rock production changed SO much between 1978 and 1984 that it's hard to imagine that's true of many other bands, especially mainstream ones, if any, and the fact that that sound has been pretty unchanged through the Hagar era up to the present is even more amazing.
Definitely. They didn't even do the gated snare thing in the late-80s, when it was pretty much the law.
― Let A Man Come In And Do The Cop Porn (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 14 January 2012 14:56 (fourteen years ago)
If you look at Templeman's track record, dude knows what he's doing. Doobie Brothers, Van Morrison ... not the most fashionable producer, but a master of meat and potatoes. Ironically (or not) he produced the first Montrose record.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 14 January 2012 16:29 (fourteen years ago)
He also did a good job on Captain Beefheart's Clear Spot. Tix on sale today for much of the tour. I'd like to go, but only selling to people with American Express today. This kind of b.s. plus the $90 - $180 prices make me just say fuckit and stick with the less known bands in small rooms.
― Fastnbulbous, Saturday, 14 January 2012 17:15 (fourteen years ago)
I've loved VH since I was 10 years old and I've never seen them with DLR and I've always wanted to, but not for $100. Maybe that makes me sound cheap...okay, yes it does make me sound cheap, but even that isn't worth $100.
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 14 January 2012 17:19 (fourteen years ago)
Might have been worth the dough a couple of years back, when there was no threat of new material. I mean, they were awesome in '08. Played everything I'd hoped they play, more or less.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 14 January 2012 21:15 (fourteen years ago)
ok, this song isn't even as good as "Me Wise Magic"
― some dude, Monday, 16 January 2012 03:59 (fourteen years ago)
^^^OTFM
― Melle Mel and the Coconuts (thewufs), Monday, 16 January 2012 06:01 (fourteen years ago)
This is....good!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tY7ZqN8Ksdg
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 22:15 (fourteen years ago)
This is... a 1984 instrumental with new lyrics!
but it is way better than "Tattoo"
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 22:18 (fourteen years ago)
If they wanna raid the vaults for stuff like this, it's fine with me.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 22:21 (fourteen years ago)
i think at least half the record is going to be vault cleaning.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 22:24 (fourteen years ago)
misread that as "vacuum cleaning", lol
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 22:25 (fourteen years ago)
half an album of vacuum cleaning would still make it better than the record they made with Gary Cherone.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 22:27 (fourteen years ago)
agreed
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 22:27 (fourteen years ago)
Now that sounds like Van Halen.
I love how the band was still cribbing from the vaults as late as "1984." Cheap Trick should have known better than to blow its backlog wad so early ...
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 26 January 2012 01:12 (fourteen years ago)
YES! The boogie is back.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyuXCfKzfko
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 26 January 2012 02:32 (fourteen years ago)
I like "Tattoo," much better than expected too -- sorry.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 January 2012 02:35 (fourteen years ago)
Man, that part where it kicks in at 1:10 on Stay Frosty and the acoustic guitar is in this weird time signature relative to the full-band punches is KILL-ER!
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 26 January 2012 03:04 (fourteen years ago)
Snippet of "The Trouble With Never" at Amazon UK: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0071GGIPC/ref=dm_dp_trk2?ie=UTF8&qid=1327529944&sr=8-1
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 26 January 2012 03:08 (fourteen years ago)
YES!!!!!!!!!!! Van Halen is back, jack!!
― SeanWayne, Thursday, 26 January 2012 03:10 (fourteen years ago)
I saw those club clips and was stoked, I liked the new song they played at that gig, but got leary when I heard Tattoo, although that fucking song gets stuck in my head rigght away when I hear it, but hearing these snippits I'm stoked again... Van Fuckin Halen, motherfuckers!!
― SeanWayne, Thursday, 26 January 2012 03:12 (fourteen years ago)
This stuff is...okay. But "Stay Frosty" in particular is really missing Michael Anthony when the full band kicks in.
― 誤訳侮辱, Thursday, 26 January 2012 03:22 (fourteen years ago)
Get over it... Michael Anthony is not coming back.. this is the closest its gonna be to the real Van Halen.. And Wolfy, well if I can't have Michael Anthony, I'd rather have another Van Halen in the band. Missing his high pitched backups, although great, is a small price to pay to have Alex throughing down those HUGE back beats, Dave, one of the best frontmen of all time, and Eddie doing the most head chopping shit he can! I'll fucking take it!!
