Jay-Z / Nas hip-hop throw down? & other throw-downs? Pt. 2: The Saga Continues.

Bob,..........................................never mind.

HAHAHAHAHAHA BOB!!!! that was funny as hell. i especialy like the triple gonna part! damn i didnt know people could stutter over the computer!!!!!

A Qoolout what site do you have? I got one for you it is called Morpheus, it's like the next Napster. I found the "Fuck Beanie" Diss ya man Jadakiss put out. They got that "Super Ugly" diss but I am not sure if you want that. I also found another site called Audiogalaxy, it was not as good as morpheus but it did have that interview where Jay-z appologized to Carmen. That is all I found on there. But morpheus has a lot of stuff. I just downloaded it yesturday and I have downloaded a lot of stuff. You can check it out by going to www.musiccity.com only thing bad about it is that you have to download the system and wait a long ass time for the song to download. But it is a good MP3 site. If you want to get it on a CD though you have to get Winamp. If you have anymore questions you can get at me on here or on my e-mail at the bottom. That audiogalaxy place is www.audiogalaxy.com they do have a few diss songs but not a lot. Plus you might get fustrated with all the shit you gotta download before you even get to download one song. But if you want to try it be my guess!

im offened than a mutha fucka, from your last submit/ how dare you even associate me with that wack ass click/thought we was better than that,on the road to millions/ see you can talk about my mamma, but that shit hurt my feelins//but thats cool you know, i understand and see where you stand/putting someone like me down makes you feel more of a man/talkin bout " i wanna be you " what kinda shit is you smokin?/ somebody stuff insecticide inside that pipe that you totin?//and now im " begging for your BALLS "? i dont understand that/ you got three ADAMS APPLES, nigga, and no nutts in your sack/your manhood is non existant, none,...nilch,....zip,... nano/thats why you brothers' singing bass and you sing first soprano//you aint no leathal injection, nigga, you BARELY a prick/im bout as painfull as the nurse that stuck a Q-tip in ya dick/checkin for Gonorrhea, Syphalis, Clap, AIDS, and Herpes/ you thought it would turn out negeative?, bitch nigga please/ i got you outside on the corner, slanging dick for the fags/ now your dick is diferent colors, and you wanna get mad?//now who's Infected, Rejected,disrespected and lied to?/ i aint make that shit up either, but now who it apply to?/ you keep your New England weather, hope the Pnuemonia dont getcha/and since you wanna change my name,.... how bout we call you,...Hilltisha?//

done.

"spit yo game, talk yo shit, grab yo gat, call yo click, squeeze yo clip,.............but hit the right one"

First off Hillis, if your questioning my race, let me put your doubts to rest... I'm black! Now that we got that out the way, your reference to the colors Purple and Gold, cultural significance aside is gay and i'll tell you why. The Lakers have had the same uniform since they came into the fuckin league. were you blind and now you can see? Was it really worth asking "MESS" if he see's the uniform colors? What do you think? They haven't changed in 40 years dick face..... MESS, your from Queens huh???? You say you got money huh??? does it really matter if your a prick? Personally I think you have no cream at all and you have to post your messages at the local library cause you can't afford a computer of your own. I can't hate you for that.... Keep doing what you do. As far as Bob is concerned, I don't know if he is a real person, somebody's idea of a joke or the product of Hillis and Best's gay relationship. In any case, "Bob" stop it. I'm not going to diss but for your sake and the rest of ours don't try to do that EVER again. Psssssttt. MESS, on the low though, your not NAS. Not even close. So stop trying to make the comparison between the two of you. Do you really have to quote the man in every posting? We all bought the album or at least heard it. Later people.

*sigh* What's a body to do. Two weeks since I silenced Kazper and now Best's surrendered? (And yeah, you did, man. Wise move to recognize that you just can't compete with your repetitive, repetitive slowball lyrics.) And to all who're complaining about the battling, you actin' like it's spam or somethin'. what's wrong with a good ol-fashioned beef?

Hollywood Jaimison, I use Grokster. dont know how it stands up against napster or that other one you mentioned but it has served me well.

did anyone see the Allen Iverson commercial with Jada? ima get me a pair of those...

"I been in this game for years, its made me an animal theres rules to this shit, i wrote me a manual"-Biggie Smalls

Hilltisha?! LMAO!!!

"kazper, didn't you used to call me a sensitive son?/but after reading ya last spit, who's da sensitive one?//pumpkin pie ass nigga, remember when you said ya style was sweet?/eatin them damn words along with ya boyfriend's meat//Squirrel Police said he silenced you; oh, is that true?/then it's obvious you needed to be included with the others in that crew//the filth you rap is smply fit for a pig/the only good thing about your last post was the quote from BIG//pneumonia? please? I'm the Muhammed Ali of this thread/I make medicine sick with these lyrics born in my head//keep talkin that jive, I'ma drop ya in five/lil roach runnin round, better pray you stay alive//label me Tony, kazper, cuz maybe I do sing Soprano/when I empty out the bullets you can hear high-pitched whistling ammo//this thread may be silent, but kazper, you hear me loud and clear/let a packed arena read my lyrics, and the whole crowd will cheer//there's always a chance an STD might get thrown my way/but never from fags, it's young ladies only for H3K//but what about what happens you start fuckin around?/ya ass will get pregnant and soon little roach babies will start crawling on grounds/daddy's emotional daughter, that's kazper at his finest//you're just as lame as Wack Rob, so don't write back whinin//you're slightly better than "Bob": really, only slightly/why don't you battle him cuz you're gonna lose if you fight me//or start a war with lil movenistic, but don't challenge Big Hill/I'm not only an assassin in the lyrical sense; you could literally get killed..."

As The G.O.A.T. asked on his single No More Pain... "Am I reachin yo brain?"

Wack Rob, when I was battling Best, it was a battle of his cutting metaphors versus my lyrical wit. No matter what you preferred, it was at least interesting, and we were always complemented. Nigga, now it's Best's cutting metaphors versus your lyrical shit. You have minimal lyrical skills, and that whole "Best" to "Mess" is pitiful. "The Worst" would have been more creative and even THAT is as plain as day. And Squirrel Police, I ain't got nothin against you, but I don't really be feelin your comebacks. They don't really do nothin; they're just there. I mean you have your moments, but I can actually feel Nchekwube's shit flow. Hell, I feel kazper and Wack Rob's shit flow, even though Rob's lyrics are sub-par, and kazper's disses are basically mine reworked and subsequently KILLED. And wiz, I know you was tryin to get back on Jay/Nas, but you need to come with some mo lyrics. I wanna see what else you got, dawg. Just a few lines, then you can discuss rap. Best, you need 3:16 back, cuz y'all was going back and forth on some good shit. Oh well, them was the days.

Another thing Wack Rob, I gives a fuck about how long the Lakers have been wearing PURPLE and GOLD. The PURPLE and GOLD I'm talking about... Best know what I mean, so don't worry about it. Oh and Best, not to hate, but CRISMON and CREAM? Y'all know that be straight red and white. Add blue and y'all could be a bunch of American flags walking around... lol, you know it's all love here, cuz. Go ahead and be a J.A.P.A.N. It's all love.

