official hip-hop litmus test: hip-hop's greatest year

dude, seriously, i'm just laughing at the gza thing mostly

any other self-consciousness is on you

Aesop Rizzle has 5,000 less twitter followers than Max B.

33,357
Followers

i would like to see some somanyshrimp tweets about del tha funkee homosapien's "living goat" status personally

I think he should most definetly cut back on the posts, you don't need to live here dude. But everyone has the right to state their opinions, who cares if you disagree, it's a message board for fuck sakes. If you're honestly angry and or offended by a comment made on any board or forum you're a fool for taking them so seriously.

Who's angry?

If you think I dont like gza you never read the original argument

Del hasn't aged well post 2k. Yet he remains better than fred durst

Dee

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Posts: 7872

My top twenty albums of 2003...

1. Jay-Z - The Black Album
2. Basement Jaxx - Kish Kash
3. Viktor Vaughn - Vaudeville Villain
4. Outkast - Speakerboxx/Love Below
5. Non-Prophets - HOPE
6. Sean Paul - Dutty Rock
7. Dizzee Rascal - Boy in Da Corner
8. Kompakt - Total 4
9. Madlib - Shades of Blue
10. Luomo - The Present Lover
11. Pete Rock - Lost and Found
12. Kylie Minogue - Body Language
13. Diverse - One A.M.
14. Prefuse 73 - One Word Extinguisher
15. Ludacris - Chicken and Beer
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17. Soul Position - 8 Million Stories
18. Postal Service - Give Up
19. Missy Elliot - This is Not a Test
20. M83 - Red Seas and Lost Ghosts

glad we got back on topic with another viable candidate for hip-hop's greatest year

Dude. I've repped for that shit on THIS website. but I appreciate that youre spending your time going through the archives just so you can diss me

in fairness, this was my 2003 pazz and jop ballot

1. Kaada - Thank You for Giving Me Your Valuable Time
2. Lightning Bolt - Wonderful Rainbow
3. Buck 65 - Talkin' Honky Blues
4. Tes - X2
5. The White Stripes - Elephant
6. Blood Brothers - Burn Piano Island, Burn
7. Bubba Sparxxx - Deliverance
8. David Banner - Mississippi: The Album
9. The Locust - Plague Soundscapes
10. Avenged Sevenfold - Waking the Fallen

blood brothers go harder than the black album to be fair

Having jay at the top of a critic ballot went from gtfo to ahead of my time to come on, dude.

I stand by the beats on the non prophets record being dope

Lol al you were a big booster of the black album back then iirc! And I thought still were

Mainly my tastes remain the same except I'm more willing to step out and vote for lcd rap/ ignore critrap. Also sold that madlib record. Ugh

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yeah i was gonna say, we all overrated the black album back then

i stand by the black album

Having jay at the top of a critic ballot went from gtfo to ahead of my time to come on, dude.

if that album on the ballot is Vol. 1 In My Lifetime then this is otm.

deej getting torn apart here is like seeing Tyson in his prime, just toying with guys that were in reality, stumbling after the first punch and just trying anything to stay up after each one knocked another tooth out. the 'max b has classic songs hiphop fans all love' thing was my favourite one though.

and while def jam electro artists are bought up- who was it who did an electro track called 'def jam'? oh my bad, i finally found it. this is one of the most fun compilations max b ever made

wait, why is a hoy hoy posting in a hip hop thread as if anyone takes him seriously?

i didn't say 'hip-hop fans ALL love' you misquoting toy. sorry bro. max b does have classics. you're a clown

wait, why is deej posting in a hip hop thread as if anyone takes him seriously?

why is a hoy hoy trying to use the ilx zing equivalent of 'i know you are but what am i'?

http://www.last.fm/user/Sutrarama

stick to the magnetic fields u chump

tbh i'm impressed it took this thread a good 24 hours for this shit to start

if only max b could reach the classic heights of the new pornographers

like, i get it, you don't fuck with max b, but don't front like your taste is unimpeachable just because you don't pay any attention to what american rap fans are actually listening to & you've decided to trust whiney's wikipedia research

of course i didn't quote you exactly. even so it was a stupid comment. not that i'd know, because clowns don't know anything about hiphop

saying max b has songs that are widely considered classics by rap fans is a 'stupid comment'?

if you say so dude

oh shit i also like music other than hiphop. ;_;

saying max b has songs that are widely considered classics by rap fans is a 'stupid comment'?

