Metallica! Rick Rubin! Death Magnetic! September 16 (-ish)!

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Talk about brickwall, has anyone read this:

http://www.metalsucks.net/?p=7485

Basically it states that before mastering every single track was brickwalled already in the final mix. Making the final master a disaster.

Marty Innerlogic, Wednesday, 17 September 2008 09:46 (fifteen years ago) link

Adding even more intrigue, the folks at Guitar Hero made their own (apparently superior) mix, a flac recording of which just appeared on the torrent sites a few hours ago. Very interested in hearing it...

A. Begrand, Wednesday, 17 September 2008 10:07 (fifteen years ago) link

hmmm hetfield's crooning is at odds with the riffs and structure of these songs, but musically we get some interesting bits cropping up from time to time. vocals and lyrics are bad, and the drumming lacks creativity and flair, but these elements are to be expected and i can take solace in the fact that the album at least sounds inspired from time to time.

compared with metallica's 80s output, this obviously doesn't measure up and we shouldn't expect it to. by any standards it's probably a below-average album, but the fact that it's such a comprehensive step-up from the inexplicably bad st. anger is a point of merit. having seen 'some kind of monster', i was convinced that the band had lost all concept of its fans, its origins, and its very reason for existing. the fact that james, lars and co. seem to be consciously trying to reignite some spark and amend previous missteps is commendable.

Charlie Howard, Wednesday, 17 September 2008 11:06 (fifteen years ago) link

commendable, like a deadbeat dad finally paying half his child support.

REIGN IN FUDGE (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 17 September 2008 13:49 (fifteen years ago) link

metallica owes us, and owes us big.

Shushtari (res), Wednesday, 17 September 2008 14:20 (fifteen years ago) link

"it's fast, c'mon guys! old man hetfield's angry about somethin'!"

REIGN IN FUDGE (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 17 September 2008 14:27 (fifteen years ago) link

for all its anger and speed on occasion, the album plays out pretty sluggishly. god knows why the songs needed to be so long (yet again)

Charlie Howard, Wednesday, 17 September 2008 15:18 (fifteen years ago) link

many of their older album have huge songs too, and no one complained. however, those albums were 45-55 minutes, where this one is 75 or so. There is truncated version floating around on the torrent sites, one that was 'shortened into a better album.'

Shushtari (res), Wednesday, 17 September 2008 15:21 (fifteen years ago) link

i tried to do that with STANGER but the production was so shit it was almost impossible to get decent edits. would've made a good 15 minute ep.

REIGN IN FUDGE (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 18 September 2008 03:44 (fifteen years ago) link

I heard the GHIII version, and it's quite good. The dynamic range is easier on the ears and there's a variety in sound quality that makes it a lot more appealing to listen to.

Shushtari (res), Thursday, 18 September 2008 04:03 (fifteen years ago) link

commendable, like a deadbeat dad finally paying half his child support.

― REIGN IN FUDGE (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, September 17, 2008 1:49 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

heh, pretty much!

I want to be your Dairy Queen (latebloomer), Thursday, 18 September 2008 04:52 (fifteen years ago) link

Stuff I agree with, so far:

This lemon is just a lot closer to lemonade than anything they've put out since The Black Album.

I like Kirk Hammett's solos on this record a lot.

for all its anger and speed on occasion, the album plays out pretty sluggishly.

Cosmo Lee is a metal kid.

musically we get some interesting bits cropping up from time to time.

vocals and lyrics are bad, and the drumming lacks creativity and flair

commendable, like a deadbeat dad finally paying half his child support.

Favorite track so far, by far: "Suicide & Redemption," which has no words. Guitars in the otherwise boring "The Day That Never Comes" are good, too. And Hetfield's singing sounds kind of beautiful whenever he goes up to his higher register to recite the title line of the otherwise useless "All Nightmare Long." (I'm still trying to make sense of the rest, but not expecting much.)

xhuxk, Saturday, 20 September 2008 01:29 (fifteen years ago) link

Funniest (though not necessarily most entertaining) part of "Suicide & Redemption": The part toward the beginning that always reminds me of "Earache My Eye" by Cheech & Chong.

xhuxk, Saturday, 20 September 2008 01:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Cosmo Lee rules.

caek, Saturday, 20 September 2008 01:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Musically, I'm all over it. Lyrically...ugh. "What don't kill us makes us more strong" just makes me cringe every time I hear it. My vague theory is that it's because James is actually singing now, so he draws more attention to himself and the lyrics. Or something. But I'm just overjoyed that there's extended wailing-Kirk solos, big meaty long songs with awesome tempo changes...like they're finally not afraid of just being Metallica again. It ain't always pretty, but damn it's a relief.

VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 20 September 2008 04:21 (fifteen years ago) link

"cosmo"

metal kids don't write for pitchfork.

REIGN IN FUDGE (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 20 September 2008 04:46 (fifteen years ago) link

DEATH TO POSERS

IF YOU ARE A FALSE DONT ENTRY

>:[

REIGN IN FUDGE (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 20 September 2008 04:51 (fifteen years ago) link

so, 'death magnetic' too loud = it sucks?

wsj (sí, wall street journal) asks

Shin Oliva Suzuki, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 03:32 (fifteen years ago) link

it's just tedious to listen to compared with the dynamic range of the GHIII version

Shushtari (res), Tuesday, 30 September 2008 22:01 (fifteen years ago) link

the interactive section on the WSJ link should have compared the Death Magnetic with Master of Puppets or Ride the Lightning, not ...And Justice for All.