Qoolout, remember when I changed Manny's name to Anny? Just fuckin wit ya, cuz.

I'm out like Bill Parcells from consideration for the Bucs job. Peace!

Ah man Hillis that shit is messed up. you aint feelin MY shit? thats alright because im going to blow you away the next post i do. and since we all like to talk about sports on this board how about the ice skating during the olympics? THE CANADIANS GOT THE GOLD METAL THEY DESERVED!!!

Hey steph i understand what you sayin about the board. I never read the wack ass lyrics by kazper, squirel, or that gay ass rob shit. but this is like the thug room, you type somethin stupid, best believe you gonna get clowned and if its about someone expect to be embarassed. BUT it does leave people like me and LOX with nothing to talk about though, Q too i guess.

"Oh my God, it's him!" "Who, who is it?" THE BEST MOTHAFUCKAS!! I would like to say that I'm officially "ON LINE" for Kappa Alpha Psi Fraternity Inc. Alpha Sigma Chapter; Southern University!! Now back to the thread. This is my honest take on every nigga that I've battled here. Starting off with Adrian, dun has mad wordplay(except for when he uses the term "roach") and witty lyrics, and somehow always links/rhymes his bars together nicely(arguably my BEST competition). Next is 3:16, his lyrics are hillarious, but they are also merely average. His verses are always headed in different lyrical directions, meaning that he can spit about something in one bar, and in the next bar talk about something TOTALLY different that doesn't make any sense at all(lacking mad direction, and substance). Then we have "The Policeman", truthfully your flows are understandibly more "advanced" than mine, but they fail to deliver any "crucial" blows to make a nigga go "OOOOHHHH/AAAHHHHH". Also, your flows lack quality metaphors, punchlines, and vicious wordplay that make up decisive battle verses. And last we have "Rob-Breana" Parish....LMAO!! Not to be blatant, but this cat came onto this thread with mad confidence, and for his confidence level to be so high, his lyrics STINK, ya feel me!! If someone would give me a big face for the amount of times wo has said "puss/pussy", "bitch", "I rule you", "I'm the great Rob, you shouldn't battle me"(OOOOOHHHHHH) or for just mispelling simple ass words, I swear I'd be a zillionaire. Kazper and Wiz I apologize for leavin' you niggaz out but this is just my THOUGHT on the peeps that I've battled on this thread.

Now let me address some issues. First off Squirrel, you said that I've "surrendered", dun you've got to be kiddin' me. Nigga I typed it BOLD and clear, that my verse which ended with "GAME OVER" was goin' to be my final one towards you, unless you lace somethin' that is worth replyin' to. But if you still want to "battle me", by all means be my guest.

Next is "Rob-Breana Parish". I see that you didn't comment on those quotes where I have insightful emcees spittin' about thier "clothing and jewels". Oh I get it, you don't have any comment because your lackluster ass didn't know what you were talkin' about to begin with. Also, don't act like you didn't read my previous post? Faggot I asked you a MOTHAFUCKIN' question.....LMAO.....Why the sudden name change or the deletion of "Bre", W-A-S I-T S-O-M-E-T-H-I-N-G T-H-A- T I S-A-I-D.....(illiterate prick)?! And no I don't think I'm Nas. I just use his quotes for a specific situation that I am faced with, and that quote I used in my previous post fit that situation perfectly....once again "I DON'T KILL SOLOISTS, ONLY KILL SQUADS". And for the record, when the Lakers first hit the scene they were called the Minneapolis Lakers, and the colors were blue and white (STUPID NIGGA......Don't you just hate nincompoops who think they know mad facts, but don't know their ass from a hole in the ground)

Dun, let me get the fuck off this PC before my big brother luKKy "yo yo" catches me and forces me to do somethin' I WON'T like doin'. "Noooo, he's leavin!" "Who, who's leavin'?" THE BEST MOTHAFUCKAS!!~1~

"NOPE you can't be like us N.U.P.E.'s"-Klassy One, Fall '00 line "YO, YO"

Y'all shouldn't have even gave cuz a mention... you know who. Big J, yeah I feel you on that but, I guess the board "is what it is." But I'ma try to think of another topic that everybody wants to address. And I can tell you been away because me and H-Wood been discussing the AI flow. You know I was feelin it. H-Wood, I got both of them joints, the Jada one and Jay-Z. Wiz, I'ma address that Pac comment later. Hillis, you got jokes? LOL, remember when I ran that other youngin off the thread (he gets no name shout out). Don't Po Po cuz be having y'all laughing? I'm outta here, but I'll be back.

I aint know Rob had mentioned my name……thanx for telling me. This ones for you rob.

I told them dudes/I attack the weak niggas like colds and flu’s/rob called out my name/he’s already actin insane/b4 my lyrics go to his head,steady hacking his brain/this stupid lame nigga/2-Bit brain nigga/you and Bob hang together/I geuss you know what they say about birds of a feather/(they flock together)/Rob I can tell you write rymes/but mine are too complex for your cellulite mind/you should never hate/you mental feather-weight/get off my dick before I devastate/your entire state/my bars are too long for you/Mr “Pre- school mentality” I am too strong for you/go play with your dildo/on the real though/my lyrics lyrically kill slow/you shoulda read the thread before you started the beef/you watch MTV now you think you street/your ass need to go back to humpin sheep/your shit aint strong it be obsolete/trynna learn to sing before you learn to speak/as for spelling,you’re wack you punk/your rimes a “rob” spelt back to front/that is bor (e)/and whats more/you front like your ass is hardcore/whats the score/you don’t use the name you had before/coz niggas dissed it,you cant even stand up for your name/niggas like u just end up getting fucked for some change/you for fuckn lame/upcharge getting fucked hard with the wizards broomstick/now shutup and go to your room quick…..

---catch shock when l heard the news that,this little nigga ready for war,well where that fool at------

what the fuck man? where my respects at? that chucky cheese whore Best is going to have hell to pay for not recongnizing my skills you treehugger!

I mean BOB

BOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I almost forgot! Rob im trying to help YOU out man because I see your skills arent quite up to mine but if we combine forces not one person on this board could stop us dude. just thank about. and Hillis you you dollar tree shopping son of a bitch! dont make me have to attack you too WHODI

My bad, Bob. I will never doubt your superior skill again. I bow down to the almighty Boob! Best, I suggest you do the same! Qoolout, no one is safe! Big J, Boob is mad as hell and he's not gonna take it anymore! J-Dolo, watch out! LOX, stay alert! Steph, he doesn't discriminate! Hollywood, go warn Second Sage! Boob and Wack Rob will reign down lyrical terror worse than Hell itself!!!

I'm out like someone scared of Boob. Peace!

