official hip-hop litmus test: hip-hop's greatest year

Enter the Wu-Tang is a compelling argument on its own iirc

'93 also had Midnight Marauders and Enta Da Stage, but yeah, I prefer '94.

Stress: Extinction Agenda is a good argument for 1994

can I just say the competing pics in the original is maybe the most perfect encapsulation of hip-hop eras ever

co-sign

coming out hard is 93 but super tight is 94...

Straight Outta Compton vs The Chronic - which might as well be 1993
Nation of Millions (or Making Trouble?) vs Enter the Wu

it's about a shift in the techtonic plates, not how many great records in the year, i thought?

Yeah, I mean, I didn't invent this argument or the idea of "1993."

I mean you;ve got Doggystyle and all the Dre singles symbolizing the rise of the West and all the production/lyrical changes that occur over ALL OF HIP HOP (ie, rap's biggest techtonic shift since "I Know You Got Soul"/"Rebel Without A Pause"). You've got Wu-Tang, Tribe, Black Moon and the Duck Down crew, + all the Nas and Biggie singles repping the creative rebirth of the East. Not to mention what Eightball and MJG and UGK were up to. It's not really up for discussion

1993:

who caught the harm
you bought the farm
if you're a friend
there's no need for alarm

i picked 88
though the albums that came in 93 is ridiculous, emotionally it's always the late 80s for me.
i realize now that it's amazing to get to see something *really* happen in music, like an artform coming to maturity and really being born and i'll probably never ever see something like that happen for the rest of my life.

if only I'd been born ten years earlier. sigh.

i realize now that it's amazing to get to see something *really* happen in music, like an artform coming to maturity and really being born and i'll probably never ever see something like that happen for the rest of my life.

― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, January 9, 2012 11:53 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

You see it all the time, but the internet makes sure the period from conception to death is about 9 months.

See I was 12 and 17, respectively. I know I listened to more hip-hop in '93 and there was probably more stuff from that era that I still listen to today, but man, getting dubbed cassettes of shit like N.W.A., Slick Rick, EPMD, Eric B & Rakim, and Too $hort was life-changing.

i realize now that it's amazing to get to see something *really* happen in music, like an artform coming to maturity and really being born and i'll probably never ever see something like that happen for the rest of my life.

― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, January 9, 2012 11:53 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

You see it all the time, but the internet makes sure the period from conception to death is about 9 months.

― pug waffle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, January 9, 2012 11:00 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah maybe. also i'm a little bit at the point in my life w/parenthood, etc that i don't care as much about it...like i said, my vote is not really based on logic or anything.

also yeah what jon said, i'm around his age, same experience with cassettes

Well, to be perfectly fair ut was 1989 by the time I was getting all those dubbed copies, but it was all '88 albums that I first heard.

whiney otm, really sorry to see dubstep go

*witch house

Hip-hop was probably the last great new American art form, right?

Got me thinking, but probably.

video games

video games run concurrently with hip hop though, maybe even a little before

and not as strictly "american" by a long shot

i meant the lana del rey single

i feel like the quest to define particular 'artforms' is an awkward one, because you're never going to be able to set a rigid definition of what an art form is or what a particular notion of an artform is? not that it matters, really, though if whiney's 'the last' means 'the last' rather than the most recent i'd probably disagree

you gotta credit the japanese for vid games to SOME degree now

japanese video games are like the british hip hop of the art form

http://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/images/ffx_battle1.jpg

on the couch now
watching Countdown
with a bottle of stout now

surely the japanese >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> america re: video games?

i'll let m@tt h. field this one!

video games pre-NES = 50s rock n' roll/blues/r&b

NES-SNES - 1960s rock

PlayStation-PS2 - 70s rock

now-80s and beyond

So I'm guessing Geir would only stan for the original Genesis?

93, the realness

is it 2 real 4 u

not voting in this

Well that does go well with my recent thought that Mario is like the Beatles of video games.

Hip-hop was probably the last great new American art form, right?

if you mean "most recent" by "last" yeah - if you mean "final" then that's a completely dumb way of thinking unless you think we're about to get hit by a meteor or something

ur forgetting the technos

also rage comics of course

lol @ all of you talking about these types of music as the most recent American art form during the year that mainstream America was introduced to Tebowing

2011 was really fucking good for hiphop. Not joking.

djp can you explain why i keep seeing tim tebows name, preferably in a haiku. wiki just tells me he is good at american football, also something to do with eye paint. not exactly supermario-ing it.

Our Lord Tim Tebow
Is not a good quarterback
But God wins him games

down blue astroturf
the fiery donkey rides
snow on the rockies

Scoring a touchdown
Taking a knee, head on hand
Fervent, self-absorbed praise

Its 3rd and 18
Studied Bibles, not spirals
The Lord will provide

This poll really might as well be "how old are you" now that I think about it

my favorite stuff is for the most part BETWEEN '88 and '93

my favorite stuff is for the most part BETWEEN '88 and '93

― The Silent Extreme (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 9 January 2012 20:19 (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

revised poll options:

-1988
-the day T.R.O.Y was released
-1993

lol

not quite tho

2009 was pretty lame.

― unattractive on the g side (a hoy hoy), Monday, January 9, 2012 7:40 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

wtf 2009 was great