― somebody call the brinks truck (D-40), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 10:02 (21 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

well, yes. name one that goons can agree on and i'll take it back. oh my bad, he had influence on french montana.

i don't know why i bother contributing here when dudes are so quick to shit on & condescend as if i don't know what i'm talking about. its not like i'm not bringing anything to the table here but if you could at least stop acting like i'm just making this shit up to ... i don't even know what you think my possible motivation could be. it's not like there aren't other outlets. but i like shooting the shit w/ a good % of the people here when i'm not being jumped on for daring to suggest that max b was an important figure in hip-hop or w/e

well, yes. name one that goons can agree on and i'll take it back. oh my bad, he had influence on french montana.

― Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, January 10, 2012 4:04 AM (36 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

what are you basing your knowledge of this subject on? the fact that you think al is better at zinging than i am?

the fact that you think al is better at zinging than i am?

this is basically all i came back in the thread to say! you said some stupid shit, whiney and al zinged the shit out of you, i read, i lold, you jumped down my neck.

Sutrarama hasn’t got any charts yet

what are you basing your knowledge of this subject on?

my own following of hiphop over the past ten years? i know i may have listened to some other genres during that time so...

at what point did whiney 'mike tyson' totally disprove my argument that max b's career has had an impact that more than rivals the impact of original concept, that had me staggering on the floor looking foolish? was it when he ran to wikipedia to back up his understanding of max's catalog? when he tried to use max's 40k twitter followers to imply that this had some kind of correlation with musical impact?

this is basically all i came back in the thread to say! you said some stupid shit, whiney and al zinged the shit out of you, i read, i lold, you jumped down my neck.

― Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, January 10, 2012 4:07 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

you're wrong about max b -- congratulations on saying stupid shit

tbh what other yardstick are you going to use in 2012 other than twitter followers and datpiff listens? actual record sales?

yardstick of what? he's comparing it to a group that doesn't even have a twitter account, and whose creative prime existed prior to twitter

how much hiphop fans care about him today?

never mind that twitter followers doesnt actually correlate to, you know, musical impact? i'm sure flo rida has lots of twitter followers too but no one here has argued his impact on hip hop is particularly large. it was a terrible & pointless tangent

so because 40,000 people follow a 3-year imprisoned rapper it means no one cares about him? he has 10,000 more followers than aesop rock, a rapper with a career that is twice as long & involved no stints in prison? idk buddy

seems like a p ridiculous measure of anything at all to me but then, i'm staggering around the boxing ring after that knockout punch

ok i concede that point. but can a song be a classic if it was only heard by only 50,000 people around the world? Shouldn't a classic be something that makes everyone want to pass it on and claim it as their own and pass it on etc.? Him and Gucci started out with tiny fanbases and one had crazy anthems that everyone rallied around even when he was in jail, and the other... had decent mixtapes that most people forgot to download and went to jail.

http://www.datpiff.com/mixtapes-search.php?criteria=max+b&x=0&y=0
look at the download numbers man

most of those numbers are under 100k? doesnt make me think ppl are v. enthusiastic for something free by max b.

i don't really get where you're getting this perception that people forgot to download his 'decent' tapes but its not rlly an accurate perception ime

anyway this conversation is ridiculous, im sorry i bought up how i thought 2009 was a bad year. next time i wont say my opinions.

i mean, in case you weren't aware, we're comparing his impact w/ original concept, which is an oranges-apples comparison anyway, but having 'only' a couple mixtapes that crest 100,000 downloads on one of several sites that offer those tapes is pretty impressive. they even award it a little datpiff trophy, lol

not that it's a popularity contest anyway, b/c i'm sure tyga & flo rida sell more, but neither has had the kind of creative impact we're talking about, which is why running to statistics like this is a largely pointless exercise. nonetheless hes more popular than you think he is

im aware of how mixtape websites work. jesus, no need to be so fucking condescending.

cant tell if u are being sarcastic now ;_;