Aw Hillis, yous crazy. I told y'all not to give this man a mention. See? Anyway, here is the topic for everybody to address, new people, regulars, battlers and non battlers, etc.: Mary J. Blige asked to be taken off of Stillmatic. I heard that she didn't want to get caught up in the beef (I don't know if this is really the reason). However, she never asked to be removed from Jay's MTV CD. Anyone with some info, bring it. My 2 cents... she likes Jay more than Nas and wanted to show some type of loyalty; just my theory. Okay...discuss.

Damn Her

Not necessarily a diss, but y'all get the picture...

"Black hoes, white hoes, all the ladies love me/the kingpin is here, and only God is above me//despite all of my sins, only God can judge me/I'm just too rugged, like the game of rugby//you BOOBS can't touch me, y'all shit is for toddlers/H3K is prime rib, while y'all cats is strictly peach cobbler/unlike Bob, "Hope" won't follow ya name/cause you'll be finished as soon as I make you swallow them thangs//hot ones reachin all types of ligaments and nerves/I escape in a candy painted big body, I get in it and swerve//I leave the scene spotless, no evidence in sight/all you demons back up, I been heaven sent to fight//"I AM THAT I AM" sent me here to do damage/so run away from the set when I start swinging them hammers/or blastin the cannons, droppin bombs that be nuclear/FLATTEN all my opponents leavin em with no future, uh!/WACK niggas come in here with they corny ass verses/take them shits to hell with you cause y'all leavin in hearses//EMOTIONAL DAUGHTERS clutch ya purses, I'm the realest nigga breathin/have you cryin louder than little babies when teethin..."

Hmmm. Maybe it was a diss.

Yo, Qool-eezy! I don't know about MJB, but I do know that she's trippin. What goes on between Nas and Jay is between Nas and Jay. I mean I know many people who got Blueprint and Stillmatic. They ain't involved in the beef, they just wanted to enjoy two tight ass albums. So MJB could just do collabos with two tight MCs. If she is swayin towards Jay, I understand because Jay's style is more fitted to something MJB would do. Speakin of MJB and Jay, I know y'all remember "Can't Knock The Hustle?" If you ain't peeped it, peep it. It's on Reasonable Doubt, and is personally my second favorite song ("Feelin It" is my favorite). Also, back to Nas and Jay, I be feelin a lot of wizzard's comments (maybe cause I like Jay more???). That nigga Nas is boring. And I still believe this beef with Jay is simply cuz he wants to boost Stillmatic and bring up his image. But wiz, that shit about Pac as a ballerina? I mean, I heard he went to school to dance and shit, but that means nothing when comparing Pac to other RAPPERS! He's still the best nigga ever on the mic!

Best, I felt your assessment of the battling on this board. As a man, I can say I learned a lot from your style. Battling you definitely improved my lyrics. I can say that when we first started battling I was trying to be more funny than anything, while your lyrics were (for lack of a better word) angry. But I definitly noticed that you loosened up a bit more and started clownin niggas, and I believe you got that from me, kind of like my lyrical wordplay stepped up, and I got that from you. I ain't gonna comment on any other niggas cuz I'm still in the process of battling them. But Best, you're a good man, even if you are on line to be a Nupe... I'm slightly jealous because I was supposed to be online to be an Omega this semester, but my dumbass slipped up last semester and didn't make my grades. I have a 2.4 and you have to have a 2.5. My boys are on line, and it's gonna be tough watching them come out, but oh well. I fucked up. I'll do it grad chapter, and maybe go through the undergrad pledge process just to go through everything all the other bruhs went through.

All right, I'm bout to dip. My 4-0 intramural b-ball team gotta game here in a few. Our name is "Ether." How you love that? We play some football cats, so I know it's gon be rough. Before I go, I say Jordan will be back in the Top 5 players in the league when the season ends. And he's definitely in the Top Ten now. Like my man Q said, discuss.

Q, I ain't got jokes. But tell the truth, you like how I was the first in here representin DC, right?

I'm out like the Bulls for playoff contention. Peace!

What the fuck was she thinking

S'up Big J. Umm the MJB thing...don't make much sense to me...and how could she get taken off an album anyway, what's the point once hundreds of thousands of people own it already? Or did she want to before...? Hmmm..

More than a million people. and i just noticed something about this board. all the new people that have came here (with the exception of wizzard) have came here for no reason other than to battle with Hillis and Best. the fuck is that? oh well they are paying for it. and Bob! what the hell are you on son! hahahahaha

Yeah, i guess mary j is more loyal to jay-z than nas, or that Jay-z is using money as a form of persuassion,but like Steph says, what's the point when there's already a million plus people that have the album already wit the song? what up vets? Hillis and Best, i've been readin da posts and verse for verse, no one else comes close to ya, wit da closest bein Rob (Had to throw dat one in there Best, just to make u angry. i've noticed your raps be killers when u mad. LOL!) LOX, u still here. WHat up Q? Steph, what up? 3:16 (what??!), and Big J. D-BLOCK IS DA SHIT!!! My bad for sounding too enthusiastic but i am a big Jadakiss fan. Will always treasure the Jada vs Beanie disses.Styles vs Freeway?? That should be hot too. Speaking of ROC, Memphis has been silent. He must be concentratin on his third LP. Lord knows he need all the concentration he could get. Well I'm out like Dale Earnhardt Jr in the Daytona 500. Peace!!

Oh Yeah, SHOUT OUT TO MY NIGGA LOX, WIT THA ALL OUT CAP LOCK STYLE!!!!

I've come to the realization that, naw, I guess my last couple of responses _weren't_ up to my par, though still far superior than anything my opponent could come up with. Anyway, here's ya go Best, few more lines for you to chew on:

Best, you Game's Over, my shit's too weak for responses? stay in the/
closet, that posit shows you tied up like bondage/
I fried you like omelets, break free from yo ego and see/
the ob-vious, you only average, on par with the pop-a-luss/
bad taste; ALL EYES is averted when you cut and paste/
ALL LIES when you squirted y'all was "best" in the place/
Y'ALL DIE when I Heston ya face
so run that bitch-ass out, step up the pace/
I gave you chances, too many strikes to count/
But y'all no-pants wolfdance is _always_ strikin' out/

Burning cheeks, ashamed at what you typin' out that ass/
Naw, don't reply to this, y'all way too collapsed/
that's like Anthrax package signin' shit - go on, protect ya ass/
Now that y'already wrecked n' crashed, what little's left of it/
The world knows that I broke your back, just make the "Best" of it/
Stay down, pop back up an' I'll make you pieces rest in shit/
"Where's the rest of it?" that's plenty, my verses slick, worth twenty/
Smooth as a crime, you swallow all these Brylcreem rhymes/
You confess I'm more "advanced," guess every toilet clean sometimes/

Here's where I ask for some trouble.

Finally heard "Ether" a couple of days ago - the ass end of it, really. Sounded just like ass, though - stiff rhymes, lame copy of "Takeover"'s beat, and about as enjoyable as a dentist shoving a drill straight into a cavity without the painkillers. Stiff as a board.

The fact that Nas is actually still in the Top 20, while _The Blueprint_ languishes near #100 on the charts ... that's just a damn shame. Never mind the video for "Got Ur Self..." - damn if I know what the hell's going through his mind w/ that.