Shushtari (res), Tuesday, 30 September 2008 22:02 (fifteen years ago) link

as to be expected, lars likes the new album loud.

mark e, Friday, 3 October 2008 13:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Metallica’s drummer, the usually quiet and demure Lars Ulrich, has spoken out on the controversy surrounding the mix of the band’s new album, ‘Death Magnetic’.

lolz

original bgm, Friday, 3 October 2008 13:52 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm pretty much done with this album now.

chap, Friday, 3 October 2008 14:04 (fifteen years ago) link

that good huh ?

mark e, Friday, 3 October 2008 14:05 (fifteen years ago) link

It's not bad at all, and if I was fifteen I've no doubt I'd be wallowing in it for many months to come. But now I've checked out what they're up to quite thoroughly, I'll go back to the old stuff thanks.

chap, Friday, 3 October 2008 14:13 (fifteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

i've actually been listening to the track 'broken, beat & scarred' quite a bit recently. totally intrigued by that riff in the verse, and it's got a great groove.
pretty much worn out by the rest of it, and i still haven't made it through the whole album, mainly due to the fact that most of the songs are so obviously overlong and follow such lazy structures.

Charlie Howard, Sunday, 19 October 2008 04:06 (fifteen years ago) link

four weeks pass...

just listened to this again...

man...i keep wondering why i never want to listen to this, and this time the overcompression and horrid digital recording quality is just screaming at me...even at low volumes it's just ridiculously shrill and aggravating on a sonic level. zero bass as well.

any major some dude will tell you (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 18 November 2008 22:09 (fifteen years ago) link

ladies and gentlemen, rick rubin!

the sir weeze, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 22:43 (fifteen years ago) link

two months pass...

omfg this video

You just got HAPPENED (Hurting 2), Sunday, 15 February 2009 06:28 (fifteen years ago) link

Slightly better quality

You just got HAPPENED (Hurting 2), Sunday, 15 February 2009 06:36 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah thanks for the video metallica, better luck next time on the music

dunt renaissance (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 15 February 2009 08:36 (fifteen years ago) link

Was all the more awesome because I saw it on the treadmill TV at the Y.

You just got HAPPENED (Hurting 2), Sunday, 15 February 2009 17:29 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Face facts. Metallica has not made a good album since Justice. Taking out every worthwhile aspect of your music does not constitute maturity.

ilxor, Saturday, 28 March 2009 04:53 (fifteen years ago) link

IAWDC*

(*I AGREE WITH DIS CHALLOPS)

GÖDEL ESCHER BOCK BOCK BOCK (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 28 March 2009 07:27 (fifteen years ago) link

three months pass...

man...i keep wondering why i never want to listen to this, and this time the overcompression and horrid digital recording quality is just screaming at me...even at low volumes it's just ridiculously shrill and aggravating on a sonic level. zero bass as well.

a similar charge could be leveled at "...And Justice for All" though. I actually prefer the production on this one to that one.

Mike Crandle, Financial Analyst, Bear Stearns, New York, NY 10185 (res), Thursday, 2 July 2009 03:53 (fourteen years ago) link

three months pass...

a year on and it's still shite

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 15:44 (fourteen years ago) link

roxy totally otm on this thread

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 15:58 (fourteen years ago) link

What, you expected it to get good all of the sudden? Is there some kind of "time release" music technology, like a vitamin?

Bill Magill, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 16:00 (fourteen years ago) link

no, i just hope those who gushed over it on release will now admit it's shite.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 16:17 (fourteen years ago) link

i really think we're at the point where it's impossible to make like a big budget "name brand" major label rock record that is actually good. they all just sound like shit now

could it be that it was all so shipley? (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 16:19 (fourteen years ago) link

Mastodon kinda did it but even then it doesn't hold a candle to their first couple of albums.
If Torche and Baroness become a name brand it could be possible. I think Qotsa's best days are sadly behind them though, even if i liked their recent albums, they just werent as great as preceded it.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 16:21 (fourteen years ago) link

but that would probably be better on its own thread

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 16:23 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah yr right, nu metallica would suck a dong even if they did that shit in robert pollard's basement or the most expensive studio in the world

could it be that it was all so shipley? (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 16:24 (fourteen years ago) link

all bands run out of steam. Some quit and some shit over their legacy cuz it makes them money and still sell out stadiums. Some fans put up with it because they still mainly play the old songs live.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 16:27 (fourteen years ago) link

and if one truly awful album is followed by a "decentish" album then it's regarded as a "return to form".

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 16:28 (fourteen years ago) link

"Mastodon kinda did it but even then it doesn't hold a candle to their first couple of albums."

I disagree with this. I think their new one is much better than Remission, and its up there with Leviathan. I think these guys are getting better.

Bill Magill, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 16:29 (fourteen years ago) link

anyway i still reckon you should start a separate thread and paste those posts on it.
xp

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 16:30 (fourteen years ago) link

best major label rock albums of the decade

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 16:35 (fourteen years ago) link

i just hope those who gushed over it on release will now admit it's shite

No such luck, bud. I was listening to it yesterday. I still like it a lot. And when I saw them in February, the new songs went over huge with the crowd. I expect the same thing to happen when I see them in a couple of weeks at MSG.

neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 16:42 (fourteen years ago) link

I still like this too, my only two complaints being the horrible compression and the "what don't kill you make you more strong" chorus lyric.

& other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 16:45 (fourteen years ago) link


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