teengirl fantasy, miracles club, mi ami, 100% silk and the rise of HIPSTER HOUSE: S/D

the maria minerva album is excellent imo. i hadn't listened to any of this stuff when i posted here defending it conceptually. seems quite far from any kind of pastiche of house really...

Octo Octa's "I'm Trying" sounds nice. but what i'm not supposed to like it?

This is a nice 100% Silk mix from Fader:

http://www.thefader.com/2012/01/05/download-100-silks-fader-mix-2/

the maria minerva album is excellent imo.

haha not sure which album you mean but: yes. been listening to this ital remix s0 much l8ly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji8BVXZ0JZc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nya7EENhHw

Feeling Blondes Wine/Water record as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMKK8bRzNfU

blondes rule. they are sort of a one-trick pony but it is a v satisfying trick

http://soundcloud.com/bobbybrowser707/no-appointments

wow, Magic Touch - Clubhouse is really something

here's my hipster house from a few years ago...

http://soundcloud.com/newyorkendless

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUN7z_fPpDA

from the new peaking lights remix 12"

not sure what to make of this: http://blogs.sfweekly.com/shookdown/2012/02/lost_in_the_night_haceteria_ke.php

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLcghGwTiSE

Oooh child!

two things jump out at me from that article

it's an attempt by disenfranchised indie rockers and noise musicians to utilize the sound palette and energy of classic house for new ends

fail

We stayed until just the end of his set before catching a cab and making our way towards other destinations at the edge of dawn. (Or, in other words, a truly remarkable set by Roy Davis Jr. at an underground loft in SOMA. You haven't really lived until you've heard an old school Chicagoan work the Rolling Stones' "Miss You" to a packed crowd of house dancers at 5 a.m.)

epic fail

wow, Magic Touch - Clubhouse is really something

i like it a lot! it's a re-edit of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zncX4ckGwfw&

Bopping my own head to Ital's Hive Mind.

http://payload.cargocollective.com/1/0/22489/2277188/ital_cover-cc_905.jpg

excited to hear it but it's going to be hard to live up to that cover

think it does:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzsXFeB3X9w

yea it turns out that's a damn fine ep. i'm finally starting to be able to discern his aesthetic as something besides a piece of the greater 100% silk-package

it's not a full length?

lol, i listened to the 5 songs earlier today but for some reason didn't realize that it qualifies for a full length, considering it's 42 mins of music

that's shorter than some villalobos tracks

and longer than some Beatles albums

i'm finally starting to be able to discern his aesthetic as something besides a piece of the greater 100% silk-package

yeah the record doesnt sound much at all like his stuff on 100% silk. it makes sense that itd be on planet mu, really, and also as i kind of summation of bunch of different things hes been involved in.

Why didn't I listen to Sacred & Profane Love before last week??? So good. Esp. "Gloria". The Ital remix of "A Love So Strong" that Lamp posted too.

anyone heard the new blondes full length or any of the second disc or remixes?

i'm familiar with like half of it, since this is just a comp of their whole yin/yang ep series thing, but i'm still excited to dig into the record as a whole. plus - the assemblage of remixers is pretty damn admirable (jd twitch, john roberts, andy stott, teengirl fantasy, bicep, laurel halo, etc.)

*second disc OF remixes

http://soundcloud.com/igetrvng/sets/blondes-blondes-disc-1/

also - among the list of remixers is one 'robert miles'. i guess i don't know much about that dude outside of his pure moods jam but it is definitely hilarious to see him sitting right alongside andy stott on the track list

i saw ital play tonight. word of whitney houston death somehow did not spread. :'(

I expect to hear Whitney at the bushwick loft party I'm heading to.

I find it funny that the DIY element of this scene is getting talked up (see Ital's interview in P-fork last week). I mean, is there really a 64-track multi-million dollar recording-budget strand of house/techno against which it even makes sense to define something as DIY? Hasn't house always been pretty DIY?

I dunno, aside from most of this stuff striking me as really unsatisfying rhymthically--the same sense I get one someone sings out of tune, but applied to rhythm; or, better yet, maybe the way it feels when someone's dad tries rapping--it also feels somehow embarrassingly irrelevant, like I'm embarrassed for the people producing it. Take something like "Church Song" by Miracles Club--it feels so tentative, yet so un-nuanced at the same time, and that piano riff is just straight-up not in rhythm (but not in an engaging/abrasive enough way to sound cool).

Are we supposed to be impressed that people who maybe went to art school or read challenging books (the Ital photo for the P-fork interview shows him--for Christ's sake--posing in front of a stack of books: Sartre's Being and Nothingness, Levi-Strauss, etc, etc) are now deigning house worthy of their creative dabblings? What is it that they can bring to house that wasn't already there? Experimentalism, or making stuff that sounds a little "fucked up"? Bzzt--acid house was decades ago.