David the originator makes a visit. I can see you are a little late on things with just listening the Ether. But I have to disagree with you on your opinion, I guess that you were making a comparison to the Takeover. That is fine, but you expected too much from a song diss. Nas is not at his lyrical best when he dissing somebody. Yes the song had catchy lines in my opinion. But Nas as a poet is not a person who is trying to diss someone. The beat didn't sound like even a close composite of Takeover. I fell that Ether had more effect than Takeover also. Look at where Jay-z fans stand now? I looked at the whole stuation from a subjective point of view from both sides when the Takeover came out and when Ether came out. Takeover was a good laugh, and that was the best diss Jay put out. Because he had held most of that antamosity (Speeled wrong) for about 3 years and he spilled all that heat out on one song. But Nas held that in for 5 years +plus. And he spilled it out on H to the Omo and Ether. The public saw the beef go mainstream with the takeover song. But people opened their eyes with Ether. You can tell just by reading the post on the old thred from August to late December. Most Jay fans had good arguments, and put up good points, but after the Ether, the most loyal Jay fans started to relize what was going on. Some decided to do different things, some just repeated wht they said when takeover came out. Some still remained confident on paper put even through the lines of the computer you could tell doubt was in thier mind. Some came with inmmature comments (Should I remind everyone a few examples of what the said......I think not) And other remaind quiet and dissapired. That had people think more. You have your opinions about Ether but for me this what I saw, and the effects that it had. I know I have talked too much already, but just to comment on the MJB disscussion. I don't think MJB is showing favortism, but I think where she is going with her carrer right now, she is trying to change. Remember she did take out her song she did with Lenny Kravits and Jay-z on her new album so it was not just Nas. But she said herself she is trying to remain positive in her music. I guess she is striving for that goal by taking her likness of of song that exemptlify negative themes. That is what I think.

LOL, Hollywood you spoke the truth right there. David, if memory serves me correctly, you started the old Jay/Nas thred. Well...you made it a hot topic, we made it a hot thread. Yeah H-Wood took it over, you wasn't repin' it right! LOL, naw I'm just joking wit ya. But to respond to your state of confusion: 1st of all, I like both Jay-Z and Nas. However, from my point of view, Jay is not a GREAT rapper; I think you believe otherwise and that's your right. Blueprint contains songs like "Girls Girls Girls," "Izzo" etc. Why should it be anywhere near the top 10 or 20? It shouldn't if you ask me. That CD had a few good songs on it, but it is not the classic that "so called rap fans" say it is. You just heard Ether? LOL, well I'm guessing you haven't heard the rest of the CD. Go listen to it if you have access and maybe you'll see why it is where it is, but to make the comment you made without even listening to it...I don't know. J Dolo, I'm not really feelin' Freeway so I won't get my hopes up to high about cuz and his battles. What about Jae Hood? Hillis, yeah I did like how you started that, but I know you liked what I did more, how I started the flowing on here; look what I started, lol. Thanx to all who said their piece on MJB, keep it comin'.

My bad yall! I made too many spelling mistakes in that thred so I am about to correct it right here so you guys can understand it better. I hate the fact you cannot edit the messages on here but anyway here is the edited version of that last post.

David the originator makes a visit. I can see you are a little late on things with just listening the Ether. But in the reponce to you comment about Ether, I have to disagree with you on your opinion. I guess that you were making a comparison to the Takeover and how it messures up. That is fine, but you expected too much from a diss song. Nas is not at his lyrical best when he dissing somebody or devoting a whole track to someone. Yes the song had catchy lines in my opinion, but Nas as a poet is not a person who is trying to diss someone. The beat didn't sound even close to the "Takeover". I feel that Ether had more effect than Takeover also. Look at where Jay-z fans stand now? I looked at the whole situation from a subjective point of view from both sides when the Takeover came out, and when Ether came out. Takeover was a good laugh, and that was the best diss Jay put out so far. Because he had held most of that anamosity for about 3 years and he spilled all that heat out on one song for three people. But Nas held that in for 5 years +plus. And he spilled it out on H to the Omo and Ether. The public saw the beef go mainstream with the Takeover song. But people opened their eyes with Ether. You can tell just by reading the post's on the old thred from August to late December. Most Jay fans had good arguments, and put up good points. But after the Ether diss, the most loyal Jay fans started to relize what was going on. Some decided to do different things, some just repeated what they said when takeover came out. Some still remained confident on paper put even through the lines of the computer you could tell doubt was in thier mind. Some came with inmmature comments (Should I remind everyone a few examples of what they said......I think not) And others stayed quiet and dissapired. That song had people think more about the lyrics more so than the beat to the song. You have your opinions about Ether but for me this what I saw, and the effects that it had on both sides. I know I have talked too much already, but just to comment on the MJB disscussion. I don't think MJB is showing favortism, but I think where she is going with her carrer right now, she is trying to change. Remember she did take out her song she did with Lenny Kravits and Jay-z on her new album so it was not just Nas. But she said herself she is trying to remain positive in her music. I guess she is striving for that goal by taking her likeness off of songs that exemptlify negative themes. That is what I think.

This what my local public school system does to kids like me. But I think I am one of the few that has survived! Well as you can see by my first post the public school syndrome still has it's effect on a soon to be collage........I mean college student! See what I mean? Anyways I am sorry if any of you did not understand that first post.

WHAT!?!

Oh My GOD!!!!!

Whats this?

Damn business is picking up...

The Return of the Mack...

3:16 is BACK in the HEEZAY!

Y'all miss me.... ...Damn! 3 weeks away and what the fuck happens up on here? We get some dude called boob turn up, and then we get some damn crazy squirell puh-lease muthafucker come along for the ride. Were you trying to take my spot.

"and y'all want to take my spot and run with it/thats cool I was the first one with it" - Jay-Z

listen squirell-boob, cos i'ma say this ONCE.... ....WHAT!?!

Shit, have any of y'all heard Bubba Sparxxx actually freestyle. The boy got game, and I dont even like him! Damn!

I'm keepin this first post back nice and short, so as not to intimidate all of the young blood up on here, and i'm feelin rough after last night anyways. Some dude smacked me in the head in MY nightclub! Now I got a nice little cut under my left eye! Shit! y'all know I had to whoop his ass though right... HAHA!

Shout out to all the vets up here, you know you got love in the UK! Qoolout, J-dolo, Hollywood, H3K, Steph, LOX and everyone else.

But shit, before I forget, BEST! HAHA! don't think I forgot you kid!!! after looking at you last post (an ode to moi) I thought that might of been the end of it, but then i saw further down the thread that you "dissmissed" me???????????? WOAH! Hold the fuck up! Fuck this shit, I thought I wasn't gonna do this, but there will be a nice couple of verses arriving tomorrow!

"UH-OH! I got myself a gun!"

