tracklist together....Any more, c'mon peeps, let me abuse my work's facilities here!

― mzui (mzui), Monday, 2 May 2005 19:27 (twenty-one years ago)

"Temptation" is begging to be drowned in Pornography murk. I am loving this to bits.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 2 May 2005 19:37 (twenty-one years ago)

OMG "A Strange Day"!!!!!!!!!!!! This is fucking awesome.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 2 May 2005 20:19 (twenty-one years ago)

"PORNOGRAPHY" OMG

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 2 May 2005 20:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Hehehe.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 2 May 2005 20:28 (twenty-one years ago)

"Temptation Two"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HOW AWESOME!

Half of these demos are like Seventeen Seconds with fangs.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 2 May 2005 20:39 (twenty-one years ago)

And now there's no more surprise and you have to wait.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 2 May 2005 20:40 (twenty-one years ago)

The hilarious thing is that all through "Temptation Two" I was sitting here going, "God, this sounds EXACTLY LIKE another song, but not 'Let's Go To Bed'..." and then I went, "Oh yeah, 'Temptation' from earlier on the CD. Duh."

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 2 May 2005 20:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Hahaha.

And then you started humming "Oh you've got grey eyes, oh you've got green eyes..."

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 2 May 2005 20:48 (twenty-one years ago)

"Airlock" is kind of every stupid idea art students have about incidental film music wrapped up into one horrid little composition. I have no time for it.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 2 May 2005 20:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, but there's giggling.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 2 May 2005 20:50 (twenty-one years ago)

(I like to imagine that the film shows three little dark elves dancing around and murdering Chopin.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 2 May 2005 20:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Meanwhile, Carnage Visors details the slow crawl of a guy getting out of his chair and eventually washing his hands.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 2 May 2005 20:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Carnage Visors is a stroke by stroke aural recreation of a slow, intense bout of sexing!

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 2 May 2005 20:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I would worry about this if Joei heard it and said "I have a headache."

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 2 May 2005 21:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Count me in the alternate Curosity thingy. I was thinking of doing sth similar tracking the evolution of 'Forever' over the years. Although, if I pick one version per tour between 1981 and 2004, it will have to be a double CD and that would maybe be a bit much to take in...

― Baaderonixxxorzh (Fabfunk), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 07:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Good Stuff.

Does anyone have a note (or know where to find a note) of the locations of the Curiosity live tracks, my tape is up the loft.

― mzui (mzui), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 08:35 (twenty-one years ago)

So let's get the track list started! This should def. include 'All I wanna do is kill her', which seems lost since it didn't appear on the Porn reissue. Although if we get all nerdy about it, one could argue that 'All Mine' and 'All I wanna do...' are improvised variations on a same theme. Or are they? Is 'All Mine' a version of 'Forever' or is it an altogether different beast? The public has the right to know!

And now that I think of it, what happened to 'Ariel'?

― Baaderonixxxorzh (Fabfunk), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 09:11 (twenty-one years ago)

'AM' the early version of In Your House - Birmingham '79

Lament - Bath or Brighton 83 (whichever is better)

I Dig You + Cult Hero (with Frank on vocals) Barfly London March 04

I Hate Rock & Roll (improv based on Three if memory serves) Holland 81

Happy Birthday Simon/Three/All Mine Belgium 81

― mzui (mzui), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 09:27 (twenty-one years ago)

The Holy Hour - Werchter Festival 81

― mzui (mzui), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 09:29 (twenty-one years ago)

All I have To Do is Kill Her - another 'Three' Improv Paris 82

― mzui (mzui), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 09:30 (twenty-one years ago)

holy shit, I ordered all three from DeepDiscount CDs on Thursday and they arrived here on Monday!

I was really on the fence about buying "Seventeen Seconds" but am very glad. The remastering alone makes these discs worthy. I listened to the Cure prior to "Head On the Door" only on cassette, and in that situation almost exclusively through crappy Walkman headphones. Listening now through a real stereo (and even on my computer's Altec's) is eye opening. AWESOME.

My complaint is that I really don't see the point of the live tracks included...I'd much, much, much rather just have a reissue of all-live stuff.

