Is SPIN really circling the drain?

is there any major magazine that's more relevant today than it was 10 years ago?

playboy (via lohan)

some mags hold their own. i actually think rolling stone is better than it was 10 years ago. i'm glad people got the blender-isms out of their system. hated that magazine.

blender also the worst misuse of talent in history. glad some people got paid for a while, but other than that...

your criticism boils down to some lazy slag at young white people or something. lol indie. which i actually can totally relate, to, but the way that you're communicating that complaint is sorta lazy imo.

the amount of skin whiney has in this particular game is kinda his most pronounced weakness & is why "editor" seems like a weird job for him to seek imo

skin?

think he meant 'thin' skin

we've been over this - most people don't spend half their lives actively engaging the music/culture they hate and getting wound up about it, but it's kind of a big part of your character as a critic - which is kind of good in a critic, some quixotic windmill to be tilting against (death to false metal) but in an editor is like...look man. I can't stand Fleet Foxes. I know them to be swell dudes personally but that music just ughs me out. But if I'm the editor of a non-niche music mag, then Fleet Foxes sell enough records & fill big enough rooms that they merit the cover stories they tend to get, but it's difficult for me to imagine you seeing things that way, because again a big big part of what you do as a critic is to stand vociferously against stuff you don't like. skin in the game = you have bands & styles whose success you actively oppose

Skin in the game like stake in gambling

Wait did Whiney make Spin bimonthly or has it been for a bit?

There's a difference between having strong/passionate critical opinions and being perceptive enough to know what stories people are interested in reading Anyone who's not a mental 8-year-old should be able to balance the two.

Stevie, I hate to break the news but I'm not running Spin

There's a difference between having strong/passionate critical opinions and being perceptive enough to know what stories people are interested in reading Anyone who's not a mental 8-year-old should be able to balance the two.

dude you're a one-man war against half the shit Spin generally covers. you can, ahem, "spin" that as "strong critical opinons" but you actively pine daily for the total demise of a lot of the stuff you're now called to be impartial about. anybody who's not emotionally stunted should be able to hear this criticism without hurling insults.

It wouldn't be the first time a body with idiosyncratic tastes and a chip on their shoulder was senior editor of a music magazine
Also there's a lot of judgement here for an issue that isn't out yet

I just subscribed to Spin for a year for the first time in like .... a decade? First magazine I've ever subscribed to on my iPad. So these long reviews better be good or Whiney owes me. :)

whiney, can you get those staples to shine like they used to? those dull staples really take my enjoyment out of the magazine

btw i am subbing as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HR_-OqYZ1s

anybody who's not emotionally stunted should be able to hear this criticism without hurling insults.
--unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned)

I'll hurl my fist into your shitty face

http://lornasvoice.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/applause.gif?w=497

XD

lol

how are you going to reattach yr fist post-hurling

I assume you need it to shake at witch house blogs

i dunno. i think an editorial stance that involves strong stands of 'dislike' at something isn't necessarily a bad one? in this nichified universe, aren't there more than enough popular groups that can driver readerships that he COULD in fact ignore the fleet foxes? and fleet foxes fans will just read pitchfork

wax poetics is a good mag

I pay money for it

no, I agree 100% deej! I'm just saying like I'm not exactly a big Skrillex fan. But I think he was a great cover choice since his off-hipster-radar rise to dominance is like a thousand times more interesting a story than "Guy from Girls picks up a guitar, makes another album"

I'm just saying like I'm not exactly a big Skrillex fan.

But Korn featuring Skrillex, thats a different story.

But, I mean that's kind of aero's point, isn't it? like you couldn't even answer him without slagging off a successful trendy hipster band...

people who work at magazines don't do it alone and know it's not their personal blog so i dunno why people are acting like one guy being MAYBE slightly more opinionated than the average very opinionated music critic is gonna rock the boat

what scares us is I THINK we hear...violence

one guy being MAYBE slightly more opinionated than the average very opinionated music critic

lol whiney hates practically everything

only likes public enemy, cee-lo and the beatles iirc

See you cold lampin round town with Penny lane, and i'm like, fuck youuuuuuuu

took a moment but lol

whiney g. murdoch

it was something like in the SEVENTH issue i got from my subscription that i started getting pestered with "please re-subscribe now!" mailers. i should've cataloged them as the tone of warning changed with each consecutive one.

it went from "heads up" to "your running low!" to "your gonna miss out on some sweet stuff!" to a really weirdly condescending tone that was like spin was disappointed in me and could get on without me, thanks.

all magazines do that.

this is like when ppl were complaining about obama calling them asking for campaign donations

wasn't the pestering that got me, it was how increasingly urgent their memos were up until the ultimatum with that last one that it doesn't even matter anyways, i'm missing out on some great stuff - peace

it was like the memos just gave up on me, like they were only sending that last one b/c it was obligatory. i lol'd

I just have to point this out (saw the link from 1000timesyes).

http://www.fastcocreate.com/1679377/longform-critics-offer-shortform-responses-to-spinreviews

As for longform, these reviews will fall into three different categories. First, there are the new Spin Essentials, which will focus on the kinds of albums that the entire staff jams out to in the office all month (The first of these is up already--an epic review of the reunited Guided by Voices by editor in chief, Steve Kandell).

Under 700 words is "epic" for this guy, apparently.

which will focus on the kinds of albums that the entire staff jams out to in the office all month

imaging them blasting a new album on a big boombox and all the staff sliding across the floor in risky business style socks + wearing shades + playing air guitar

imagining*

spin reviews are really complex and sort of fascinating. they're no longer than 3 sentences, and you can never tell what the hell the critic has to say about them.

they should really do something about that, huh

can someone summarize this thread for me in 140 characters or less? i can't read all of this

no new spin twitter reviews today?

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