Peace

LMAO! H-Weezy, you trippin. You know you ain't had to redo that. Niggas been mispellin shit since day one. My all caps usin ass nigga LOX been done said this thread ain't no muthafuckin spelling bee. And I understood you first time, cuz. Well, antamosity was a little tough to swallow, but... Anyway, you still "qool" with me. Speaking of "qool," I'm thinkin I should change my name to "Hillout..." That would be tight! I bet I would be the first person on here to have a name like that! Moving right along, is the REAL David Raposa standing up?! H-Wood the Originator versus David the Originator hip-hop thread throw down???!! I ain't feelin D-Rap's assessment of Ether and Takeover because true, Ether and Takeover sound nothing alike, but I also don't think Ether made people rethink who was better. I have heard Ether, and I still believe Jay is ten times better than Nas, and his "fans" that come in here and say "Jay has the most money" may be full of shit, but Jay still has the record sales, and Nas still has Nastradamus and I Am, which all y'all know SUCKED! And even though Izzo and Girls, Girls, Girls are formula, Izzo still has some good lyrics and Girls is comical in a good way. Blueprint is still better than Stillmatic in my opinion, but I like Jay better so it's whatever.

I'm out like David Raposa was from this thread until that last post. Peace!

Shit, after looking at some of the posts in greater detail (you really got to do that with some of the shits!) these "new kids on the thread" lines are real REAL poor... DAMN! Its like Squirell gets Princess Superstar (damn that girl must be afraid of the gym) to ghost! Some of y'all would find it hard rapping against p.diddy's mom (she calls him Sean). TYSON WILL GET BEAT BY LENNOX, no matter where the fight is...

Peace

You know what, I dont want to wait until tomorrow...

...Verse one starts out with the crowd going wild/shit is easier than robbing Back the illegitimate child/Best, you gonna be remembered like Chesney Hawkes/you know Chesney right? Nah thats what I thought/You should bounce like a bull frog cos I bite like a pit bull/i'm laughin cos you empty, you cryin cos i'm full/i'm like Wyatt Earpp cos shit dont graze me/never thought this would happen, my own shit done amaze me/tell the rest Back, you sleep with a glock in your bed/but your gun is plastic, a real one is pointed at your head/one false move, like a bra you lined with lead/one false line then i'll use wisdom instead/Dead or alive kid, you coming with me/cos i'm a killer for money but I would kill you for free

The comic relief verse, i know y'all waiting, is verse two/you spat some lines at me, I fire rhymes at you/rhyming so cold i gave the internet the flu/now you need more encouragement like your name was Scooby-Doo/Like cruise missles i destroy intercontinentally/twist round Diddy's writer, MY car, YOUR Bentley/whenever you rhyme Best you rhyme too gently/thats why i'm still here, thats why Tony sent me/YOU'RE NOT WELCOME ANYMORE, they the words of Gloria/So Backs demise was met with world wide euphoria/you more brocolli than brolik, they sell you in the grocery stor-ia/now thats not even a word, but i'm the hip hop auditor/classic rhyme how'd you figure/cos you back Nas and I back jigga/it dont matter i'll still hit ya/imaginary friends dont like you so you got an imaginary sister/but she stopped talking to you so you hired ME to twist her

Verse three, I stopped playin'/start slayin'/HA HA! UK-ing/stright spittin'/Great Britain/you're like the Pentagon, World Trade Centre gets the glory/but the plane that crashed in Queens was aimed at your third storey/I know you feel my shit, dont pretend you ignore me/I read my own rhymes because yours just bore me/like Tyson you build up but you cant deliver/so I destroy from within like alcohol to your liver/determination of a bull dog, play my national anthem/GOD SAVE THE QUEEN, but queens called Best you know i stamp 'em/From the start to the end, all you said, is a lie/heres another UK export; YOU ARE THE WEAKEST LINK... GOODBYE!!!!!!!!

"Straight spittin'/Great Britain" - 3:16

HAHAHAHAHA! Laugh my Damn AO! "more brocolli than brolik"!!!!!!!! HAHAHA!!! "Imaginary friends dont like you"!!!!!! HAHA!

Right, thats it, thats THE END.

Squirrell, you God Damn rodent. I suggest you invest in the all new Rhymerator 2000. You need it...

Do any of y'all think that Nas might be trying to emulate 2pac by imitating him in his video, shouting him out in his songs, and now rolling with Suge? hmmm...

DAMN its good to be back!

Peace

I said I am gonna fuck him up so he bent over/then I struck a match/ and set fire to the hair up his ass/I am the type that piss in the bottle of Remmy before I pass/then watch you drinkin as I struggle to stifle a laugh/niggas keep talking/I still whip ya ass even when I am sleep walking/I am trynna rule the world like nas on it was written/some of you cats is kittens/so I leave ya asses shittin/coughin up blood on my keyboard from the barbs I am spittin/I react with speed when you mention my name,/lyrical flame thrower every sentence is flames/go ahead and fuck with me it wouldn’t be very wise/I am ready to commit murder in front of your very eyes/and bury guys in the sand like moses did/like my man jay-z… I am focused kid./you can analyse my shit and you wont find no flaws/though I type my shit faster than you rime yours/competition’s dead but I still rime with no cause/100 bars a minute,never stutter or pause/fuck the laws/I kick down doors/and break niggas jaws/step on ya toes,sorry dawg I mean step on ya paws/leave you downloading last night’s dinner into your draws/I am heard above the applause and shouts of encore/I know you aint feelin this coz I made you numb/I struck your central nervous system and I made you dumb/cut off both your thumbs/ and stuffed em into your ear-drums/have you fallin over your feet like too much red rum/I had friendly ghosts on my dick hopin to drink my cum/stickin to it like candy stickin to your gum…….ummmm…gotta go duneees.

Well, see, that's the thing - I don't know much about the Jay-Z / Nas beef @ all, which is why I posted the question originally. Of course, if all this is detailed in the first thread, then I should get my ass over there and read up. (The volume of posting in that thread scared me off, I'll admit.)

Please also note that my Nas knowledge is limited to "Got Ur Self...", some other singles, a small bit of _Illmatic_, and that's about it. Meaning any opinions I have might not be the most researched opinions offered on this subject, for damn sure.

See, ima use a quote from a song on GTA3 Rap radio station

"Its like the NBA Summer League, The pros against the wannabes"

and yall know who the pros are ha. and bob, im still waiting on your glorious comeback son!

Hillout, LOL. And remember when you started repin' for Beyonce'? Welcome back 3:16, sup? Hey Hillis, did you here about Tyson gettin his license? And guess who gave it to him...our home town D.C. I guess they were like, "We did worse here, so why not give it to him?" Big J, how far did you get? What up Steph? Girls X3 was stupid, simply put. I'm out like not inside. H3K likes how I started that.

