official hip-hop litmus test: hip-hop's greatest year

ok but you understand that being able to count the good-to-great things on yr toes makes it a bad year, right?

― unattractive on the g side (a hoy hoy), Monday, January 9, 2012 3:32 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this as an example of the major artists who were reaching peak creativity. i also did a mix in '09 of my favorite rap but there was lots of good rap then

(obv az & quik not reaching peak creativity then, but those are dope records regardless)

http://blackhandproductions.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/appalachian_st_michigan_football_reaxsff.jpg

how so?

4 of the major rappers of the last 5 years releasing some of their best music qualifies as a 'good year' imo

err I don't think laundry lists of # of good/great albums is how you determine how great a year was, cuz considering how much rap gets released a year, one will find scores of 'good' stuff every year.

― Neanderthal, Monday, 9 January 2012 21:34 (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

ok so then we can look at it another way and go 'hmmm i wonder what was the zeitegist single and album of that year? empire state of mind and the blueprint 3?' and even moreso do i hate it.

BP3 did kind of end the year on a stink but idk I've acquired a lot of great rap from between 2008-2011 so I don't view it as like a 'low' point or anything.

i dunno what 'the major rappers' means if you are talking about max b and jacka. surely the five are lil wayne, jay-z, drake, jeezy and rawse

in terms of sales and critical acclaim unfortunately

im talking about in terms of creative great rap music that has any kind of popularity.

whiney otm, really sorry to see dubstep go

it took slightly longer from FWD to Skrillex than 9 months, but you're right, south London is in America

the impact of Nation of Millions and Straight Out of Compton is exactly analogous to the Jacka and Max B, deej otm

lol

2009 was an incredible year for rap music

the impact of Nation of Millions and Straight Out of Compton is exactly analogous to the Jacka and Max B, deej otm

― pug waffle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, January 9, 2012 5:51 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah thats exactly what i said

the question was whether or not 2009 was a good year for rap music, not whether either of those artists are analogous to canonized rappers.

but i can tell you 100x over that the last killer mike isn't touching records released by either of those two in 2009

There's literally no year that doesn't have a few good rap records, good work working Max B into the convo

"1988 was a great year for rap... Ultimate Force, Original Concept, Alliance.... "

You have Max B tourettes dude

max b is just a littttle bigger of a deal than original concept

Would you say Max B who's never had a video on MTV is as important as Stetsasonic

Original Concept > Max B btw

i like original concept aite but no

Poll

you can play this game all day but dude is one of the best rappers of the last half decade imo. whether or not someone like that can ever be important as stezo is a pretty boring argument, but acting like hes a marginal figure is dumb

I mean he's important and all, but he's like the 70th biggest rap story in the year of Blueprint 3 and Original Concept was def top 30 for 88

but he's like the 70th biggest rap story in the year of Blueprint 3
no

There's def people who think Stezo was one of the best of his era too

I dont even think he made the Skillz 2009 rap-up

max's importance is in his influence : he's a direct influence on one of the biggest selling artist of 2011, on the current biggest ny rapper (not named jay-z) & on the most hyped rookie of 2011.

Max is a rapper's rapper i guess

Max B: The Talk Talk of rap

if max was released today it would crash rap radar. his popularity grew since his trip to prison

more like grandmaster caz

i honestly haven't gotten any sense of max's popularity growing in the last year or two, outside of deej posts it seems like people talk about him way less now than a couple years ago

it would crash. rap. radar.

i honestly haven't gotten any sense of max's popularity growing in the last year or two, outside of deej posts it seems like people talk about him way less now than a couple years ago

― seasonal thug (some dude), Monday, January 9, 2012 8:20 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

why do you think french montana is the hot prospect this year, dude

it would crash. rap. radar.

― pug waffle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, January 9, 2012 8:25 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

http://trends.google.com/websites?q=spin.com,+rapradar.com&sa=N

i mean, sure, max's buzz isn't what it was when he was actually releasing music in terms of web presence, but basically anyone i know who is into rap irl knows max b now, and that wasn't the case in 2009

& to head off that zing, not because of me

if you asked rap fans in 1988 who Original Concept was, they would know too tho

you do a good job of comparing things that weren't compared. that part was in response to al's point, not yours

original concept made one album. max b made like 12

one of the five most popular rappers in america never claimed original concept as a primary influenec

i literally haven't heard anyone credit french montana's current success to max b or even bring him up since dude got a hit song

Original Concept was sampled on like two of three most important rap albums of 1988, but OK

stfu whiney, if they didn't make more albums last month than lil b they DON'T MATTER

When did I say they didn't matter?

Arguing with you guys is ridiculous, its like youre going out of your way to get me to say something most ppl disagree with to discredit the thrust of what I'm saying.

And french montana's buzz certainly existed before he had a hit. Kanye was trying to sign him prior to that iirc?

So.....1988 or 1993?

MAX B

The point I made w the catalog size comparison us that max had a five year career and released tons of songs widely considered classics among rap fans. Original concept had one album. The comparison is apples and oranges already, but the scope of max's career is much larger