Is SPIN really circling the drain?

2. cut a hole in the box

lol this is exactly the sort of thread direction that our whiney haaaaaaaates

3. three three for my heartache

4. I can give you more

5. #neversellnocrackwhereyourestat

i hope to see a "thom yorkie" joke in this new column

and all english bands albums done in a mockney style mentioning blood sausage

Oh right http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_Sausage_%28band%29

whiney's theme song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zfm6ZkDeltM

its whiney's world, the rest of us just live in it!

http://www.npr.org/blogs/therecord/2012/01/13/145107490/are-140-character-reviews-the-future-of-music-criticism

good call to drop the reviewer name and score hashtags, that shit was superfluous/ugly

Ann's thing is so good

http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/1351/pokinsperpetuate1.jpg

perpetual lolz

http://i.imgur.com/IOOFN.png

hey weingarten, somebody told me to tell you, you're killing it, bro

knowledge, i mean

dudes, whiney deserves a raise, people on my facebook talking about spin! in 2012!

Yes, an old high-school friend posted the news on my Wall yesterday!

six months from now: whiney instates a new "full issue reviews only" policy

yeah but will more people buy Spin because of it? Or is it all about online clicks now?

maybe whiney could attest otherwise but i think most magazines are trying to think about how to survive beyond the quickly ending 'paper circulation era' and these changes are all about that

like maybe they'd like to keep readership of the physical magazine from dropping more quickly to make the transition easier and more gradual, but nobody can possibly expect the number of sales/subscribers to ever go up again

I will always prefer print mags myself but if everyone does go online eventually I really hope it's not in a half-arsed way like nme.com.
Mags like Spin,Rolling Stone,NME etc have a fantastic archive of old reviews and articles that I all hope end up online, and if they do that along with the same amount of reviews Pitchfork puts up each day, then they could have the best sites on the internet. No doubt if that were to happen they would want some silly amount of subscription money though :(

isn't the full Spin archive on Google Books? or was that only for a minute

It's still there. Yesterday I was nosing around the 1998 issue with Natalie Imbruglia on the cover.

its the gift that keeps on giving:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2012/01/12/spin_magazine_to_review_albums_on_twitter_is_this_the_death_of_music_criticism_.html

"but such responses can largely be blamed on Spin senior editor and avowed troll Christopher Weingarten."

hi forrest wickman, didn't know you read ilx

"Weingarten aims to be the watchdog of music criticdom, but his fierce contrarianism and bullshit-calling seem better suited for a freelancer or a voice on Twitter than a senior editor writing on the behalf of a major magazine"

trololo

wow, that slate piece COMPLETELY misses the point

you can just post that every day and reliably be right more often than wrong

I don't do display names but I hope somebody takes "you got us again, Weingarten!" while it's still hot

like maybe they'd like to keep readership of the physical magazine from dropping more quickly to make the transition easier and more gradual, but nobody can possibly expect the number of sales/subscribers to ever go up again

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i have to say the look/feel/attitude of new bimonthly print edition is pretty fucking #swag and unique, and, i'm not nastradamus or anything, but I'd like to believe that we could ultimately improve our sub base with it

was having this discussion with robin today and we both determined we'd be willing to buy an issue to see what it looks like
but after that if i'm not on a comp sub i'm gonna be MIGHTY BUTTHURT

two year sub is like 15 bones u cheapskate

When does Issue #1 of the WGW Era hit newsstands?

god whiney don't u know PAYING FOR THINGS is for people NOT IN THE INDUSTRY no wonder slate hates u

lol @ the WGW era

the first bimonthly ish hits stands in late Feb

i wish music mags would publish essays instead of reviews

otm

or that 'reviews' were less consumer guide oriented at any rate

Maybe pick up the next issue of spin #justsayin

haha i will, if only as a show of support for team_ilx, but 500 words isnt really an essay. i mean i dont know how broad an interest there is in like nyrb style essays about the peaking lights remix album or rick ross mixtape but i think longer essays that are freer range than simply 'talk about this album' or 100x better than 'record reviews' & s.thing i would pay money for on the reg

like i think my platonic ideal of music mag writing is alex ross' stuff for the new yorker, where hes given space to put a single artist in context or flesh out a personal take on avant-rock thats more than just an infograph or w/e

i wish music mags would publish essays instead of reviews

Here you go. Hope you like out-jazz and/or underground metal.

I dont know if I can say too much atm lampy, but what were gonna be doing in the mag is gonna be diff than the online reviews

musicians are going to review their own albums

aren't there plenty of places online where that can/does happen lamp? like the problem is in monetizing longform essays not in distributing them. the new yorker/nyrb can bank on their brand for longer than most places but in the long-term that's all they are. xp

i watched your speech posted upthread, and i feel that i was with you up until the last few minutes. i mean, i am not a fan of fleet foxes, but your criticism boils down to some lazy slag at young white people or something. lol indie. which i actually can totally relate, to, but the way that you're communicating that complaint is sorta lazy imo.

i remember your review of salem, which i thought was properly devastating.

could you do that in a twitter format? no fucking way. or could you sell me on some artist that you think is worthy of my time in that small a space? i think that you're underestimating the voice of the critic. the individual voice. i mean, read back on old ilm threads. people are all like "yeah, christgau (and granted he was pithy in his own way, but...) meltzer, bangs, etc."... the question of WHY people pay attention to music criticism is too complex to be summed up in an ilx post, much less a 140-character tweet. i feel like you're giving in. if you like music, engaging with it, engaging with people who are similarly enthusiastic or not even so, and writing about it, then why compromise? as i see it, you're giving in to the economic aspects, as you perceive that to be at this time. ffs, twitter might not exist in six months' time. why patronize something unless you fundamentally believe in it?

but then i've never understood twitter from the get-go. /grandpa

i think lamp is looking for good longform essays