LMAO @ Qoolout! Why we some damn fools, cuz? I don't even know. But I tell you what, DC has been known for some "only in America" type shit. Remember one of your mayors? "Smoke crack, got his job back. If you get caught smoking crack at McDonald's, you can't get your job back..." Chocolate City, y'all "qool" with me for allowin Tyson to fight there. I can't wait to see Lennox Lewis and Iron Meezy get down and dirty. And speakin of Great Britain, it's good to see 3:16 back! What up wit your bloody self?! I know you seen all these wankers in here tryin to out do you, so I know you gotta rep the UK, right? Right?! Mos def you do! That shit about Chesney Hawkes (who the fuck is Chesney Hawkes?) had me rollin! The Best, I anxiously await your reply and for this lyrical war to begin all over again! And I got no beef with Squirrel Police, either, but Squirel "Puh-lease" was funny as hell, too. Squirrelpeezy, you gon have to come back with sumthin, too! Business bout to pick up, folks! Big J, I know you just like me...can't wait for "Boob" to make his comeback cuz it'll be good... Good 'n' terrible... Sorry, stole that from "Coming To America." All right, I gotta go network with some professionals so maybe I can get a job in the media (RUN! IT'S THE MEDIA!!!) so I'm bout to dip. But before I go, I want y'all to tell me what y'all think about Jordan. Top 5 in the league? Top 10? What y'all think. I say Top 5. Big J, I know you got sumthin to say on the subject so holla back. You, too, Qool, Choclate City representin. Another thing, Best, tell Big Brother Nupe to stop whuppin that ass! Just fuckin with you, cuzzin.

I'm out like Sideshow Bob from the Krusty the Klown Show. Peace!

Ah Jordan, a topic i have spoken about many of time.

See, earlier in the year on a sports message board i joked how they would give Jordan the mvp and Doug Collins the coach of the year. but now people are saying the same thing but not joking about it. It dont make sense to me. Jordan can have good games but over the last four games he has been shooting 37.7 percent and has been getting like 11-20 points game or something like that. I always hear people talkin bout how he makes everyone around him better, sorry you must have mistaken him for Kidd because i dont even think Jordan is the high man in assist on his team. yeah i know hes probably tought his teamates a whole bunch but still. If you cant go out there and do at least one thing good, you aint no damn MVP. I know everyone has bad games and hes got alot of pressure on him but everyone saying hes the mvp is crazy.

If I had to choose the top five players jordan wouldnt be in it maybe top 10 or 20. Not including Kidd they would go like this...

1. I want to say AI but its Kevin Garnett- Would have had the MVP at the All-Game if it wasnt for Kobe being a damn hog (philly fans are the best) Hes not selfish with the ball and he can play any posision and block.

2. Tim Duncan- playing like a pansy recently but averages a double- double almost every night.

3. Allen Iverson- Amazing how he gets to the basket but if he keeps on going down there and gettin banged up his career will end early. Leads in scoring, steals, minutes and unfortunatly, TURNOVERS.

4. Kobe Bryant- Dont like him too much (BOOOOOOO!!!) but its like he can turn it up anytime he wants but his defense is waaaaay overrated.

5. Vlade Divac- Nah im just playin its Tracey McGrady- HES the one with the amazing defense and offense but too bad that bum Grant Hill is always fuckin injured.

Honorable mentions- Chris Webber, Vince Carter, Ray Allen, and ME

You may have noticed how i left Shaq out of that. the reason is simply...I hate him....hate him very much oh so much and plus 80% of the time he pushes people out of the way and dunks(ahh i know Hillis dont wanna hear that) and plus he shoots like 51-56% from the free throw line! that has to tell you something and the dumbass missed a wide open punch on that white dude! what the fuck man?

"Hurt Kobe? BOOO!! Sit down. Face it, Philly aint yours"-Me

"Im like Vince Carter from the baseline, dont waste my time"-?

"Hockey Sucks"-Me and 5 billion other people

HILLIS that was messed up using boob as my name because i messed up!! what is wrong with you dawg? i didnt want to have to do this but here we go!

yeah uh

Hillis moms is a crackhead HA/I know because i cought em both in the bed HA/keep talking hillis and ima crack you in the head with one of the led pipes HA/Best is scared of this beef HA/hes knows im the chief his african ass aint got no teeth HA/me and Rob runnin this board HA/i saw big j playing ball and he couldnt even catch a lob HA/i showed him hows its done and he started to sob HA/Bobs the shit HA/and hillis,bigj,and best aint nothing but tricks HA/they suck HA/and this motherfucker 3:16 aint much better HA/ima take over the board/slay all of you whores/and you know im the lord!

you a dick chaser got that mans pants on fire remaining a fag til the moment you expire you know what it is to make cumming out of something you handle that dick and dont be crying and huffing when its in your ass

you cant do nothing but love me HA/you all waiting for me to return HA/i take care of you niggers with no concern HA/when will you people learn HA/best mad cuz i drilled his skinny ass mom HA/she showed me all kinds of styles HA/and i didnt use a condom HA/i should have though because that shit was rotten HA/bitch is to blame for these crab i have gotten Ha/i went up in your room and saw a mc hammer poster on your wall HA/she showed me the tapes of you dancing like him in talent shows HA/but that didnt last long because she started to blow again HA/that pussy was so wide i could stick my whole head in it HA/i cumed on your bed HA/you heard me thats what i said HA/your dad came home HA/he wanted to join and thats when i had to leave HA/oh and one more thing HA/your moms pussy hair was long enough to braid HA/more like dreadlocks HA/speaking of dreadlocks she looked like the preditor HA/i even said it to her

you a dick chaser got that mans pants on fire remaining a fag til the moment you expire you know what it is to make cumming out of something you handle that dick and dont be crying and huffing when its in your ass

so how was that you bitches? next time keep your mouth shut and next time i wont go medivel on your asses!!!

and bigj we all know that jon stockton is the best right now and the greatest of all time dumb fuck.

Big J, I'm glad you responded. Now you know I don't agree with a few things, but most of it was backed up with some good shit, so I am at least feelin ya. But here go my Top 5 players in the league...

1. SHAQUILLE O'NEAL - he pushes people around and dunks? Come on, now. That's like faulting Wilt the Stilt for being 7'0" and dunking on people 6'8" and 6'9." Shaq was BLESSED to be 7'2" 300+ lbs. Sure enough he can't shoot free throws. But seriously, ask any coach who they would love to build a team around, and if he doesn't say SHAQ, he should be fired. SHAQ may be limited, but if he plays within those limits NOBODY (meaning anyone who has ever set foot on a court) could stop SHAQ. Nobody! Hack-A-SHAQ was a nice try, but when it comes down to it, it doesn't work cuz Shaq steps up and hits free throws when needed. In conclusion, you can hate SHAQ for using more bulk and build than actuall skills, but point blank, no one has a bigger impact on his teammates and the other team's strategy than Diesel. And you can whine about offensive fouls or walking if you want to, if they don't call it, then he must not be doing it. Big J, you said you play post. You know about going strong to the basket. If you're much bigger than the guy guarding you, then it may LOOK like an offensive foul, but really you just have more power than the guy guarding you. That's not an offensive foul. That's just basketball, baby. If you can't guard him, then get out the NBA.

