official hip-hop litmus test: hip-hop's greatest year

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the question was whether or not 2009 was a good year for rap music, not whether either of those artists are analogous to canonized rappers.

somebody call the brinks truck (D-40), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 00:57 (fourteen years ago)

but i can tell you 100x over that the last killer mike isn't touching records released by either of those two in 2009

somebody call the brinks truck (D-40), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 00:57 (fourteen years ago)

There's literally no year that doesn't have a few good rap records, good work working Max B into the convo

pug waffle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 01:23 (fourteen years ago)

"1988 was a great year for rap... Ultimate Force, Original Concept, Alliance.... "

pug waffle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 01:24 (fourteen years ago)

You have Max B tourettes dude

pug waffle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 01:26 (fourteen years ago)

max b is just a littttle bigger of a deal than original concept

somebody call the brinks truck (D-40), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 01:35 (fourteen years ago)

Would you say Max B who's never had a video on MTV is as important as Stetsasonic

pug waffle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 01:40 (fourteen years ago)

Original Concept > Max B btw

pug waffle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 01:40 (fourteen years ago)

i like original concept aite but no

somebody call the brinks truck (D-40), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 01:41 (fourteen years ago)

Poll

pug waffle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 01:42 (fourteen years ago)

you can play this game all day but dude is one of the best rappers of the last half decade imo. whether or not someone like that can ever be important as stezo is a pretty boring argument, but acting like hes a marginal figure is dumb

somebody call the brinks truck (D-40), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 01:42 (fourteen years ago)

I mean he's important and all, but he's like the 70th biggest rap story in the year of Blueprint 3 and Original Concept was def top 30 for 88

pug waffle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 01:45 (fourteen years ago)

but he's like the 70th biggest rap story in the year of Blueprint 3
no

somebody call the brinks truck (D-40), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 01:46 (fourteen years ago)

There's def people who think Stezo was one of the best of his era too

pug waffle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 01:46 (fourteen years ago)

I dont even think he made the Skillz 2009 rap-up

pug waffle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 01:47 (fourteen years ago)

max's importance is in his influence : he's a direct influence on one of the biggest selling artist of 2011, on the current biggest ny rapper (not named jay-z) & on the most hyped rookie of 2011.

Max is a rapper's rapper i guess

sisilafami, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 01:58 (fourteen years ago)

Max B: The Talk Talk of rap

pug waffle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 02:01 (fourteen years ago)

if max was released today it would crash rap radar. his popularity grew since his trip to prison

somebody call the brinks truck (D-40), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 02:01 (fourteen years ago)

more like grandmaster caz

sisilafami, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 02:13 (fourteen years ago)

i honestly haven't gotten any sense of max's popularity growing in the last year or two, outside of deej posts it seems like people talk about him way less now than a couple years ago

seasonal thug (some dude), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 02:20 (fourteen years ago)

it would crash. rap. radar.

pug waffle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 02:25 (fourteen years ago)

i honestly haven't gotten any sense of max's popularity growing in the last year or two, outside of deej posts it seems like people talk about him way less now than a couple years ago

― seasonal thug (some dude), Monday, January 9, 2012 8:20 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

why do you think french montana is the hot prospect this year, dude

somebody call the brinks truck (D-40), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 02:31 (fourteen years ago)

it would crash. rap. radar.

― pug waffle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, January 9, 2012 8:25 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

http://trends.google.com/websites?q=spin.com,+rapradar.com&sa=N

somebody call the brinks truck (D-40), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 02:33 (fourteen years ago)

i mean, sure, max's buzz isn't what it was when he was actually releasing music in terms of web presence, but basically anyone i know who is into rap irl knows max b now, and that wasn't the case in 2009

somebody call the brinks truck (D-40), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 02:34 (fourteen years ago)

& to head off that zing, not because of me

somebody call the brinks truck (D-40), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 02:34 (fourteen years ago)

if you asked rap fans in 1988 who Original Concept was, they would know too tho

pug waffle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 02:39 (fourteen years ago)

you do a good job of comparing things that weren't compared. that part was in response to al's point, not yours

somebody call the brinks truck (D-40), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 02:44 (fourteen years ago)

original concept made one album. max b made like 12

somebody call the brinks truck (D-40), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 02:45 (fourteen years ago)

one of the five most popular rappers in america never claimed original concept as a primary influenec

somebody call the brinks truck (D-40), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 02:46 (fourteen years ago)

i literally haven't heard anyone credit french montana's current success to max b or even bring him up since dude got a hit song

seasonal thug (some dude), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 02:47 (fourteen years ago)

Original Concept was sampled on like two of three most important rap albums of 1988, but OK

pug waffle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 02:55 (fourteen years ago)

stfu whiney, if they didn't make more albums last month than lil b they DON'T MATTER

seasonal thug (some dude), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 02:56 (fourteen years ago)

When did I say they didn't matter?

Arguing with you guys is ridiculous, its like youre going out of your way to get me to say something most ppl disagree with to discredit the thrust of what I'm saying.

And french montana's buzz certainly existed before he had a hit. Kanye was trying to sign him prior to that iirc?

somebody call the brinks truck (D-40), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 03:07 (fourteen years ago)

So.....1988 or 1993?

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 03:09 (fourteen years ago)

MAX B

pug waffle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 03:10 (fourteen years ago)

The point I made w the catalog size comparison us that max had a five year career and released tons of songs widely considered classics among rap fans. Original concept had one album. The comparison is apples and oranges already, but the scope of max's career is much larger

somebody call the brinks truck (D-40), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 03:10 (fourteen years ago)

Lol whiney you chose this argument! I mentioned him in passing and you decided top make a national issue about it

somebody call the brinks truck (D-40), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 03:10 (fourteen years ago)

Original Concept has released TWO classic songs. I have no idea what Max B songs "rap fans" consider as "classics"

pug waffle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 03:12 (fourteen years ago)

Max B's wikipedia page doesn't even name one song anywhere, but OC's page is littered with references to "Can You Feel It"

pug waffle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 03:13 (fourteen years ago)

lol 'discredit', again with the haughty politician talk

seasonal thug (some dude), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 03:15 (fourteen years ago)

Lol @ you citing wikipedia

somebody call the brinks truck (D-40), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 03:15 (fourteen years ago)

\o_o/

pug waffle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 03:16 (fourteen years ago)

max b having "tons of songs widely considered classics among rap fans" is pretty hilarious

seasonal thug (some dude), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 03:16 (fourteen years ago)

i know wikipedia's not nearly as reliable a source as "all the rap fans I know IRL"

pug waffle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 03:17 (fourteen years ago)

Ok dudes if you say so. I certainly trust friends irl over hipster puppies, al and wikipedia

somebody call the brinks truck (D-40), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 03:19 (fourteen years ago)

And....once again it's Manos: The Hands of Fate

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 03:19 (fourteen years ago)

deej we already went over how i actually knew max b's music better than you before you got all superfan

seasonal thug (some dude), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 03:22 (fourteen years ago)

how come al doesn't get a mean nickname

pug waffle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 03:23 (fourteen years ago)

https://twitter.com/#!/MaxBiggavelli
38,725 Followers

whoa, slow down there Ashton

pug waffle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 03:24 (fourteen years ago)

if twitter was around in 1989, like Kwame would have 100k+ followers

pug waffle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 03:25 (fourteen years ago)


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