A key element of aesthetic hipsterism has always been considering oneself a bit ahead of the curve, right? It's just sort of embarrassing to see hipster ethos brought to bear on a genre that has basically already beat them at their own game in every possible sense.

I mean, there's "table-top of gear" DIY and there's giant modular synth studio DIY and then there's getting your mouseheads fabricated by jim henson's creature shop or whatever DIY, right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D26U26fFojw&feature=related

guessing Ital's rack is not so robust?

I see where you're coming from, but the expense/expanse of that big setup doesn't exactly negate its DIY-ness, not to mention that I don't think this is remotely the vein of electronic music guys like Ital are trying to tap! Also, one of the ironies of this whole movement is that, with electronic music I'd argue that the cheaper one's setup is often the more slick and shitty it sounds (because the reliance is so heavily on software). And even when the setup involves hardware, chances are these latecomers haven't spent enough time mastering said hardware (the same holds true for software, too). I hate to say something so essentialist/reductionist, but I think the potential charmingness of techinical ineptitude translates much more clearly and with much more nuance via traditional instruments than via software/hardware, so the really DIY/"beginnery" sounding dance music just sounds, well, tentative and off, but not in a "sweetly humanly imperfect" way or something.

lol @ u

I no longer know what point Clarke B is trying to make.

Miracles Club are the wrong sort of DIY because they don't have enough gear? Having seen them play, I can assure you that ableton/laptops are not involved, at least not live.

What they bring to house is what everyone brings to it: new tracks. Plus, with a lot of them: live performance.

(the Ital photo for the P-fork interview shows him--for Christ's sake--posing in front of a stack of books: Sartre's Being and Nothingness, Levi-Strauss, etc, etc)

By 'etc, etc', the queer lit, Shilts and Greider's history of AIDS epidemic, and skullz...

I've seen Miracles Club live as well (with Blondes); I enjoyed the show quite a bit, actually, especially the energy of Miracles Club's performance. I'm just trying to sort through why stuff in this vein doesn't feel like it works all that well for me sometimes. It's not that it's the wrong kind of DIY; it's something about the traditional DIY aesthetic not translating well to the style for me or something. (It's really just trying to intellectualize something I'm not feeling.) I think I'm with Tim way upthread in that I like this stuff better the more it strays from traditional house. I mean, I've always liked noise stuff, and so I really do want to like this. Lamp, I do very much like the Peaking Lights remix thing you posted above.

i just think your asking too much of this music. i mean if you find it 'unsatisfying rhymthically' or uninteresting or even simply tired that seems fair but i dont really get what you 'want' it to be? slavish about 'real house'? or just 'real house'? or is the problem ppl that went to art school?

i think its that they are in photographs

Hey, some of my best friends are art school graduates! That's an interesting question; I'm not sure exactly what I "want" it to be... I wish it felt a little less detached, I guess. There's often a vibe of simultaneous reverence toward trad-house and clinical distance that I find it hard to sink my teeth into. Tim F. mentioned Stereolab way upthread, and I do get that sort of vibe with this stuff. And I've always strongly disliked Stereolab, for that same reason.

kinda otm about clinical distance and stereolab, but i'm interested in how some of these guys develop. i do like a few tracks, though most of it sounds boring to me. i also agree about the silliness of calling this stuff "DIY" as if most underground dance music isn't DIY. as nebulous a label as "hipster" is, i think it describes this stuff better than DIY. i'm curious to hear "hive mind", that cover really is great.

i agree about the DIY thing but people saying stupid things about miracles club doesn't make miracles club stupid.

the point of "church song" is that valet fans who are used to honey's spacey reverbed tripped out multitracked vocals now have a hook to get into a house song

hopefully valet fans can also get into these spacey reverbed tripped-out multitracked vocals

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiGRAbXwvEA

srsly though this thread just keeps going in circles though doesn't it, it's like microhouse all over again

i dig most of the miracle club stuff i've heard

don't really have an opinion on this music but that first clarke b post is fantastic

been listening to more of this stuff lately and was just thinking how dumb and bogged down and inaccurate this thread was in the beginning and yes it has now come full circle.

anyone got any mixes of this stuff?

i like this a lot though it is a bit more conventional: http://www.factmag.com/2012/01/09/fact-mix-311-amanda-brown/

kinda funny that the comments on that mix have a mini-version of the thread argument

whack!
Shitty hipster mix by someone that has no right DJing...like most of FACT's podcasts these days. Hot-for-now-gone-tmrw bands and label A&R's doing too many mixes and real mix artists getting the shaft.

Gary Kelly
What's a real artist? As opposed to an inflatable one?

I'm curious to meet the strawman who likes this strain of house but can't get with more traditional or "proper" stuff. Is there such a person, do you think? Or do you think this music serves / will serve as more of a gateway drug for people that might not have investigated house/techno previously?