FYI, I remember searching and searching and FINALLY finding a "Concert" import CD in college and selling a textbook to go buy it.

― don weiner, Tuesday, 3 May 2005 11:09 (twenty-one years ago)

curiosity

heroin face 4 dec 77 the rocket crawley
boys dont cry 27 may 78 chestnut studio frensham
subway song oct 79 nottingham
at night 9 june 80 french radio
in your house 15 jan 80 holland
the drowning man aug 81 australia or NZ
other voices 81 "somewhere else'
the funeral party nov 81 'somewhere'
all mine 1 may 82 london
forever 15 may 84 paris

― ronny longjohns (ronny longjohns), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 14:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Thank you very much, that is most helpful.

Now, one question, do I put any Disintegration tracks on this comp, if so which?

― mzui (mzui), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 17:59 (twenty-one years ago)

"Harold And Joe" - London 1991 (rare)
"Disintegration" - Chicago 2-25-2000
the Entreat version of "Prayers For Rain"
"Foxy Lady" - Manchester 1992

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 18:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, that would do for a start...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 18:05 (twenty-one years ago)

They played Foxy Lady in 1992??

"Happy the Man" Paris, 1984
"Away (Cut)" London Town and Country, 1991 (actually all the early Wish songs on this are worth it)
"Letter to Elise" MTV Unplugged, 1991

― Baaderonixxxorzh (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 07:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Can do most of the above, there's probably a better quality 'Happy The Man' from Washington 84, tracklist for the first CD coming soon (it's a triple!)

― mzui (mzui), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 07:35 (twenty-one years ago)

A Strange Day never sounded better. I listened to Pornography three times right through before I even thought about the extras disk.

I didn't think it was possible for me to love this album more, but I do.

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 13:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Mzui, you are a glorious man. :-)

Anyone want to design a cover?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 13:45 (twenty-one years ago)

It should be a cheap photocopy a la "Concert"

― Baaderonixxxorzh (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 14:02 (twenty-one years ago)

:-(

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 14:03 (twenty-one years ago)

But that's a good thing! Anyway, I'm impatient to see the tracklist of this and shall soon start working on my Forever live compilation...

― Baaderonixxxorzh (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 14:08 (twenty-one years ago)

In that case shall I bother putting in any versions of Forever, I had intended to include at least one, a freakout version with Hartley's keyboards!

― mzui (mzui), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 15:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Properly printed full colour artwork will be included.
This is going to take a little while to collate folks so be patient, but the first CD tracklist should be along in a day or two.

― mzui (mzui), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 15:19 (twenty-one years ago)

No Curiosity is complete without a version of Forever! (plus who knows when I'll get around doing this...)

― Baaderonixxxorzh (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I still want the Curiosity version of "Forever" on an official CD release.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:24 (twenty-one years ago)

It was recorded in 1984 = look for it as a bonus with either The Top or Concert

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:28 (twenty-one years ago)

And what about 'Ariel'?

― Baaderonixxxorzh (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Didn't they do "A Japanese Dream" on The Kissing Tour? I need a live version of that.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:43 (twenty-one years ago)

is the "studio version" of forever on the bootleg Dr. Robert's Surgery really a studio version? it sounds terrible!

― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Heheh, I had that bootleg for a while. Ripped the few tracks I needed from it and sent it on.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Okay I'll keep the version of Forever in there, thanks.

*Didn't they do "A Japanese Dream" on The Kissing Tour? I need a live version of that.*

There's a good version of A Japanese Dream from a BBC broadcast in Birmingham 87. What other Kiss Me tracks are we interested in?

At the moment I'm digging out 84/Top-era stuff, got lovely versions of The Wailing Wall, The Empty World and Caterpillar lined up, oh and Secrets!

Also I found an early version of Charlotte Sometimes too that I'd totally forgotten about, the second time played live according to Bob.

Please keep the suggestions coming, they are really helpful.

No idea about Ariel, will check up if they played it ever.

― mzui (mzui), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 18:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Nope, only the Kid Jensen session version, I could include that.

― mzui (mzui), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 19:04 (twenty-one years ago)

We need to keep an eye out for tracks that they rarely ever play like "The 13th" and "The Snakepit".

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 19:05 (twenty-one years ago)

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