2. KEVIN GARNETT - when you hear Minnesota Timberwolves, you think Kevin Garnett. Maybe some of us NBA heads think "Zer-bee-ack" or Brandon, but any regular joe knows KG is the Minnesota Timberwolves. Plus, as Big J pointed out KG is a legitimate threat at any of the 5 positions on the court. 3 or 4 are where he would best flourish, but KG as 2 or 5 is a lot more effective than many of the other 2s or 5s aound the league. And he would be a great 1 for a lot of teams out there. And remember, KG has been doin it with minimal help for the longest, and let's not forget the Joe Smith fiasco. KG is a model for basketball's future: 6'10" with ultimate versatility. That's why he's #2 on MY list.

3. KOBE BRYANT - defense overrated or not, his offense is best out of all 2 guards in the league. Sure, T-Mac, Vince, Ray, AI all have great O-skills, too, but AI is the only one who has the will to win like Kobe's. T-Mac and Vince are great but they are not the clutch player Kobe is. With Shaq out, he definitely still takes over and plays exquisitely. With Shaq in, he can smoothly adapt his game to the situation. Kobe is also mentally stronger than all the 2 guards in the league, with the exception of AI. "H3K, why isn't AI #3, then?" I'll explain that later, but Kobe is definitely #3 in the league.

4. MICHAEL JORDAN - look at the fuckin Wizards of now, and the Wizards of a year ago. Now, the evidence is plain and simple. The greatest player the game has ever known has comeback from a THREE- YEAR HIATUS and still has these Wizards playoff bound, possibly Finals bound (it's the East). That's what I call impact. Jordan has some of the most no name, third string niggas steppin up they game like crazy. Rip Hamilton? Popeye FUCKING Jones? Jahidi White? Are you serious? These niggas wasn't talkin about shit, but now Jordan got em killin niggas. Yeah, his percentages are down, and his #s aren't that great, but look at the Wiz. They are WINNING! And not just against lame squads. They beat afully healthy King squad, and they've blasted the Nets, and more. Point blank, Jordan is the biggest impact player the game has known, and with the exception of SHAQ, he still is today.

5. JASON KIDD - what the FUCK where the Suns thinking?! Anybody who thought the Suns had something let me know why you think that and what the hell where you smoking. Jason Kidd makes EVERYBODY he comes in contact around him better. The only reason he isn't #1 is because he can't take over games all by himself, like the first 4 can. But seriously, everybody in Nets management deserves free head (all the women get they puss eaten) for a full year on that one.

6th Man Award: ALLEN IVERSON - replace AI's name for Kobe's name in all the things I said about "Kobe Wan Kenobi." Now why isn't AI #3? I love AI to death (that lil nigga got heart for the whole NBA to borrow), but I do not believe he would be as beneficial to other teams like he is for Philly. I mean, Philly has no other offense other than AI, so AI is justified in jackin up 40 shots but only hittin 15. But take that nigga out of Philly, and I think his impact would diminish.

Honorable Mention: C-WEBB and TIMMY D - C-Webb is the best PF in the league but I think he's more of a "part" of the Kings than the "heart" everyone wants him to be. He definitely makes the Kings better, but not like Kidd and Jordan make everyone else better. Webber doesn't actually make the Kings step up their own individual games (as seen when they were swept buy the Lakers) he just adds an inside presence to an already good team. He's like Shaq downsized to PF status, except C-Webb is stoppable. Duncan is in the same boat as C-Webb, he's just not as good. Great fundamental player who can hold his own, but the Spurs don't get better INDIVIDUALLY from playing with him. Dunc is easily replaced by another 20-10 guy. But these two definitely are in the top 10.

Guy I can't help but cheer for: DIRK NOWITSKI - the name and the fact he's a 7'0" white foreign guy with mad game does it for me

Guy I hate and so does everybody else: KARL MALONE - who likes this guy?

Big J, we may not agree, but you definitely wrote some good stuff. It's all opinion, cuz. 3:16, wassup wit ya? Qoolout! It's ya boy, Hillout! The Best, have them Nupes made you stay off the grass yet? J- Dolo, what's the biz? H*WOOD, it's all good in the hood! Wiz! Keep comin wit da lyrics. You, too, Squirrel Polizzle. Steph, it's real in the field. Kazper, you're still a friendly BITCH! Boob, you suck! Wack Rob AKA Gonna Get SMACKED Rob AKA Finna Get JACKED Rob AKA Might Have His Eye BLACKED Rob...

I'm out like wild. Peace!

LOL! LOL! LOL! LMAO! LMAO! LMAO! LOL! LOL! LOL! LMAO! LMAO! LMAO! Bob, that was the funniest shit HANDS DOWN I have ever seen on this thread. This was only the 5th time I ever laughed out loud at somethin on here, and that shit had me rollin the longest. Dead serious, if you actually thought that was a tight rap, you're sadly mistaken, HA! But if you were trying to be funny, you definitely succeeded and igive your props. You're still a BOOB, but at least you have a sense of humor. Best line? "I saw Big J and he couldn't even catch a lob HA! I showed him how and he started to sob HA!" Big J, that shit don't fade you any, but it was pure comedy. LOL! LOL! LOL! LMAO! LMAO! LMAO! LOL! LOL! LOL! LMAO! LMAO! LMAO!

I'm out like take. Peace!

Wassup people, ive been comin to this thread for the past 3 months and ive posted maybe twice....first off, BOB, your a fuckin idiot, that was the worst rhyme i have ever heard in my entire life, you need to cut that HA bullshit out.....Anyways, all you other cats, keep up the good work, you guys got mad lyrics, except that fuck ass bob... im out!!!

"But wait! There's more!"

Hockey does suck.

"Oh my God, it's him!" "Who, who is it ?" THE BEST MOTHAFUCKAS!!

Aiyo, I have a question, why do people say "I Am" sucks? Honestly, to me that joint is mad tight. Also, why do niggaz call "I Am" and "Nastradamus" "commercial garbage" because both of those lp's have meaningful tracks with messages. Before you answer that question make sure you know the difference between a "commerical" joint and a "radio friendly" joint because that is where I think some of you niggaz go wrong in thinkin' shyt is commerical. Aw damn wo, look who's back in this piece.......the British dude. I thought I got rid of your Seal lookin' ass dun. Well I see you still want to battle here it is. Aiyo, Check it:

I create dialogue like a soap opera drama/ you've returned, and still PAUSED on my cock like a comma/ When we first disputed you DASHed out faster than DAMON/ Now your lyrical recess is over, it's time to stop playin'/ Ima straighten you out with my words of precision/ discontinue everything, this calls for all your attention/ listen closely, do like Pippen, play and stay in your position/ or feel the wrath from your FATHERS mad verbal ass whippen'/ wipe the tears from ya cheeks, I battle only for fun/ but in reality my son, I hope "U GOT URSELF A GUN"/ indication from ya posts shows I'm still in ya head/ "Destroy all the Brits" is what George Washington' said!!/ and Squirrel Police you're over, I'm battlin' "Steven" instead/ no frontin', it's good to see that you are back from the dead/ but it's evident that your rhymes categorize with the norm/ while I'm spittin' so TIGHT I give my own tongue CORNS/ your flows are mediocre tryin' to come at me/ you, Squirrel, and Rob-Bre lyrically coudln't combat me/ it's an unever decision and I'm easily takin' this/ "Straight spittin'/Great Britian" is even more hillarious/ with my lethal responses I swear I'll never choke/ I peeped cha rhymes out, ya ghost is never broke?/ You think you lyrically nice, shit what's that you smoke?/ "Will this guy ever stop?", guess what the answer's nope!!