― SeanWayne, Thursday, 26 January 2012 03:27 (fourteen years ago)
i would never have imagined that 2012 was the year i'd get back into halen
― this is funny u bitter dork (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 26 January 2012 05:01 (fourteen years ago)
Man, Michael Anthony blows. I guess I miss his vox, but not his plodding bass playing, and Wolfy does fine with both of those things.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 26 January 2012 19:45 (fourteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ewsHwVOyyE
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 26 January 2012 19:47 (fourteen years ago)
UM HOLY SHIT Y'ALL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FZCwTsoQMs
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 27 January 2012 16:47 (fourteen years ago)
honestly totally shocked at the quality of this new stuff
― Full Frontal Newtity (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 27 January 2012 16:50 (fourteen years ago)
I'm happy to say these further leaks are less embarrassing then I expected or that "Tattoo" lead me to fear. However, I'm not digging the obvious vocal cut and pasting in both "Stay Frosty" and "China Town". Dave can't fit the lines in and still breathe, and the word crunch of that effect really bothers me.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 27 January 2012 16:54 (fourteen years ago)
Crazytr...I mean Chinatown sounds great!
― this is funny u bitter dork (forksclovetofu), Friday, 27 January 2012 18:07 (fourteen years ago)
I really do not like "The Trouble with Never". sounds like stripper rock with a forgettable chorus.
― Neanderthal, Sunday, 29 January 2012 18:22 (fourteen years ago)
Chinatown, on the other hand....is sweet.
― Neanderthal, Sunday, 29 January 2012 18:23 (fourteen years ago)
Tattoo is boring.
― Neanderthal, Sunday, 29 January 2012 18:25 (fourteen years ago)
Stay Frosty is fan-fucking-tastic.
― Neanderthal, Sunday, 29 January 2012 18:26 (fourteen years ago)
VH practically invented "stripper rock" so that doesn't work as an insult
― markarles (some dude), Sunday, 29 January 2012 18:30 (fourteen years ago)
Trouble with Never is bad stripper rock, let me put it that way. too generic 'lol-80s'.
― Neanderthal, Sunday, 29 January 2012 18:32 (fourteen years ago)
stuff like Chinatown will have my ear tho
― Neanderthal, Sunday, 29 January 2012 18:33 (fourteen years ago)
I am getting closer and closer to buying this album day of release. If Best Buy has it for $9.99 (or less), I'm sold.
― 誤訳侮辱, Sunday, 29 January 2012 19:14 (fourteen years ago)
wouldn't be surprised if they stock racks and racks and sell it for 7.99 the first week.
― Neanderthal, Sunday, 29 January 2012 19:17 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, now that I've heard 90 seconds of The Trouble With Never vs the 30 seconds I heard the other day, it's kinda dire. I may appreciate it more in the context of the album, though...who knows. I already like Tattoo more than I originally did.
― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 29 January 2012 21:36 (fourteen years ago)
Beats Workin'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIq9CYP2JEQ
Big Riverhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aFu5oZtGLI
Outta Spacehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6ZyoKbPOMw
As Ishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JKk0EfR0RM
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 January 2012 18:07 (fourteen years ago)
"Outta Space" makes a reference to a "facebook page" smh
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 January 2012 18:11 (fourteen years ago)
"Big River" is the first song preview that makes me want to hear the whole thing.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 30 January 2012 18:16 (fourteen years ago)
Big River is one of pre-debut demos, isn't it?
Just heard a :30 snippet of You and Your Blues too...great opening riff.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 January 2012 18:20 (fourteen years ago)
Ah, here's a :90
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zu7CXhBBywE
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 January 2012 18:22 (fourteen years ago)
Apparently "Big River" is a rework of "Big Trouble". No wonder I like it! Thought it sounded familiar.
Hate to say it, but listening to it now and the demo is better. Michael Anthony and DLR's higher register both sorely missed.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 30 January 2012 18:24 (fourteen years ago)
Honeybabysweetiedollhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68Gz88ziwTw
Bulletheadhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOZzoBS1eEw
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 January 2012 18:24 (fourteen years ago)
I think that's it now...90-second previews of every track are out there now. Of course, that's no way to judge an album properly, but so far I'm definitely giving it a B+ (The Trouble With Never and Tattoo being the only songs I'm not enthusiastic about).
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 January 2012 18:25 (fourteen years ago)
Have you seen a listing anywhere of which ones are old demos reconsidered? Because "Beats Working" is "Put Out The Lights" (I'm skimming through the demos to compare, but I'm sure someone's already done the mall).
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 30 January 2012 18:29 (fourteen years ago)
I haven't, but I'm sure one will pop up somewhere soon.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 January 2012 18:30 (fourteen years ago)