I have been on line for precisely 5 days, 11 hrs., 34 mins., 27,28,29 secs. and countin'....."YO YO"!! "Noooo, he's leavin'!" "Who, who's leavin'?" THE BEST MOTHAFUCKAS!!~1~

"I never sleep 'cause sleep is the cousin of death"-Nas

1st of all, Hillis, I don't think you were rolling like I was when I read that Ha joint. I'm still laughing as I type this. And look, he ain't even wanna come at you like that dogg. You could tell it hurt him flowing about you, kinda like Nas when he flowed about P from Mobb. Y'all were suppose to be qool. And why is Rob his boy? LOL, man, the whole concept of that rhyme was hilarious. Once again Best, you biting me cause I said all of that about "I Am" on the old board...sike, I'm playing wit ya dogg, I'm playing, lol. On the b- ball talk... ever since I started college, I just had to get used to the fact that they weren't gonna put cable in our rooms. My point being, since then I don't really get to see too many games. We hardly ever got to see the Wizards play and the school is in MD. But since Jordan came back, we at least get to see our home team play. That Ha thing still got me lol-in'. With all that said, I'm saying off the top, I really don't know who the top 5 or 10 are right now because I don't really REALLY start watching until the playoffs; so understand if I say a certain person that isn't doing too good right now. I'm not gonna give it in order, just random. 1. Allen I, come on that man is way better than Kobe from my POV (not just saying that because he went to school in D.C., lol). Take him outta Philly and the sixers are dead. Take Kobe from L.A. and they are still playoff bound. Leave Kobe and take away Shaq, L.A. is still a playoff team. 2. Joradn: The Wizards only won like 19 games last year. Look at them now. We ain't seen the playoffs since 97 or something. And I gotta agree with Hillis, for the most part the rest of them are a bunch of nobodies. But they get my props because at least now they make me wanna watch the game. I still don't know why they drafted cuz from high school, but maybe he is a future star. 3. Okay, I know the whole thread is going to dissagree to the utmost on my favorite player. I'm not saying he's the best, but this is my dogg. Reggie Miller. Just hear me out. I love his outside game. When I step on the court, I'ma shooting guard too (I like to believe I got his outside game and A.I's inside game...minus the great handels) lol yeah I'm dreaming, anyway he is a clutch player. When it's time for the last second shot he wants the ball and he will probably hit it, just like moi. I just found out they traded some of their best peeps so he probably will never get that ring I wanted him to get, but still I like his game. 4. I gotta say Kobe even if I don't really want to. He's got some game so I'll give him his props. Now Shaq, naw. I mean he got a ring or 2 so I'll admit he is doing something right, but I'm not feeling his game. He dunks and fouls and walks; I'm sorry but that's just the truth and that is the gist of his game...well, there is more but that stuff is a major part of what he does. I gotta mention a few others I like, like Gary Payton, Vince, and I was sleepin' on Tracy but he been showing me his skills. Y'all think that dunk was planned, the one he did in the All Star game? Or did he just do it on a whim? On a parting note, they saying that the Tyson fight might give D.C. a black eye. LOL, like we ain't already got about 500 of em'. Hillis, I can't defend Mayor Berry (the one that smoked crack) so I'ma say nothing about him. But at least he's clean now, I think. And since you like bringin' up old movies, tell me, do you remember Sunshine from Harlem Nights? Aw-ight, holla.

Yeah I know that the Best battle is with the dude of the same name, but i'm leaving that until next time, right now i got to deal with this retard boob (damn I meant bob, but dudes up on here know I get speech impediments around dumbasses ARGH!!!) so boob (AAAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!) this one is for you...

I know its freestyle but i'll charge you for trying/smack you so hard that your cousin starts crying/you a part-time prick and a part-time snitch/no need to go to the feds to get rich/point your hands straight up bitch/get your ass out of my throne/i dispanded your crew so you out on your own/no-one told you battle rhymes is my forte?/short-HAY!/hit home from 5000 miles away/heart of the UK/pump poison though the veins/stepped off for a holiday now I take back the reins/the undeniable master, the skill still remains/i'm beatin' you with words like lyrical chains/so DO THE RIGHT THING, cos HE GOT GAME/both Spike Lee but the message is the same/so what you FRAMED ROGER RABBIT?!? I built the whole frame/I post up like Shaq on your point when he's lyrically lame/You love my style fucker, its my fault, I take the blame/you tried to take my style and go running like Michael/but then you stepped to me... well it got suicidal/FINAL!

by 3:16 - "Straight spittin'/Great Britain"

YO YO YO!!!!! SUP!!! How my veterans doing! Hillout (HAHA!) whatup bruv, Qoolout (the only true-out) hows your nephew, Steph, "j- dolo/hello", LOX, Dave R (the originator/nuthin' greater/Dave R started the shit), Hollywood J, and everyone else...

...boob... sit down and shut the hell up man. Whats wrong with you?

MVP... hmmm... Jerry West, NO, Larry Bird, NO, Isiah Thomas, YES... NO, OK then its got to be AI or Kidd. Jordan will get it though in the same way that the Beastie Boys used to win almost all hip hop awards.

Peace

What up, peeps? Welcome back 3:16(what?!!). I like Stone Cold so whenever i refer to your name I have to follow it up wit "what??!!", u know it's all love though. The NWO IS BACK!!! H3K, what up? I'm really feelin your assessment on your Top 5 NBA players. Only thing is that i feel that A.I. is more of an impact on his team than Kobe is on his team. If you're talkin bout pure talent alone, then the nod do go to Kobe, but as far as the season, Kobe does has a dominant big man at his side, whereas A.I has Mutombo,whom as far as i see it, is not the offensive threat he once was(probably could still be if he jacked up more shots,I mean he should, he is 7'2''and there aint that many players taller than him). So u r right when u say that justifies him shootin 40-50 shots a game, but didnt the lakers lose to the Bulls (the same game when Shaq got kicked out for throwin that "jackhammer roundhouse right that missed")? Plus he leads the league in scoring and steals, and that's dominating on both ends of the court. But as far as hunger, there's none that have it more than they do (except for Jordan). And that's why i would rate them tied for 3rd in your list, cuz the rest of your list was on point. What up, Q? Steph, where u at? Best, I'm just dyin for someone to try to go at you. Shout out to Dave R for the illest site on da net.Tyson in D.C.? Now that's ill. I hope Tyson wins. i dont like Lennox nor do i respect him. He was always an overated champion. i mean come on. Oliver McCall? Rahman? Who would want to claim those as milestone wins? But i guess a win is a win. Felix Trinidad will return with a more built up hunger. My opinion? He would break Hopkins in a rematch.